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[kungfusam]

Bioware made the most bland and generic RPG you could possible make and Edge called them on it

[tinfish]

Falklol wrote...

They also gave Modern Warfare 2 a 9/10, so I wont believe anything they say.

They confused games with the scores I think.
MW2 is the 5/10 game.

[JaegerBane]

kungfusam wrote...

Bioware made the most bland and generic RPG you could possible make and Edge called them on it

I shudder at the number of brain cells lost in making this post.

[andybuiadh]

JaegerBane wrote...

kungfusam wrote...

Bioware made the most bland and generic RPG you could possible make and Edge called them on it

I shudder at the number of brain cells lost in making this post.

Can't imagine he had much to start with.

[guru7892]

feroxthegreywarden wrote...
 I'd like to see Bioware get away from the same old game systems and try some more unique stuff in the future.

I feel the same way, honestly I think jade empire was one of the best games they did. However I always feel like they are improving, except with Dragon Age I felt like they really didn't move all the at much forward with the game system. It seemed to rely very much on RPG cliches, and only really shined with spell interactions.

I'm also a little disappointed with the presentation sometimes the story does break character a little bit (my warden sense is tingling? WTF?). I was hoping that they would reinforce the fact that elves are second class, like they should mistake other party members as the leader, and not assume an elf is a leader.

I did like the removal of a morality system in favor of a party apporval system that seemed much better to me than those good/evil axis (however JE's philosophy axis had the best lore attached, I would love to see them mix the two. Characters have two philosophies that you can change and influence in addition to just straight approval)

Sheylan wrote...
So essentialy they graded DA:O like an action adventure game or shooter? Yes... all becomes cle-Wait what?! That makes no sense whatsoever. Actualy, it sounds like a massive cop-out.

well most games don't hinge on story. some people get angry when story gets in the way of their gameplay (or anything for that matter). Most bioware fans tend to read books, (they ran a poll),  the mass market doesn't really read books compared to T.V. or videogames.

I don't think its unreasonable for people to hold gameplay over story in videogames. Story has only started to come to the games industry. initaly classical games like chess, go, and checkers have no story (nobody talks about the story of chess, go or checkers, but they may talk of particular instances).
 
However when you tie a game to a story I think some people just get confused, or get something they don't want. in a way they can get a negative reaction, in the same way people had a negative reaction to MGS4 with its narrative (esp. if its from the stand point of people wanting a coherent narrative ).

is it 'right'? is is a 'massive cop-out'?
its really a matter of philosophy, and edge seems to be taking an extreamist veiw on the side of gameplay. Personally I think the entire philosphy of story vs gameplay is flawed; but my personal veiw on games also finds flaws with Dragon Age. This isnt a discussion on game theory, however, its a ****-fest against Edge... so...

Edge can suck my balls?
(unless Edge is a dude, then their significant other/ sister if of legal age/ mother(if kinda hot) can suck my balls. significant other is out if Edge is homosexual, which I'm sure someone here has noted)

[kungfusam]

I'm not sure if its worth arguing with you deluded fanboys, and childish insults never made for much of an argument anyway

[Periodiko]

kungfusam wrote...

Bioware made the most bland and generic RPG you could possible make and Edge called them on it

You're projecting.

[guru7892]

kungfusam wrote...

I'm not sure if its worth arguing with you deluded fanboys, and childish insults never made for much of an argument anyway

yes the gameplay of DAO is very generic, the story even seems generic at first glance; but once you get into the game's story and setting (esp. if you play an elf) the game becomes much less 'generic' than most RPGs.

it honestly doesn't seem like you played the game that much or at all (did you pay much attention to the dialog) and your comments seem ignorent and unsupported.

If you just toss out negative claims with no reasons or facts. people can't form a counter argument that is more than " you're uninformed and inncorrect".

kungfusam wrote...
Video games aren't really about stories, sure they can add alot, but so can good graphics, sound design ect...

No video game should win a goty because it has a good story, it should be about the game

while this is from another topic it Illustrates your point better. however I want to draw your attention to the fact that story, graphics, sound, can all be detrimental or positive to a game. Also just being generic doesn't particulary make it bad (but it can prevent it from being good) if that was the truth most games would be bad because of generic music.

even if you only judge this game on gameplay it does add an element of 'party appeasment' where your actions inflence your party members and creates differnt bonuses. Thats not very generic. also the game is party based when most contemporary western rpgs are not . The style and abilities are VERY generic but not in a way that detrements the game.

the story itself is also much better than most games, allowing some free roaming and a concrete story. it also has multiple fleshed out characters that really go beyond what most games do. 

honestly 5/10 is really harsh for what DAO is. esp. for PC users (and MW2 is quite bad on the PC so maybe both shouldn get GotY based on technical issues).

Modifié par guru7892, 21 novembre 2009 - 11:04 .

[kungfusam]

I'm not saying the games bad, but its not great either, everything from the story to battle system has been done before

[mdeeRocks]

Hurrrr wrote...

Aerundel wrote...

Pasted from another board:

"Past Edge WRPG scores for reference:

Mass Effect - 7/10
Jade Empire - 7/10
KotOR - 9/10
Baldur's Gate 2 - 8/10
The Witcher - 5/10
Morrowind - 6/10
Oblivion - 8/10
Fallout 3 - 7/10
Diablo - 7/10
Diablo II - 6/10 "

Agree with them all except the witcher which deserved a 2/10 imo.

Same here. All these games were brilliant, except witcher which was ****. Edge deliberately gives low scores to draw attention to themselfs.

[Zenthar Aseth]

kungfusam wrote...

I'm not saying the games bad, but its not great either, everything from the story to battle system has been done before

Add "IMO" somewhere there and it's no problem.. now you're stating it like a fact.

[Spaceweed10]

Raxtoren wrote...

jeeez, haha.
Wtf?!
I mean there is some problem with the console-version but 5/10?
Edge is like the most respected magazing in the business (along Famitsu)

Respected?  Is it f***.

[Spaceweed10]

kungfusam wrote...

Bioware made the most bland and generic RPG you could possible make and Edge called them on it

B/S.

[Twitchmonkey]

jynthor wrote...
I have never even heard of this f*cktard magazine how is it respected? and what the hell is famitsu?

Edge really doesn't really sell that many copies compared to other big name review magazines, but Famitsu likely outsells several of its nearest competitors combined. It's not nearly as big in the US and Europe as it is in Asia though.

[Skellimancer]

spernus wrote...

SurferX0 wrote...

It's a magazine...who cares if they are the biggest fish in a tiny pond the rest of us live in the 21st century and read things on the internet. Their subscriber base is probably insignificant compared to the number of frequent visitors to popular online video game review websites. If their staff and subscribers are more action/FPS fans then there is no way they would like this game anyway.

Edge <3 japanese rpg.

Final fantasy XII: 9/10
Final fantasy X-2: 7/10
Blue dragon: 6/10
Dragonquest VIII: 8/10
Demon's soul: 9/10
Persona 4: 9/10

Weeaboo bastards.

[Leetabix]

*face palm* of course dragon age shouldint get a 9/10 , it isint a first person shooter, look the reson modern warfair and halo get the high rateings isint becuse there any better games , its that they are more accessable , much more people can get into them , there easy to play and so on.



I mean I'd give baulders gate 2 a 7/10 becuse non rpg fans are not gonna play it longer than 5 mins before they get bored and give up.



ratings to any games dont really matter squat , I mean so what if britney spears is top of the charts , does that mean your local indy band you enjoy listening to sucks? , no.



dragon age is a nichie game and as such your going to have to find a reviewer who "gets it"



Dont think I've bought a games magazine since I was about 12 anyway theres enough info on the web for my needs.



and so what if this edge magazine hates the game , its just there opinion.

[Skellimancer]

kungfusam wrote...

Bioware made the most bland and generic RPG you could possible make and Edge called them on it

>implying Bioware RPG's deserve a lower score than a Weeaboo grindin' RPG.
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[PurpleChair]

Edge is one of the most respected gaming magazines... in the UK. If you haven't heard of it, I would guess it's because you don't live in the UK. Or else because you don't read. They're not in the business of exchanging mad bribes for review scores, like a lot of other magazines... people suggesting this clearly just don't know what they're talking about.



I haven't read the review yet, but I know my personal opinion of Dragon Age is basically that it's an interesting game ruined by frustrating, repetitive combat, so 5/10 sounds more or less right to me. But the key thing to remember is that reviews are SUBJECTIVE! It's one person's opinion! The way people talk about these things, it's as review scores are supposed to reflect the prestige of the game or something.

[Skellimancer]

PurpleChair wrote...

Edge is one of the most respected gaming magazines... in the UK. If you haven't heard of it, I would guess it's because you don't live in the UK. Or else because you don't read. They're not in the business of exchanging mad bribes for review scores, like a lot of other magazines... people suggesting this clearly just don't know what they're talking about.

I haven't read the review yet, but I know my personal opinion of Dragon Age is basically that it's an interesting game ruined by frustrating, repetitive combat, so 5/10 sounds more or less right to me. But the key thing to remember is that reviews are SUBJECTIVE! It's one person's opinion! The way people talk about these things, it's as review scores are supposed to reflect the prestige of the game or something.

Stop defending that Magazine.

They prefer a ps2 Dragon Quest over classics like Morrowind and Baldur's Gate.

Its a ****ty weeaboo Magazine.