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[Siven80]

As a male gamer, i found the DA2 "romances" to be terrible.

The male/male romance isnt for me so i just ignore them, and the 2 females are more annoying and not attractive or interesting to romance as characters.

I'm just glad i have DAO and ME1+2 if i want good characters to romance.

Modifié par Siven80, 18 juillet 2011 - 01:52 .

[alex90c]

Don't like any of the DA2 romances. Fenris and Anders are loserish, whiny pricks, Merrill acts stupid, naive and ignorant constantly, and well, you complete Isabela's romance in Act 3 and in banter she's all like "so yeah, uhhh, shagged some more dudes" - only reason hers is my "favourite" is because she's the most normal of the four options thanks to her not having some huge gigantic enormous flaw(s) which just make the others flat out repulsive.

[vania z]

Merrill. The romance could be better, but it was ok that way it was.

[Giltspur]

I like both Merrill and Isabela.  On my first playthrough I I went with Merrill because 1) I had bad girl fatigue while first playing Dragon Age II 2) I liked her stammering, sense of humor, bookishness and arrogance.  Yet overall, I found the Isabela romance more compelling.  I'm not sure what it is.  She's seems to have more warmth as a character during the dialogues. 

I viewed the LI's as "nice" and "a worthy addition" which is short of how I felt about the Morrigan romance which I felt was more compelling the DAO's main plot (the Blight).

[TheJediSaint]

I think both Merrill and Isabella were very well done, though I personally gravitated towards Merrill's romance, particularly through the rivalry path. Merrill is just too endearing when she is angry with Hawke. She is also so obviously self-destructive that she perfectly presses all the buttons of my whiteknight complex. Her rival romance just screams "Save me from myself".

P.S. Sorry for not mentioning Fenris and Anders. They are both good characters but I was never really interested in ah..."playing for their team" so to speak.

Modifié par TheJediSaint, 18 juillet 2011 - 02:40 .

[macrocarl]

Morrigan's LI was the most complicated stressful/ rewarding romance in any game every IMHO but the friendship system they had in place made it so I could never take her out with me because of her always getting mad and that was a huge bummer. That being said, I thought both DA2 romances were really strong and complicated and depending on what type of Hawke you are playing, either Merril's rivalmance of Isabella's friendship romance was super strong. I thought they were both great, especially with the new rivalry/ friendship system!

[JamieCOTC]

Merril for my female Hawke. Her tragic story balanced out the kawaii cute factor. Isabella was too much of a BFF for my femHawke as they are both sarcastic wenches. For my male Hawke, Isabella as he's pretty much a Paladin and I like the contrast.

[LadyJaneGrey]

Hubby is still annoyed he couldn't successfully pursue Aveline. I thought about warning him when I passed by the computer, but what's the point of an RPG if you can't fail?

[HK-90210]

I've played thorugh all the romances(only straight pairings at this point), and I like each of them for their own merits. I can't really pick a favorite, sicne each of my Hawkes is different, and wants something different in a realtionship.

Isabela is my 'main' Hawkes girl, since she requires the least maintence, and she helps him live a little(that particular Hawke is a bit boring Diplomatic personality).

Fenris is my main FemHawke's man and they have a serious conflict ahead of them, her being a mage and all. Still pulled off 100% friendship with him, though. I rule.

Merril is in a rivalmance with my anti-blood magic Hawke. He has no sympathy for blood mages or maleficar, so falling in love with Merril is really conflicting for him.

Anders is with my latest Hawke. She's more of a pro-mage freedom junkie than he is. If she could have had the option, she would have said "It's about time!" when Anders does that...thing...at the end, you know? With the sewage, and the chantry? So they are a bit of an...eccentric...couple.

The only thing that I have not been able to do in my four playthroughs is a Merril friendship, since I find the rivalry so much more interesting. So that might be the only romance path I will never do. Still have to do rivalmances for the other three LIs.

Also, I'm working on a Sebastian run right now. Definately a rivalmance, though. I want there to actually be a chance for hanky-panky when the game ends. The whole chaste-marriage thing was a bit too creepy for my tastes.

Modifié par CastonFolarus, 18 juillet 2011 - 03:14 .

[Kail Ashton]

Out of the 4 i've yet to romance Isabella, she's too friends with benefits, Merril would most likely be my fav, Ander's is pretty much ruined by the finale & Fenris is too emo

While i do have to agree on certin points that not being able to interact with the companions to build the relationship over conversation time in origins rather than actual time in DA2 was a poor choice, Origins gave much more control & choices in how & when i went abvout went about the relationships, i could do the origins ones diffrently almost every play thru (alistair's especialy can be done in countless ways with various results)
DA2 is just heart option,. act 2 sex scene, finale, the most choice you get is rival/friend romance which would be good if it wasn't on a strict schedule & brief, origins was more loose & more varible so do prefer origins romances

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

I enjoyed them a great deal. Isabela is my favorite LI, though I did have some trouble choosing between her and Merrill on my first few runs. That's for for my "canon" f!Hawke. For m!Hawke I went for Anders rivalmance. That didn't end up anywhere pleasant by the end of the game, but it sure was compelling.

[mya11]

For me I don't like romance in dragon age 2, I prefer Alistair is the best for the girls !!!

[Dubya75]

I generally don't care for romance in games.

[TheAwesomologist]

I don't play gay pairings ("Not that there's anything wrong with that") So I have no opinion on Fenris and Anders when it comes to romance.

Out of Merrill and Isabella I liked Merrill more in the end. Both her romance paths are rewarding and the character is very well written and voice acted. There were moments where I found her a bit too childish but those were few and far between enough that it didn't bother me too much beyond noticing them. Her armor change is also the most significant. While some may not like the look, I think it's a wonderful representation of the change in her status and the effect Hawke has on her without having to say too much about. Also the awkward post-coital talk, I've actually had similar situations myself. That felt visceral and real at least to me.

I had a real hard time with Isabella at first. The scene in Act 2 where you go see Anders and Isabella is already there really turned me off. So much so that in my first play through I actively turned down her offer. It wasn't until my third play through that I explored it fully. It is fitting, considering the events in Act 2. I would eventually learn to stomach some of Isabella's grossness (does she really need to keep asking me if I think she needs a bath?) she does have a compelling enough story and her character is well written and voiced.

I would love to have explored an Aveline romance. I don't understand why the one stable woman with a decent head on her shoulders wasn't ever a real LI option.

In the end however none of the females lived up to Morrigan's or even Leliana's romances. While the gift giving system and talking at camp may have come off as clunky to the developers it was rewarding in that it at least felt like I was working towards a relationship. More so than DA2's "just use the heart option" talks. Especially with Morrigan since that was actually hard. In the end the reward was worth it.

About Fenris and Anders real quick: I never liked having either of them in party, let alone at the same time. Mostly because, while they have their reasons if you explore the story, they just aren't fun to be around. I can only take so much sullen moping and brooding. 7 years of it? Screw that. Fenris would at least have some lighter moments which made him bearable to my Mage Hawke. My Warrior and Rogue Hawkes never used him unless absolutely necessary. After my first play through Anders was only ever used for Anders specific missions. I would skip him altogether if wasn't because I hate missing out on experience points.

[Arius23]

bleetman wrote...

Arius23 wrote...

Isabella was too quick to pounce on you, imo.  I felt like I had barely said "hi" and we were doing the horizontal tango.  Now I know that is just her personality, but I think relationships are more exciting, and far more rewarding, if you are forced to work hard to get them.

Isabela doesn't try to get into Hawke's pants with a relationship in mind. If anything, the actual relationship building part of her romance starts after the two of them have slept together. They aren't really 'together' in any real sense of the word until a good long while afterwards.

She's a lot like Zevran in that regard, come to think of it.

That is true and I accept that.  I just hope future relationships will let us pursue a romantic interest with more vigor.  The journey is more fun than the destination, as they say.

catofnine wrote...

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a three year gap between "hi, help me kill some fools" and the horizontal tango?  If so, lady *really* took her time, no?

That is true, however, since the time skips were handled so poorly in the game, I can only gauge the time of our relationship with the number of conversations I have with her.

Modifié par Arius23, 18 juillet 2011 - 05:09 .

[maxernst]

TheAwesomologist wrote...

About Fenris and Anders real quick: I never liked having either of them in party, let alone at the same time. Mostly because, while they have their reasons if you explore the story, they just aren't fun to be around. I can only take so much sullen moping and brooding. 7 years of it? Screw that. Fenris would at least have some lighter moments which made him bearable to my Mage Hawke. My Warrior and Rogue Hawkes never used him unless absolutely necessary. After my first play through Anders was only ever used for Anders specific missions. I would skip him altogether if wasn't because I hate missing out on experience points.

This is so much how I feel about Fenris and Anders.  They're just so bitter and hard to get along with.  I find Merrill's combination of hubris and naivete alarming, so Isabela's the only DA2 romance for me.  I think that (much like Zevran), her sexual talk is a way of fending off real intimacy.  Yes, she's self-centered, but she has a sense of humor, doesn't antagonize everybody around her, and lives in the real world.

So I think the female options in DA2 are better than the male ones, but agree with the OP that in general the romantic options in DA:O were more attractive.  The most likeable companions in DA2 for me were Varric and Aveline, neither of whom you can romance.

[Sanguinerin]

Isabela.

I don't like Anders. I don't care much for Merrill, either. I do love Fenris's voice, but as a lover of mages, I don't like his attitude toward them. It's strange, really. In Origins, I only sparked romances with Alistair, Leliana, and Morrigan. One of these days I hope to have a M/M romance that I actually like.

[TheCharmedOne]

my male hawke loved anders. I really liked their romance. Yeah a lot of people think it was cheesy, but I felt it was a very romantic old school love affair, that I really got into. It was the only romantic option I felt connected to.

[Nerevar-as]

With mHawke I went for Merrill, she´s half naivety and half bloody idiot, but I liked her better. Isabella I can´t take seriously with her design, and I don´t like much the rogue with good heart character.

With fHawke I´m undecided between going for Merrill again or do a no romance run. Anders and Fenris are two "dark dangerous" guys despite their differences, and (excepting Atton Rand for KOTOR II) I don´t like that kind of characters for romances.

[Haexpane]

If the question is - is Aveline ugly and boring and is Isabella a put off? The answer is yes.

[The dead fish]

mya11 wrote...

For me I don't like romance in dragon age 2, I prefer Alistair is the best for the girls !!!

And that's why I will never understand. But, hey, he's my bro , I love him, I can live with.

I would love to have explored an Aveline romance. I don't understand why the one stable woman with a decent head on her shoulders wasn't ever a real LI option.

In the end however none of the females lived up to Morrigan's or even Leliana's romances. While the gift giving system and talking at camp may have come off as clunky to the developers it was rewarding in that it at least felt like I was working towards a relationship. More so than DA2's "just use the heart option" talks. Especially with Morrigan since that was actually hard. In the end the reward was worth it.

Well, that's exactly what I think.

Aveline, is perhaps the least beautiful of all the female companions. But she is the only one  that makes me feel that I have before me a woman. A woman who is worth it like was Leliana and  for the love of god, Morrigan. <3

Well,  also Athenril. And note that she is the only elf charming except Merril lol !!! Petrice too as well. Cassandra ? I don't know. 

I immediately jumped for joy when I saw it the first time. Now I am not impressed anymore and I expect to see more about her.
But if I had to choose between the companions by necessity, I would probably choose Merril thanks to the rivalry path . She looks more mature like that, less as a teenager.

What bothers me is her white armor. She seems a little silly in there. Too innocent, too naive. That's not what I want to see. Bioware didn't even let me choose to give her again her first green garment.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 18 juillet 2011 - 08:01 .

[Harid]

Probably Isabella. I mean, It's not like I'm marrying these ****es, and virgins are terrible in the sack.
Merrill was like a flanderized version of an idiot.  She annoyed me because I couldn't image anyone actually carrying her around anywhere. . .she was simply past the point of naivete to the point that I would seriously question her as being mentally disabled.  And I can't have sex with a mentally disabled person. . .I'd feel like I was taking advantage. . .

That's putting it as bluntly (and from the mindset of my Hawke) as possible, though.

Honestly Aveline was my favored woman in the game, but I am not greedy, you can't always get what you want.  People need to learn this.

Modifié par Harid, 18 juillet 2011 - 08:08 .

[The dead fish]

Harid wrote...
Honestly Aveline was my favored woman in the game, but I am not greedy, you can't always get what you want.  People need to learn this.

Totally agree. I'm not complaining. I speak of Aveline, because compared to what has been done she is the only one that most closely matches a profile that seems to have disappeared in DA2.

I like Isabella as well, but for one night, not as a true LI. Isabella has a lot more the profile of a very intimate friend to me. With whom I have fun and laugh.  But that's all.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 18 juillet 2011 - 08:12 .

[Harid]

Sylvianus wrote...

Harid wrote...
Honestly Aveline was my favored woman in the game, but I am not greedy, you can't always get what you want.  People need to learn this.

Totally agree. I'm not complaining. I speak of Aveline, because compared to what has been done she is the only one that most closely matches a profile that seems to have disappeared in DA2.

I like Isabella as well, but for one night, not as a true LI. Isabella has a lot more the profile of a very intimate friend to me. With whom I have fun and laugh.  But that's all.

Bioware needs to stop treat romances as relationships, though.  They are two entirely different concepts.  Bioware seemingly distills them to 1980's romcoms where you are pretty much common law married after one night of sex and relationships don't work that way.

Honestly, I have really felt Bioware has regresssed since Baldur's Gate 2 in that department.  I don't really expect much out of them anymore to the point that I don't even really participate in this content after one playthrough to see if Bioware has gotten any better.

Truth be told, I would not form a relationship with any of these women, and I'd only probably romance Isabella, so given I generally project my morals onto my character, I treat it the same way.  Thankfully Isabella acts as I expected her to act, but I wish Bioware scripted the romance better to the point that you aren't some kind of pathetic sack of crap trying to convert a "ho into a housewife."  (Pretty sure that is gonna be censored here.)

Edit (It's not!  Proper spelling endures, I guess.  Thanks white people.)

Modifié par Harid, 18 juillet 2011 - 08:21 .