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[Uccio]

As a straight Merril and Isabela were the only options for me. I went with Merril 4/6 times since Isabela was just waaay to ****ty for my taste. Merril´s sweetnes way so overhelming that I had to force myself to choose Isabela in those 2 times. I have a soft spot for sweet girls.

[Melca36]

Husband didn't care for Merril and while he liked Isabela, she got boring so on another playthrough, he did not romance anyone.

He liked Athenril alot and wanted to romance Aveline. LOL:D

He also felt guilty for liking Charade.

Modifié par Melca36, 18 juillet 2011 - 08:30 .

[CoffeeHolic93]

Rivalry Merrill is definitely my favorite. It has the best pacing and character development in my opinion - and I feel like I can make a difference. Fenris romance is my second favorite, though mostly because of his voice actor. Isabellas romance and Anders romance never appealed to me.

[The dead fish]

Harid wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Harid wrote...
Honestly Aveline was my favored woman in the game, but I am not greedy, you can't always get what you want.  People need to learn this.

Totally agree. I'm not complaining. I speak of Aveline, because compared to what has been done she is the only one that most closely matches a profile that seems to have disappeared in DA2.

I like Isabella as well, but for one night, not as a true LI. Isabella has a lot more the profile of a very intimate friend to me. With whom I have fun and laugh.  But that's all.

Bioware needs to stop treat romances as relationships, though.  They are two entirely different concepts.  Bioware seemingly distills them to 1980's romcoms where you are pretty much common law married after one night of sex and relationships don't work that way.

Honestly, I have really felt Bioware has regresssed since Baldur's Gate 2 in that department.  I don't really expect much out of them anymore to the point that I don't even really participate in this content after one playthrough to see if Bioware has gotten any better.

Truth be told, I would not form a relationship with any of these women, and I'd only probably romance Isabella, so given I generally project my morals onto my character, I treat it the same way.  Thankfully Isabella acts as I expected her to act, but I wish Bioware scripted the romance better to the point that you aren't some kind of pathetic sack of crap trying to convert a "ho into a housewife."  (Pretty sure that is gonna be censored here.)

Edit (It's not!  Proper spelling endures, I guess.  Thanks white people.)

I've never played Baldur gate. : /
I can only compare  to Mass Effect and Dao. 

I thought it was good enough. I think DA2 simply lacked depth and a better performance , a good execution. For Isabella, I would preferred to see a deepening of what she really is.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 18 juillet 2011 - 08:46 .

[The dead fish]

Melca36 wrote...

Husband didn't care for Merril and while he liked Isabela, she got boring so on another playthrough, he did not romance anyone.

He liked Athenril alot and wanted to romance Aveline. LOL:D

He also felt guilty for liking Charade.

Well I can understand. She's hot. )
I believe that many share his feelings. Personally, I struggled to believe that Gamlen can produce a girl like that. She must necessarily look like her mother. :happy:

[Cody211282]

Arius23 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Though I do have to give them props for making me sweat bullets durring the "were do we go from here" conversation you get with each of them after the very lousy romance scene.

Sweat bullets?  All you have to do is click the conversation line that has the HUGE heart button on it and BAM, insta-romance. 

Mine turned into one of those "Oh snap I don't really want it to be that type of relationship" moments and in the end it broke the damn game.

[Harid]

Sylvianus wrote...

I've never played Baldur gate. : /
I can only compare  to Mass Effect and Dao. 

I thought it was good enough. I think DA2 simply lacked depth and a better performance , a good execution. For Isabella, I would preferred to see a deepening of what she really is.

Get on the bus, then, so to speak.  You can get both games for under 20 dollars online, or you can do it through steam or gog.  And given their age, most crappy pc's can run it.

I just bought the game off of amazon for 14 bucks.  While I won't act like the game is perfect (AD&D sucks!!!!) because they actively show the passage of time, as well as the fact that actively have to woo the person,  the romances seem to fit more and seem more realistic.  Unless you are a gay gamer, I guess or a woman (yes there are mods, but most modders are hacks when it comes to writing.)  The game was made in the early 2000's, so expecting progressiveness is a fool's errand.

Modifié par Harid, 18 juillet 2011 - 10:19 .

[Harid]

Cody211282 wrote...

Arius23 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Though I do have to give them props for making me sweat bullets durring the "were do we go from here" conversation you get with each of them after the very lousy romance scene.

Sweat bullets?  All you have to do is click the conversation line that has the HUGE heart button on it and BAM, insta-romance. 

Mine turned into one of those "Oh snap I don't really want it to be that type of relationship" moments and in the end it broke the damn game.

That's my problem with these romances. ..you can't draw them out while like not wanting to like marry the person.  People do this all the time in real life, yet I have to act lovey dovey to someone my character may want to just sleep with a couple of times because these things aren't written well enough.

[MonkeyLungs]

Haexpane wrote...

If the question is - is Aveline ugly and boring and is Isabella a put off? The answer is yes.

Aveline is the sexiest female in DA2 because she is loyal, hearty, and doesn't flaunt her sexuality. Yeah she has a jaw on her but her demeanor and the fact that she isn't wildly oversexualized just makes her awesome to me. I know you can't romance her, and I'm actually glad for that. Her loyalty is the sexiest thing about her. Loyalty is a beautiful, rare thing.

[Haexpane]

MonkeyLungs wrote...

Haexpane wrote...

If the question is - is Aveline ugly and boring and is Isabella a put off? The answer is yes.

Aveline is the sexiest female in DA2 because she is loyal, hearty, and doesn't flaunt her sexuality. Yeah she has a jaw on her but her demeanor and the fact that she isn't wildly oversexualized just makes her awesome to me. I know you can't romance her, and I'm actually glad for that. Her loyalty is the sexiest thing about her. Loyalty is a beautiful, rare thing.

Loyalty is not rare, adopt a pet from the SPCA... instant Aveline.

Aveline has the personality of a 7th grade boy.  I don't find that sexy at all.   My cat is very loyal, and I don't want sex from her.   But that is just my taste in video game characters, I applaud you for looking past Aveline's horrid personality and terrible face/hair/clothing/body.

Edith Bunker is far sexierhttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtiHqTn2ijgwSdMjvSSxTcG1zwRXsLa7PutO1_r4NUvSNs-R7n

[Icy Magebane]

I thought they were both very lame... neither appealed to me, and getting with another guy isn't an option at all (for me). No big loss...

For the record though, I would have gone with Aveline over any of the women... she was one of my favorite companions.

[Torax]

I find the rival romance from Merrill interesting compared to the Isabela options. So I tend to go with her's most of the time. There is a point in Act 2 that I still love for how angry she gets. In front of her clan no less. I'll stop there since it's the "no spoilers" forum.

[WilliamShatner]

All the romances are terrible because

a) The romancable characters are all a-holes, or an idiot.
The romances is terribly written, sudden, forced and the dialogue is cringe-inducing.

It's hard to believe these were written by the same people who wrote DA:O.

[Torax]

The romances in Origins aren't exactly more in depth.

Teach the frigid one to maybe feel love for another? Teach the rogue to grow a spine? Yeah those are totally in depth relationships.

ME2 isn't much better in that department. Have a fling with the Frigid Barbie. Have a fling with the skinhead sociopath. Have a fling with the young nice alien that everyone pedo'd over in ME1. Yeah totally in depth. There was Samara who is sort of a kindred spirit for a Paragon Shep but that goes no where. Can say that the relationships from ME1 some how are deeper but even those just felt like flings before heading to certain death. No epic love tales in the bunch. Was that way in games like KotoR to...

[WilliamShatner]

Torax wrote...

The romances in Origins aren't exactly more in depth.

Teach the frigid one to maybe feel love for another? Teach the rogue to grow a spine? Yeah those are totally in depth relationships.

That's a pretty simplistic way of looking at it.  You could say Casablanca is a about a bar owner moping over a girl.  

It's about how well written these things are and DA:O is miles ahead of DA2 in terms of quality writing.

[Torax]

Okay so lets look at Leliana from the barely better written female end. You give her enough gifts and ask her to tell you stories and she'll start to awkwardly compliment you on your hair. Then she plays more coy while you may eventually get her to like you enough to tell you a story about the stars. Then it's her offering to have you warm her tent with her.

Morrigan it's far simpler. Give her gifts. Appease her based on her values as a male and she'll blatantly say how her tent is Cold all alone. Yup so much better written. By design that makes DA2 superior because at least you have the optional to disagree with them. In Origins and most games it's just giving the response that you know they'll like and that means a cut scene of some kind eventually. Basically yes or no scenarios but in no way better written...

Modifié par Torax, 18 juillet 2011 - 11:32 .

[The dead fish]

Torax wrote...
By design that makes DA2 superior because at least you have the optional to disagree with them. In Origins and most games it's just giving the response that you know they'll like and that means a cut scene of some kind eventually. Basically yes or no scenarios but in no way better written...

Okay. I do not want to start a war, but to say that DA2's romances are  better worked than in DAo, is going too far. Go !

1 - The romances in DA2 are performed only by cut-scene very interventionist, with a possibility to choose one or two sentences, and you're done. Unable to leave the cut scene, impossible to master the course. They come, they will not stop or land, as fast as the wind.
 
They ordered the tempo and we have nothing to say. Okay, yeah.

2- Cliiing, The doorbell rang of love, you can get your cut scene of 2 seconds, it said in the newspaper. Hum ! Very bad. Yeah.

If there were a lot, it could compensate, but how in the game? Not much cut-scene throughout the game separated by a long time to do lots of quests.

3-  you either have sex, with the Li you want NOW ( acte 2 ) or NEVER !!!!! Let me choose, thank you. It's roleplaying, stop the **** to decide for me.

4  -  DA2 romances don't allow role-playing. The writers had one path in mind and you have to follow. There is only ONE SENTENCE, that of the HEARTh, that's it. I can't play a bastard darling or a sweet. it's bioware which decide again. the flirt, just the sentence with the heart.

5-  yeah, it's the same, but let's be clear. The icon with the heart, sucks; Uninteresting. I would want  choose my romantic path, take iniative, or let my Li  work to break my heart.

6 - What the hell with the jump in time? Hawk after 7 years still behaves as if started his romance.

7- The fully clothed sex scene? really better ? Not for me.

8 - Let's be serious.  There are many fewer rows in DA2 for romances. We feel that it is fully sloppy. No need to deny the experience of the game is enough. Not even need to count the lines.

Where is the better here ?

Modifié par Sylvianus, 18 juillet 2011 - 11:55 .

[Torax]

Meanwhile in Mass Effect, DAO and even KotoR the romance is just about which companion you talked to the most. The other reason I like DA2's design a little bit is you get about the same amount of conversations with companions that you do without romancing unlike Origins and other games.

Edited to clarify.

Liking how the conversations are written doesn't change some things.

1. I actually do like that my character isn't a manaquin.

2. I'm not running into the "Okay I talked to Morrigan and Leliana 6 times so I better be careful if I talk to the wrong one" kind of feeling.

3. In the end it's relationships of good girl versus bad girl for relationships. Much like Jack and Tali in comparison.

4. I still like that companions can disagree with you while still respecting you. That beats all their other mechanics from Origins bar none.

I just refuse to look at Origins with Rose Colored Glasses. The relationships are more bland and one sided in Origins to me. Not to mention at least they attempt to portray relationships formed over years instead of rolling the hay with Morrigan on the first night in the camp...

Modifié par Torax, 19 juillet 2011 - 12:07 .

[Agamo45]

There were no good choices, I had to choose between the dirty pirate **** who can't keep her legs closed for even one second, and a stupid elf who acts like a 14 year old and practices dark magic. My Hawke ended up with Isabela, though in real life I wouldn't go within 10 ft of her. And frankly, I was offended by the ridiculous extent of homosexuality and how every dude you hang out with besides Varric is flaming gay and has the hots for Hawke.

[xScarecrowX]

I'm a girl gamer, but my characters go for Anders everytime. Don't get me wrong, Fenris is starting to grow on me, but when I love Anders so much it hurts not romancing him. Bioware made him the first character to flirt with you just so you fall for him. And I'm ok with that. By the time the others get a flirt option up, I'm already being a fangirl over Anders!


@Agamo45        Had to say something to your post. Hawke can't help it he/she is sexy and attracts everyone! 

Modifié par xScarecrowX, 19 juillet 2011 - 12:17 .

[Morroian]

bleetman wrote...

Quite happy with them, myself. Merrill and Isabela are both impossible for me to dislike.

This. The only 2 romances I've completed. 

I tried Anders but would up despising him, gave him the flick and redid the character with Merrill. 

[nuclearpengu1nn]

For all the ppl that keeps posting same sex bi romance
I think the OP meant straight male players=]
And yes i felt very limited on my LI choice cuz theres only two
i was looking for an LI that was kinda like Leliana
I really hope we get a new LI on future DLCs or expansions

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Well, I'm straight (ish). Doesn't stop me from experiencing the same sex romances of both genders.

[Alexander1136]

the choices sucked in my opinion. tho i do happen to be the typical male who ends up romancing the bit ****** ****... *shrugs*  kinda wish they had deeper conversations in that regard.. maybe id actually like isebela  if i got to know more about her. honestly i was never into the romance thing until da:o when i started talking to you know who..

merril was cute.. but im not into.. elves or tattos. and well aveline is respectable but man-ish. in Origins though, i always ended up starting a cat fight because i liked to flirt with leliana because it was fun, but i generally just liked morrigan, i could never not like her. everytime i played i would pick her because (i feel like a dork here) i felt a connection w/ morrigan i understood and related to her pov and laughed at all her bitter comebacks, she was a fiery women:wub:. in DA2 i didnt really care .. even when i made a women i ended up picking isebella because shes the only one who isnt crazy to some extent .. other than varic but that would just be gross.

not only were the li interests bad but the brothel ****s were all fugly as well. so i did what any staight male does, i romanced the chick who puts out and has big ******.

edit: isebella is too much of a ****.. but shes the only option really

Modifié par Alexander1136, 20 juillet 2011 - 07:41 .

[Razored1313]

I just decided to forsake the female LI entirely and play femhawke, Merrill was nice but she was too innocent for me, felt like a perv, and Isabela betrays you pretty often or tells you not enough info (night terrors, to catch a thief, Arishok, I also consider no rest for the wicked with Castillon where she would choose the ship) plus the whole STD thing turned me off, and she was ridiculously selfish without even showing affection until the very end