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[rapscallioness]

IsaacShep wrote...

Yeah, that's something I thought when Jennifer teased a twist. Some "I'm your father moment" that will change Shep's perspective of him/herself.

Oh, God, I never even considered that...It would make sense tho. Hero lore in general usually shows the hero w/ some kinda deep connection/relationship w/ wateva dark thing they're fighting.

It would explain better the unusual interest Harbinger seems to have in Shep. I just chalked it up to Shep being a badass, but maybe there is more to it. Gah, maybe the Reapers see in Shep a.....prototype of their own future. A truly svelt organic/machine combo.

[Eranen]

rapscallioness wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Yeah, that's something I thought when Jennifer teased a twist. Some "I'm your father moment" that will change Shep's perspective of him/herself.

Oh, God, I never even considered that...It would make sense tho. Hero lore in general usually shows the hero w/ some kinda deep connection/relationship w/ wateva dark thing they're fighting.


It would explain better the unusual interest Harbinger seems to have in Shep. I just chalked it up to Shep being a badass, but maybe there is more to it. Gah, maybe the Reapers see in Shep a.....prototype of their own future. A truly svelt organic/machine combo.

That... could work. Cliche and oh so desirable.
I want! 

[mione]

The booth was awesome! I got a free copy of Mass Effect Revelation, 3 Omni Blades, Custom Mass Effect 3 Dog Tag, and a Normandy SR-2 prop for my Xbox Avatar.

The combat for ME3 was really fast pace compared to 1-2 and much harder. The enemies don't just stay in one position and shoot at you anymore, there was a couple of times they flanked me and boxed me in. Thank god for Liara and Garrus. I love the new Omni Blade attack too I know I'm going to be spamming it non stop when 3 is out.

^.^; the 3 1/2 hour wait almost killed my legs but it was worth it.

[Soahfreako]

Well that was fun playing the demo and what not.

[Shifty Assassin]

I wasnt at comic con so could anyone tell me what that big announcement casey hudson said was?

[JetsoverEverything]

Shifty Assassin wrote...

I wasnt at comic con so could anyone tell me what that big announcement casey hudson said was?

femshep

[CaptREDKangaroo]

I wasn't there, but saw most of the stuff live, enjoyed it. Even the fan events like the Costume contest, I didn't expect to actually watch the whole bloody thing live. I especially liked the BioWare Writers panel, as an aspiring writer myself, I never considered giving a game development a try until playing BioWare games. Really makes me appreciate BioWare's emphasis on story/writers as part of the process throughout, and what it takes to write for games like these. Inspiring. And they seem like fun guys to be around too.

Modifié par CaptREDKangaroo, 25 juillet 2011 - 06:56 .

[didymos1120]

JetsoverEverything wrote...

Shifty Assassin wrote...

I wasnt at comic con so could anyone tell me what that big announcement casey hudson said was?

femshep

More specifically: there were six designs for Femshep shown that people could vote on.  The winner will be the new default in the character creator, just as Sheploo is the male default, and will be the model seen in the upcoming Femshep trailer.

Modifié par didymos1120, 25 juillet 2011 - 06:59 .

[Shifty Assassin]

ahhh sweet thanks ( Voted for 5 btw)

[Candidate 88766]

rapscallioness wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Yeah, that's something I thought when Jennifer teased a twist. Some "I'm your father moment" that will change Shep's perspective of him/herself.

Oh, God, I never even considered that...It would make sense tho. Hero lore in general usually shows the hero w/ some kinda deep connection/relationship w/ wateva dark thing they're fighting.

It would explain better the unusual interest Harbinger seems to have in Shep. I just chalked it up to Shep being a badass, but maybe there is more to it. Gah, maybe the Reapers see in Shep a.....prototype of their own future. A truly svelt organic/machine combo.

Shepard being remade with Reaper parts during Lazarus could be interesting. He could be indoctrinated in less time than others. Maybe he already has. By wiping out the Reapers he could also cause his own death, assuming Reaper tech fails when the Reapers themselves do.

I was also thinking maybe the Lazarus project is only temporary - that they were only able to bring Shepard back for a short time, and throughout ME3 he starts to get weaker. Not necessarily in skills, but in appearance and manner.

[Pride Demon]

rapscallioness wrote...

Oh, God, I never even considered that...It would make sense tho. Hero lore in general usually shows the hero w/ some kinda deep connection/relationship w/ wateva dark thing they're fighting.

It would explain better the unusual interest Harbinger seems to have in Shep. I just chalked it up to Shep being a badass, but maybe there is more to it. Gah, maybe the Reapers see in Shep a.....prototype of their own future. A truly svelt organic/machine combo.

Possible, the only thing I can say is "PRESERVE SHEPARD'S BODY... IF AT ALL POSSIBLE..."
There obviously has to be something the Reaper want there, the question is what...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Shepard being remade with Reaper parts during Lazarus could be interesting. He could be indoctrinated in less time than others. Maybe he already has. By wiping out the Reapers he could also cause his own death, assuming Reaper tech fails when the Reapers themselves do.

I was also thinking maybe the Lazarus project is only temporary - that they were only able to bring Shepard back for a short time, and throughout ME3 he starts to get weaker. Not necessarily in skills, but in appearance and manner.

Also possible, SB archives specifically say the SB organization should avoid retaliation against Cerberus due to the loss of his/her body untill Shep long term functionality can be proved (one year after the resurrection)...
Well, the time has more or less come... Is Shep still "functional"? We'll have to wait to find out...

[sael_feman]

It's all too easy regarding ME3 to give away too much detail. Demonstrating the levels that were shown may have in hindsight been a good choice, but players may alter their decisions in ME2 playthroughs accordingly.

I re-played ME2 with my ME1 savegame so I could go out of my way to undermine Cerberus, I'm sure not everyone did this however.

[Cossack72]

Hm...maybe Harbinger says "I know you feel this" in combat because of some small piece of Reaper tech in Shepard.

That'd be fun

[Thrombin]

I don't think Jennifer's twist is plot related, I think it's more likely related to her VO experience. Which probably means, and I think this has been hinted at before, Shepard being put through the emotional wringer this time round.

Maybe Shepard has a nervous breakdown or something

[Phaedon]

-Skorpious- wrote...
Such as the Lazarus Project succeeding only because reaper tech was involved. Obvious and cliche, I know, but how else can Bioware explain the impossible task of bringing a corpse back to life in a feasible manner? 

The same way Jules Verne explained how submarines work, by showing some stuff, but hiding everything else. It's science fiction, has it really taken 1+ year for people to realize it?

Modifié par Phaedon, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:49 .

[CroGamer002]

^Yes.


Oh wait, no.
And no, I do not want to link that video from smudy.

Modifié par Mesina2, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:48 .

[-Skorpious-]

Phaedon wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...
Such as the Lazarus Project succeeding only because reaper tech was involved. Obvious and cliche, I know, but how else can Bioware explain the impossible task of bringing a corpse back to life in a feasible manner? 

The same way Jules Verne explained how submarines work, by showing some stuff, but hiding everything else. It's science fiction, has it really taken 1+ year for people to realize it?

Actually, I don't mind if Bioware ever reveals the specifics of the Lazarus Project, as its absense wouldn't hurt my enjoyment of the game/universe.

Anyways, perhaps I could have phrased my original question better, but I meant to convey that Shepard being rebuilt with reaper tech is the most feasible explanation possible given our current understanding of real-life technology. Since the reapers are "machine gods" their tech is expected to be well beyond those of mere organics, so having reaper tech possess extraordinary regenerative abilities is something that all fans could accept without much protest.

Plus, it could also be a contributing factor in ME3's story as well. 

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 25 juillet 2011 - 06:12 .

[Candidate 88766]

Pride Demon wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Shepard being remade with Reaper parts during Lazarus could be interesting. He could be indoctrinated in less time than others. Maybe he already has. By wiping out the Reapers he could also cause his own death, assuming Reaper tech fails when the Reapers themselves do.

I was also thinking maybe the Lazarus project is only temporary - that they were only able to bring Shepard back for a short time, and throughout ME3 he starts to get weaker. Not necessarily in skills, but in appearance and manner.

Also possible, SB archives specifically say the SB organization should avoid retaliation against Cerberus due to the loss of his/her body untill Shep long term functionality can be proved (one year after the resurrection)...
Well, the time has more or less come... Is Shep still "functional"? We'll have to wait to find out...

I'd forgotten about that. Hmm, it seems more likely now that Shep could only be brought back for a short time. It'd make the whole brought back from the dead thing seem a little less, um, cheap (for want of a better word) if it turned out that the best they could do was bring Shep back for a year or two. 

[Bryy_Miller]

rapscallioness wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Yeah, that's something I thought when Jennifer teased a twist. Some "I'm your father moment" that will change Shep's perspective of him/herself.

Oh, God, I never even considered that...It would make sense tho. Hero lore in general usually shows the hero w/ some kinda deep connection/relationship w/ wateva dark thing they're fighting.

This is 90% of the time just bad writing. 

[Icinix]

After careful consideration of the events of comic-con..

.. I have come to the conclusion that March next year cannot come soon enough.

[CaptREDKangaroo]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Yeah, that's something I thought when Jennifer teased a twist. Some "I'm your father moment" that will change Shep's perspective of him/herself.

Oh, God, I never even considered that...It would make sense tho. Hero lore in general usually shows the hero w/ some kinda deep connection/relationship w/ wateva dark thing they're fighting.

This is 90% of the time just bad writing. 

I kind of agree, but really it's 90% of the time back to Greek Poetics and tragedies/drama, and just got seeped into our collective conciousness. Usually it's just done in a cliche and bad writing way.

Honestly, I bet it's something small and we're over analyzing what she said with our imaginations.

Modifié par CaptREDKangaroo, 25 juillet 2011 - 09:16 .

[sael_feman]

Phaedon wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...
Such as the Lazarus Project succeeding only because reaper tech was involved. Obvious and cliche, I know, but how else can Bioware explain the impossible task of bringing a corpse back to life in a feasible manner? 

The same way Jules Verne explained how submarines work, by showing some stuff, but hiding everything else. It's science fiction, has it really taken 1+ year for people to realize it?

This may well be true, perhaps TIM did use reaper/ prothean technology to resurrect Shepherd, and perhaps TIM will hold some sway over Shepherd's wellbeing in ME3. But I'm sure Bioware won't be so obvious as to choose these very scenarios.
- I want to know how TIM was influenced by the reapers, when it happened and how his views have changed. Why does he now (ME3) think attacking Shepherd will stop the reapers? If TIM wanted humanity to survive he would grudgingly allow Shepherd to defend humanity, and then quietly assassinate him afterwards.

[Thrombin]

Why do we need Reaper technology to explain Lazarus? If technology can explain Lazarus why can't it come from the standard Galactic level of technology? It's hugely advanced from our own and there are many alien races with who knows what medical techniques at their disposal. I don't get why it has to be Reaper tech at all?

[sael_feman]

Thrombin wrote...

Why do we need Reaper technology to explain Lazarus? If technology can explain Lazarus why can't it come from the standard Galactic level of technology? It's hugely advanced from our own and there are many alien races with who knows what medical techniques at their disposal. I don't get why it has to be Reaper tech at all?

It may well not be, I'm of two minds about this; it if was it would add a twist to the story, if it wasn't it might mean TIM has less control over Shepherd than he otherwise would.

Think through the consequences if Shepherd is somewhat under the TIM's control. If TIM could click a switch and set in motion a process that would kill Shepherd from the cellular level up in say 72 hours, how might that effect the story?

It would be nice if Shepherd were totally out of the control of TIM, no biological tracking devices, no biological kill switch etc. We'll see in 223 days time.

[CaptREDKangaroo]

sael_feman wrote...

Thrombin wrote...

Why do we need Reaper technology to explain Lazarus? If technology can explain Lazarus why can't it come from the standard Galactic level of technology? It's hugely advanced from our own and there are many alien races with who knows what medical techniques at their disposal. I don't get why it has to be Reaper tech at all?

It may well not be, I'm of two minds about this; it if was it would add a twist to the story, if it wasn't it might mean TIM has less control over Shepherd than he otherwise would.

Think through the consequences if Shepherd is somewhat under the TIM's control. If TIM could click a switch and set in motion a process that would kill Shepherd from the cellular level up in say 72 hours, how might that effect the story?

It would be nice if Shepherd were totally out of the control of TIM, no biological tracking devices, no biological kill switch etc. We'll see in 223 days time.

Doesn't this negate the whole point of TIM wanting Shep to be exactly as he were before he died, unchanged? Miranda reccomended a control chip to implant in him... why wouldn't he just do that then and not say no? So suddenly he secretly did - why not force him then to keep the base if you choose the paragon choice - it just defeats the whole setup in ME2 and other reasons why wouldn't he utilize some control if he could have in ME2 the whole time? I just think any sudden control in ME3 doesn't make as much sense to me. Seriously, I think there's no Reaper tech in shep at all or any of that. At best I can see Shep is dying, the lazerus project wasn't finished remember, so maybe that becomes a result.

And I think TIM hasn't sided with the reapers and is the new Saren - maybe, but been clear Cerebus or parts of it have been indoctrinated. I hope TIM isn't... but he has a "larger" role I thought was said in ME3 so be interesting to see what he's up to.

Modifié par CaptREDKangaroo, 26 juillet 2011 - 02:39 .