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Lmao "Guitar Riffs" Really saren4sympathy?

I think someone should go beat ME1 again and listen to the credits.

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javierabegazo wrote...

Lmao "Guitar Riffs" Really saren4sympathy?

I think someone should go beat ME1 again and listen to the credits.


dude you obviously dont know what a guitar riff sounds like. have you played COD only idiots play COD so you must have played COD. listen to the beginning of the macth music THAT is a guitar rift. ME1 credit music was TOO awesome to have guitar riffs in it!!!11!!

/sarcasm 

Modifié par blind black, 20 juillet 2011 - 02:12 .


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Faust1979 wrote...

You could wait for the game to be released before deciding what characters you like or don't like


I played Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2...I had conversations in depth with every squad member and there are some I like and don't care for.

In the third game of a trilogy, introducing a new character that will prohibit another squadmate from being on your team is immersion breaking and there is no emotional weight.

What if Han Solo or Chewy were replaced in Return of the Jedi for someone new? How would that have gone?

Modifié par javierabegazo, 20 juillet 2011 - 02:22 .


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OP......


All of this because you don't like a single character you know absolutely nothing about? What is your REAL motivation for the James Vega hate? I just don't buy the whole "newcomers" argument. It just doesn't make much sense, no matter which way you try to draw it. Seems more like a smokescreen to me.

If the rumors about him are to be believed, it's obvious why a large number of guys hate him. I wonder.....did you argue against doubling the size of the team from ME1 to ME2? Probably not. But James, all by himself is just too much of a distraction, too much of a resource hog?

Come on!

Modifié par cljqnsnyc, 20 juillet 2011 - 02:24 .


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fivefingaslap18 wrote...

*anything you say*


i agree.

maybe obsidian should have taken over with ME2, so bioware could reboot its company with a different game.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 20 juillet 2011 - 02:23 .


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javierabegazo wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

You could wait for the game to be released before deciding what characters you like or don't like


I played Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2...I had conversations in depth with every squad member and there are some I like and don't care for.

In the third game of a trilogy, introducing a new character that will prohibit another squadmate from being on your team is immersion breaking and there is no emotional weight.

What if Han Solo or Chewy were replaced in Return of the Jedi for someone new? How would that have gone?


You're acting as if we're not going to see the VS at all, and that James Vega is replacing Garrus.


Er, what?

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this is mass effect.

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Modifié par javierabegazo, 20 juillet 2011 - 02:27 .


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It's standard practice for every chapter of any series of media products to introduce new characters. Good grief, I don't remember people complaining in ME2 that most of the squad was new instead of ME1 copy pastes.

My personal view is, if the entire party in ME3 was comprised only of ME and ME2 characters, I would likely find the whole thing to be incredibly boring. I already know those characters, their histories, most of their secrets, what they're like in bed, etc. One of the most exciting things about a new Bioware game (be it a sequel or new IP) is the prospect of new characters. So I'm looking forward to Vega being in the game. None of that has anything to do with the fact that he's supposed to represent a 'new' player's perspective either.

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I don't mind if they want to gain new customer by adding a space douchebag. I only ask an option to throw him out of the airlock and go back and grab Grunt or Samara, or Miranda, or any characters.

I don't want this on my ship!
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And I mean it, I'll take Conrad Verner at any time rather than this douche.

Modifié par MajorStranger, 20 juillet 2011 - 02:25 .


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javierabegazo wrote...

Lmao "Guitar Riffs" Really saren4sympathy?

I think someone should go beat ME1 again and listen to the credits.


You're right. Although I believe it also had an electronica feel to it.

I should have specified metal. Trust me, I love metal, but not in ME.

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Valentia X wrote...

So BioWare should cater to you instead?


Yes.

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sympathy4saren wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Lmao "Guitar Riffs" Really saren4sympathy?

I think someone should go beat ME1 again and listen to the credits.


You're right. Although I believe it also had an electronica feel to it.

I should have specified metal. Trust me, I love metal, but not in ME.


Where's this hardcore hair metal you're hearing because that's one ME3 video I must have missed.

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javierabegazo wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

You could wait for the game to be released before deciding what characters you like or don't like


I played Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2...I had conversations in depth with every squad member and there are some I like and don't care for.

In the third game of a trilogy, introducing a new character that will prohibit another squadmate from being on your team is immersion breaking and there is no emotional weight.

What if Han Solo or Chewy were replaced in Return of the Jedi for someone new? How would that have gone?


You're acting as if we're not going to see the VS at all, and that James Vega is replacing Garrus.


Er, what?


He didn´t say that, he is making an assumption of what would happen if Vega replaced Garrus.

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this is killing me D: mabye you'll like him people D: D: D:

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I wonder why some people seem threatened by Vega? Hmmm.....


If Vega was a big, busty blonde instead, would she meet with such reprisals? ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, UNDENIABLY NOT! These same people complaining would be singing her praises, no matter what kind of personality she had.

Modifié par cljqnsnyc, 20 juillet 2011 - 02:31 .


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mauro2222 wrote...

He didn´t say that, he is making an assumption of what would happen if Vega replaced Garrus.


And you don't think that assumption is well, baseless? Garrus already has his own vidoc of his appearance in ME3. Vega's not replacing him.

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MajorStranger wrote...

I don't mind if they want to gain new customer by adding a space douchebag. I only ask an option to throw him out of the airlock and go back and grab Grunt or Samara, or Miranda, or any characters.

I don't want this on my ship!
Image IPB

And I mean it, I'll take Conrad Verner at any time rather than this douche.


You've just single handedly ruined any chance of me ever liking vega with that image.. I hope you feel happy now. 

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javierabegazo wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

You could wait for the game to be released before deciding what characters you like or don't like


I played Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2...I had conversations in depth with every squad member and there are some I like and don't care for.

In the third game of a trilogy, introducing a new character that will prohibit another squadmate from being on your team is immersion breaking and there is no emotional weight.

What if Han Solo or Chewy were replaced in Return of the Jedi for someone new? How would that have gone?


You're acting as if we're not going to see the VS at all, and that James Vega is replacing Garrus.


Er, what?


How is Garrus more important to the story than other squadmates other than the fact he is the most popular squadmate among fellow fans?

I like the "shoot Vega out the airlock" idea. With all the variables being promised, surely choosing squadmates can be accomplished.

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javierabegazo wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

He didn´t say that, he is making an assumption of what would happen if Vega replaced Garrus.


And you don't think that assumption is well, baseless? Garrus already has his own vidoc of his appearance in ME3. Vega's not replacing him.


This. JV isn't replacing anyone, he's there for the newbs. I say let them have him. But I have heard some squaddies are optional and some appear in only certain mssions. Maybe JV will be optional, that way return players may be able to take an old squaddie with them in his place. That's what I'm hoping for at least.

Modifié par Ghost Lightning, 20 juillet 2011 - 02:32 .


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javierabegazo wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

He didn´t say that, he is making an assumption of what would happen if Vega replaced Garrus.


And you don't think that assumption is well, baseless? Garrus already has his own vidoc of his appearance in ME3. Vega's not replacing him.


Can you stop putting words in my mouth. I didn´t say that either.

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I fully intend to screw with Bioware's metrics for this Vega character. I'm never going to talk to him, never take him on missions, and never do any personal missions related to him, if there are any. The only way I'll use him is if I'm forced to, and the only time I'll converse with him is if he initiates it. In which case I'll end the conversation as soon as possible. If it's possible to get him killed, I'll do it every time. 

Bioware don't really pay attention to what people say on the BSN. They do use metrics to see how people play their games though if you leave the option to send anonymous gameplay statistics back home enabled. So I'll just do my part to rig that data.

Modifié par marshalleck, 20 juillet 2011 - 02:36 .


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javierabegazo wrote...

sympathy4saren wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Lmao "Guitar Riffs" Really saren4sympathy?

I think someone should go beat ME1 again and listen to the credits.


You're right. Although I believe it also had an electronica feel to it.

I should have specified metal. Trust me, I love metal, but not in ME.


Where's this hardcore hair metal you're hearing because that's one ME3 video I must have missed.


Lol.

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cljqnsnyc wrote...

I wonder why some people seem threatened by Vega? Hmmm.....


If Vega was a big, busty blonde instead, would she meet with such reprisals? ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, UNDENIABLY NOT! These same people complaining would be singing her praises, no matter what kind of personality she had.

To some people, he's obviously a 'competition' to their mSheps. Others think his looks equals his personality. Well, if that was the case, Miranda should be a stupid bimbo with absolutely no depth at all.

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javierabegazo wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

You could wait for the game to be released before deciding what characters you like or don't like


I played Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2...I had conversations in depth with every squad member and there are some I like and don't care for.

In the third game of a trilogy, introducing a new character that will prohibit another squadmate from being on your team is immersion breaking and there is no emotional weight.

What if Han Solo or Chewy were replaced in Return of the Jedi for someone new? How would that have gone?


You're acting as if we're not going to see the VS at all, and that James Vega is replacing Garrus.


Er, what?


James Vega is replacing Garrus!  What?  :(


:D