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Ghost Lightning wrote...
didymos1120 wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
What's wrong with the codex as a means to get new players up to speed?
Based on the BSN, I'd say it's the fact that hardly anyone ever seems to read it.
Why not have another comic like they did for PS3 people?
Les_Carver wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Vega already comes off as being worse of a character than Jacob due to that.
Hahaha
Condemning a character without knowing him first... And just because he's not familiar with space politics.
That's a new one.
/sarcasm
CaptREDKangaroo wrote...
I don't know first nobody knows what exactly getting new players up to speed means or how they'll do it - I really think it's being overdramatized in this thread. The Devs can balance making it open to new players, who there WILL be - and hopefully want to play the previous ones... and not making that annoying to the majority who have played ME1 and ME2 (or at least ME2). I don't think we'll be beat over the head with stuff.
Modifié par slimgrin, 20 juillet 2011 - 03:47 .
slimgrin wrote...
Well, actually Bioware doesn't hate literacy, at least not in ME1 and DA:O they didn't. There was a ton of reading in those games.
marshalleck wrote...
Reading is too hard. Bioware hate literacy.slimgrin wrote...
What's wrong with the codex as a means to get new players up to speed?
Also, the guy who wrote most of Mass Effect's codex quit the company, so lol.
Ask Bioware. They're the ones who keep pointing out that Vega is for noobs, as though it's a good thing.Rogue Unit wrote...
Can someone explain to me how Vega is "for" new players? I'm sorry but I don't get how he is tailored only for new players. He's a new character in the series, just like Samara, Thane, Grunt and Legion were a year ago.
Rogue Unit wrote...
Can someone explain to me how Vega is "for" new players? I'm sorry but I don't get how he is tailored only for new players. He's a new character in the series, just like Samara, Thane, Grunt and Legion were a year ago.
Modifié par PrinceLionheart, 20 juillet 2011 - 03:56 .
marshalleck wrote...
Like a boss. To the max.HiddenKING wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
Here's why not:
Flying Garrus
BADASS
PrinceLionheart wrote...
Rogue Unit wrote...
Can someone explain to me how Vega is "for" new players? I'm sorry but I don't get how he is tailored only for new players. He's a new character in the series, just like Samara, Thane, Grunt and Legion were a year ago.
Essentially, James Vega is suppose to be "The Watson" of Mass Effect. That means he'll have the important plot details explained to him to catch any new players up on the plot. Of course, everyone $*%#@ing about this is grasping at straws since Bioware games have always had characters like Watsons and Exposition Characters to explain the plot, so this is nothing new at all. Hell, Jacob and Miranda's memory test at the start of ME2 served the same exact purpose.
Modifié par Rogue Unit, 20 juillet 2011 - 03:58 .
marshalleck wrote...
Reading is too hard. Bioware hate literacy.slimgrin wrote...
What's wrong with the codex as a means to get new players up to speed?
Also, the guy who wrote most of Mass Effect's codex quit the company, so lol.
Rogue Unit wrote...
PrinceLionheart wrote...
Rogue Unit wrote...
Can someone explain to me how Vega is "for" new players? I'm sorry but I don't get how he is tailored only for new players. He's a new character in the series, just like Samara, Thane, Grunt and Legion were a year ago.
Essentially, James Vega is suppose to be "The Watson" of Mass Effect. That means he'll have the important plot details explained to him to catch any new players up on the plot. Of course, everyone $*%#@ing about this is grasping at straws since Bioware games have always had characters like Watsons and Exposition Characters to explain the plot, so this is nothing new at all. Hell, Jacob and Miranda's memory test at the start of ME2 served the same exact purpose.
I don't see how that stops him from being an interesting character that returning fans will enjoy, but I suppose I should be used to these kind of reactions on BSN.
Thanks for the explaination.
Rogue Unit wrote...
...I suppose I should be used to these kind of reactions on BSN.
Guns wrote...
If people want to get into the series and know whats going on they should play the first two games. You shouldn't waste time and resources on an intro for new players or a character like James Vega. You don't go to a movie sequel and expect to understand it without seeing the first one. Video games should be no different especially ones focused and driven on story.
Your... your kidding... right? 
Modifié par SpiderFan1217, 20 juillet 2011 - 04:05 .
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Guns wrote...
If people want to get into the series and know whats going on they should play the first two games. You shouldn't waste time and resources on an intro for new players or a character like James Vega. You don't go to a movie sequel and expect to understand it without seeing the first one. Video games should be no different especially ones focused and driven on story.
KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...
I have no idea how they get away with saying that they are "Making it more accessible" when they actualy mean, Dumbed down.
Modifié par marshalleck, 20 juillet 2011 - 04:46 .
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marshalleck wrote...
KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...
I have no idea how they get away with saying that they are "Making it more accessible" when they actualy mean, Dumbed down.
They aren't getting away with anything. Developers are the only ones who believe their own BS about "streamlining."
Look at any game preview in any genre where developers start talking about streamlining, as though it's a good thing. The comments from gamers will almost unanimously be recoiling in disgust, because everyone knows "streamlining" is a euphemism for dumbing **** down to the most base, simple element.
What they're really trying to do here is make the game appeal to the CoD/Gears/Killzone crowd they've been thus unsuccessfully trying to lure. Which is why Vega is a big dumb meathead that looks like Soap McTavish, or whatever his name is.
There's only one way Bioware are going to rope in the audience they actually want, and be rid of their bothersome former RPG fanbase, but I can't mention it because I promised Javierabegazo that I'd stop harping on that topic.
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marshalleck wrote...
KaidanWilliamsShepard wrote...
I have no idea how they get away with saying that they are "Making it more accessible" when they actualy mean, Dumbed down.
They aren't getting away with anything. Developers are the only ones who believe their own BS about "streamlining."
Look at any game preview in any genre where developers start talking about streamlining, as though it's a good thing. The comments from gamers will almost unanimously be recoiling in disgust, because everyone knows "streamlining" is a euphemism for dumbing **** down to the most base, simple element.
What they're really trying to do here is make the game appeal to the CoD/Gears/Killzone/etc crowd they've been thus unsuccessfully trying to lure. Which is why Vega is a big dumb meathead that looks like Soap McTavish (or whatever his name is) decked out in Gears armor.
There's only one way Bioware are going to rope in the audience they actually want, and be rid of their bothersome former RPG fanbase, but I can't mention it because I promised Javierabegazo that I'd stop harping on that topic.
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