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Why are threads not wanting S/S romance labeled as trolls?


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#101
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FoxHound109 wrote...
...different races, different religious creeds, different ethnicities...

*Cough*


Not comparable, especially if pre-established characters are suddenly deciding they're bisexual.

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Why not be honest and say then: "don't want - don't play buy"???


That's a perfectly valid response from people who seriously do see it as morally reprehensible. 

But from Bioware's perspective I wouldn't be troubled if a few thousand people decide to boycott the game because of, at most, two or three lines of dialogue and a cutscene. If they're that worked up to avoid a good game over something so tiny, they probably deserve to be deprived of the experience, 

I'd be counting the money that rolls in when the other 99% of the population who don't have a problem with it realise that the series is a damn good third-person-shooter RPG with great character interaction, and buy it. 

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ElitePinecone wrote...
they probably deserve to be deprived of the experience, 


Well I might argue you don't deserve S/S romance options but then you would whine about me being a homophobe.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Liberals are offended and angered by contrary opinions.

Really just the Liberals?:whistle:

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This thread isn't doing so well.

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S.A.K wrote...

This thread isn't doing so well.

I like it so far.=]

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I just hope Vega isn't the only "gay" squadmate in the game because he would be creepy I can see it now Vega creeps in to Sheperds room at night with his pants around his ankles! JK.

I don't care really I mean all the LI in ME1 were originally Bi, they have the deleted scenes on youtube... "not that I would know."

In addition, nobody but fox news cared that there was a lesbian sex scene with Liara and before you try an tell that's somehow different because she's an alien with no EARS, mature some and realize she's not a man and if I'm wrong I'm deleting all 21 of my ME characters :/

Modifié par AgentWhite1416, 19 juillet 2011 - 08:45 .


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Ok. That's it. D: What the freak does s/s mean??....T_T"

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#109
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same sex.

#110
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same sex

#111
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jshadow wrote...

House_Hlaalu wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

 Because the S/S crowd are afraid. I could care less. I support s/s as long as they dont touch certain characters.

*cough*Garrus!*cough*


In future Biogames other than ME3, all romanceable characters will be bisexual, like Dragon Age 2. Soon there won't be any straight people.


except the non romancable chars


Im sorry. I meant no straight romancable characters.

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ninja'd

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Ah, thanks. :3 ..It normally means short sleeved... just fyi. Thats why I was like WTF?

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Ryzaki wrote...

House_Hlaalu wrote...

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House_Hlaalu wrote...

There may have been trolls in the thread, but it wasn't a troll thread, and yet he refers to it as such, simply because the OP does not agree with S/S romance. I wouldn't have a problem with this if there wasn't such a blatant Bias by not locking the S/S threads as "troll threads".


No, that was definitely a troll thread to begin with. Saying that is was impossible for Vega to be gay because of his profession, saying that all gay dialogue should be stripped from the game because "seriously who wants to hear about that"? Yeah. Troll.

Pretty much any thread that starts with "I don't hate gays but" is going to be a troll thread.


He may not have gone about it in the right way, but he certainly wasn't a troll, his (percieved) intention was to voice his opinion, not to purposely annoy people.


If my opinion was "all women are sl*ts." that's trolling. I can claim it's my opinion until the cows come home. That doesn't stop it from being trolling. (correction: If I posted this on a message board. If I merely thought this then it's just a opinon. (Not even gonna get in the opinions can be wrong can of worms.) 


He never said anything along the lines of that, his post was a request for an option. No trolling there.

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S.A.K wrote...

This thread isn't doing so well.


I think it's going quite well so far, no hate speech, spam or innapropriate photos. So don't try to derail it.

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House_Hlaalu wrote...
He never said anything along the lines of that, his post was a request for an option. No trolling there.


Let me bold the trolling bits. 

Well recently i found out their is going to be a same sex romance in the upcoming ME3 and at first i didnt really care but when i started to think about it the only real option would be for Vega, the new alaince marine to join your squad, be the new gay squadmate.

Now this isnt a gay bashing thread so any hateful people please refraim from posting, but seriously bioware what are you thinking? first of all their arent to many gays in the military their are even less in the Marine, and Second it would be even more impossible for their to be a homosexual in the infantry ecspecially as some one as experienced as Vega is made out to be.
Sooooo I beleive it necessary that bioware make an option that would strip out all gay dialog and romance from the game because seriously who wants to hear about Vega's feelings? all i want to hear from him is how much he loves killing some ugly aliens


Yeah. It's even more impossible for homosexuals to be experienced infantry men. That's not insulting at all right? <_< I mean the bolded is totally not trolling! Nope. Gay men can't be experienced soldiers! Just women can't be sl*ts! ;) Oh I'll give you a few exceptions but they're so rare it's impossible to show them in game!

Modifié par Ryzaki, 19 juillet 2011 - 08:57 .


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AgentWhite1416 wrote...

I just hope Vega isn't the only "gay" squadmate in the game because he would be creepy I can see it now Vega creeps in to Sheperds room at night with his pants around his ankles! JK.

I don't care really I mean all the LI in ME1 were originally Bi, they have the deleted scenes on you... "not that I would know."

In addition, nobody but fox news cared that there was a lesbian sex scene with Liara and before you try an tell that's somehow different because she's an alien with no EARS, mature some and realize she's not a man and if I'm wrong I'm deleting all 21 of my ME characters :/

I'm pretty sure Asari are monogender and I imagine, before contact with duogender races, they probably had no concept of gender beyond flora and animals. Mother and father roles seemed to be present though, or it could be something that is unable to be rendered through universal translation and is instead manifested to other races as conventional mother/father roles. Of course what I'm saying is most likely refined bollocks.

And S/S stands for same-sex I imagine.

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Arxduke wrote...

Ah, thanks. :3 ..It normally means short sleeved... just fyi. Thats why I was like WTF?


HA! I guess it would be pretty funny reading the thread and replacing same sex with short sleeved. (now i bet someones gonna create a group called "Fight for the sleeveless - support the short sleeved people")

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Saphra Deden wrote...

People are offended and angered by contrary opinions.

Fixed.
Generalization is fun ya'll!

Modifié par Neesee, 19 juillet 2011 - 08:56 .


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House_Hlaalu wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

This thread isn't doing so well.


I think it's going quite well so far, no hate speech, spam or innapropriate photos. So don't try to derail it.

Don't worry about that. I don't want S/S romance anyway.

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JPanzerj wrote...
I'm pretty sure Asari are monogender and I imagine, before contact with duogender races, they probably had no concept of gender beyond flora and animals. Mother and father roles seemed to be present though, or it could be something that is unable to be rendered through universal translation and is instead manifested to other races as conventional mother/father roles. Of course what I'm saying is most likely refined bollocks.

And S/S stands for same-sex I imagine.



I always thought asari were Asexual (Not self reproduction) as in they date over Character and Personality, and with them being an alien race probablly have a different way of impregnating another person.
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#122
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The codex takes great care to say the Asari are NOT asexual and are an all female race.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

a few thousand people 

And I think it might be just a little more than that. And definitely more than those who would not buy this good game if it wasn't including s/s content. Net loss.

But I suppose neither of us works at Bioware's marketing department, so this discussion should assume there is just one pro-s/s consumer and one anti-s/s consumer, and be about "should BioWare treat them both as equals, or discriminate against one of them"?

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I didn't mean they're all female I just was trying to say they have the same anatomy human females. Minus ears.

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Ryzaki wrote...

House_Hlaalu wrote...
He never said anything along the lines of that, his post was a request for an option. No trolling there.


Let me bold the trolling bits. 

Well recently i found out their is going to be a same sex romance in the upcoming ME3 and at first i didnt really care but when i started to think about it the only real option would be for Vega, the new alaince marine to join your squad, be the new gay squadmate.
  ^hows that trolling?
Now this isnt a gay bashing thread so any hateful people please refraim from posting, but seriously bioware what are you thinking? first of all their arent to many gays in the military their are even less in the Marine, and Second it would be even more impossible for their to be a homosexual in the infantry ecspecially as some one as experienced as Vega is made out to be.                    ^ not trolling, i will PM you.
Sooooo I beleive it necessary that bioware make an option that would strip out all gay dialog and romance from the game because seriously who wants to hear about Vega's feelings? all i want to hear from him is how much he loves killing some ugly aliens


*snip*


I edited in my words.

Modifié par House_Hlaalu, 19 juillet 2011 - 09:03 .