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[mykeme]

Basically, sub. Tell me what you think and why you think so. What is it about romance in video games that attracts you, how graphic do you think the romances should be (fade to black or ME1-style cutscenes?), and would you buy a Bioware game - ME3, for example - if it had NO romance option and this was officially announced? Would you consider a game "dark and mature" if it had all the necessary layers of depth, art direction, but absolutely no romance option?

Those are just suggestions to get your mind going. Anything on the subject, in this thread. Go!

[GodWood]

Dragon Age: Awakening

[Cuddlezarro]

they tried this with awakening and boy did they get a metric ton of flak for it

and if bioware had no romances in it? yes id still buy it but it would mean I wouldent get any lulz from the normally incredibly cheesy romance scenes (and even then I went through both ME games without romancing any one on my "canon" shepard and only did it with other sheps to get the acheivement)

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 19 juillet 2011 - 08:14 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

As long the game itself seems promising, I'll buy it, romance scenes or not.

[Ryzaki]

^that.

The game will need to have epic friendships though. No romance shouldn't mean ****** poor character interaction.

[mya11]

The romance it's just an option of the game.

[ElitePinecone]

Good thread topic.

I'm conflicted, on the one hand I think a romance adds wonderfully to the 'epic narrative' that so many Bioware games are based upon (hero starts as a minor character, builds a team, meets their one true love, vanquishes evil and either dies tragically or lives happily ever after), but on the other they can so often just be absurd and juvenile exercises with very little depth.

I think a game without romance could work well (it'd free up a lot of resources for other characterisation) but at the same time I'd much prefer if they, say, doubled the budget for love interest conversations and actually made the romance paths feel realistic and enduring.

It's probably not a necessary element to the Bioware formula, but it *is* something that they're increasingly known for and I think it's been getting better and more artfully constructed as time goes on.

[Inquisitor Recon]

At this point, I'd be perfectly fine with it.

[GodWood]

mykeme wrote...
What is it about romance in video games that attracts you

Further roleplaying oportunities, added emotional depth, another layer to the PC etc. 

how graphic do you think the romances should be (fade to black or ME1-style cutscenes?),

I honestly see no reason why they shouldn't just be full penetration.
I'm an adult. I know what's going on. So why hide it from me? 

and would you buy a Bioware game - ME3, for example - if it had NO romance option and this was officially announced?

I buy other games without romance options so yes.

[Dandynermite]

It's one of Bioware's biggest sell points, and it's becoming the norm in video games now, why wouldn't they have it, I mean even Elder Scrolls have jumped on the bandwagon and added romance to Skyrim... I mean I play CoD and such, and don't expect a romance in that, but it is a role you can fufill in a role playing game, it's one of the big things missing in Awakening, as for how much you can see, ME2 was awful they just lying with each other, see more...

[frostajulie]

I am a pretty casual gamer but I am addicted to bioware games mainly because of the romance and character driven story. A game without a romance may be good but it would just be another one of many. The immersion is really good in bioware games because the PC is human with human ties that bind them to other characters its awesome.

I want a game where they take it further I want a LI to play all nice and then have a huge betrayal and then go out for blood randomize which character betrays you in different playthrus and THAT would be ultimate immersion. But no without the romance Bioware is just another game making company. Its the character interaction and the very wemotional aspect of the PC that makes the game so unique and the play experience so immersive and enchanting

[shepskisaac]

If there's no romances at all I ain't gonna complain, it's just not a part of the story in that case. They doesn't have to be in all games. (However, if there are straight and lesbian romances available for the same character but no gay ones for no reason, Imma complain hella lot).

As for how graphic? If it's an M rated game stop with the dry humping in suits nonsense. If sex already is a part of the story, then well, make it so. We don't need boobs, penises and vaginas to be shown all over the screen, but when they're trying too hard to hide every inch of skin, it's just stupid.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 19 juillet 2011 - 06:11 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

I've played Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 without romancing anyone.

Surprise, still really good games. And god knows I liked them enough to want to stick around this place and rabble about it with other people.

[FoxHound109]

On the one hand, I'd still buy their games because they're amazing. My Shepard hasn't really been able to romance anyone in ME and ME 2 because he's gay, so for all intents and purposes, I've played a Bioware game without any romances. Mass Effect as a series remains one of my absolute favorites of all time regardless of this.

On the other hand, it IS nice to get to know characters deeper and from a different angle (*waits for the sexual innuendo*). For example, I hear Kaiden is interesting if you romance him, but I never got the chance so I offed him in Virmire. I feel like I missed out on seeing another side to him.

[ipgd]

GodWood wrote...

I honestly see no reason why they shouldn't just be full penetration.
I'm an adult. I know what's going on. So why hide it from me?

Have you never seen the "enhanced" DAO romance scenes? I could hardly stop laughing.

There is nothing sexy about 3D models clipping into each other.

Modifié par ipgd, 19 juillet 2011 - 06:19 .

[jlb524]

I've played BW games without romances before (cuz my options all sucked) and it's no biggie.  I'm not sure why people get up in arms over them in the first place as they're entirely optional.

ipgd wrote...

Have you never seen the "enhanced" DAO romance scenes? I could hardly stop laughing.

There is nothing sexy about 3D models clipping into each other.

Oh god, this.

[1upD]

 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

Unless you count a character saying "I love you" at the end as a romance plot, which I probably would.

[CheeseEnchilada]

Romance adds a sense of connection and depth, and helps you to care about the characters and your own protagonist. It's not necessary, but it's a nice addition.

I've played through DA:O and Awakening the first time without romances, and I still felt that connection and depth. Why? Because of the friendship paths. Helping Oghren move on after Branka, earning Sten's respect, being 'sisters' with Morrigan...it helped to humanize my Warden. Awakening was less accessible in that regard, but having a human noble bond with Nathaniel was one of my favorite parts of both games.

Mass Effect is a bit different in that it doesn't share the same character interaction. It's something they're working on for ME3, and I can't wait, but it was hard for me to play through the first two games without romance. I felt like I didn't know these characters, and I wasn't as connected.

Long story short, if there was a Bioware game that came out with no romances but wonderful friendships, I'd buy it pretty quickly.

As for romance scenes, give us ME1 style with the specification of ME2. Every character gets their own scene, and if they decide to show sex, make it sensual and classy.

[shepskisaac]

1upD wrote...

 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

Unless you count a character saying "I love you" at the end as a romance plot, which I probably would.

They kissed too though.

KOTOR 2 would be a better example. The 'romances' in that one could hardly qualify as romances at all, or in some cases, it wasn't even clear what the characters meant (like when Kreia says "You're beautiful to me Exile". It's like, does she hints anything? Does she has any feelings like that for the Exile?)

[PhatSeeJay]

I think pursuing romance with characters is something that draws me to Bioware games, but watching 3D characters grinding at each other in super cheesy cutscenes is something I wouldn't miss if it was disappearing.

[Forst1999]

Bioware games are remarkable for many reasons, among the most important ones are the strong characterization of the companions, and the interaction with them. The romances are just a part of that.
When the story takes place over a significant time span, it would just seem a little odd when there was no romance. DA and ME surely would (months or years without any relationships?Possible, but not usual).
Romances are not always necessary, but with the character driven stories that Bioware makes lately, they fit pretty well.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Interesting characters are more important to me than the romances. I wouldn't have mind if the main character couldn't romance anyone so long as she could still have conversations and form friendships. But after putting in the effort for the conversations and friendships it probably isn't much extra effort to add a romance unless it wouldn't make sense for the story.
When I play games like Oblivion or Fallout I think the main reason I don't enjoy them as much as Dragon Age and Mass Effect is that the characters just aren't as compelling.