Wait Alex, Hawke DID try to run north. Then he met with Aveline who told him the north was cut off by an arm of the horde. He was forced to take the path he took. Both ways were swarmed.
Carver says they've been running since Ostagar. How the hell did the clumsy darkspawn horde outrun them? I mean even if the darkspawn were that mobile, I'd have been expecting Shrieks and (Origins) Genlocks since they're fast, agile and perfect for scouting ahead. And even THEN if that was the case, I wouldn't expect wave after wave after wave of them!
However, my main point is that I just don't find it believable for the protagonist to be running from the darkspawn and just cutting his way through like a gazillion of them; what Bioware needed to do was present the darkspawn as this clever, cunning foe who also were just steamrollering Ferelden in an overwhelming horde assault, so firstly they would have needed to have made a PROPER prologue (rather than BUTTON AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME YEAH COMBAT) and THEN as you flee the darkspawn, yes make encounters against them but make every single one of them hard-fought. For example there were some encounters in Origins against Hurlock Alphas who would use sunder armour on me which basically just wrecked my armour stat for like, 10-15 seconds and then of course there would always be those archers just taking pot shots at my party which really whittled them down. More of that, less mindless button bashing through this supposedly scary horde.
TL;DR - make the darkspawn a real threat so the prologue actually makes a lick of sense
No matter where he would have run, he would have to cut a path through the horde, and if I remember correctly hawke continued down the only path that was before him. The path behind him was blocked.
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i've been pointing out how that just makes no sense to me so there would need to be a proper explanation so as to why north was blocked (which made sense - running back in to your own country northwards while darkspawn are south of you advancing northwards hot on your heels makes sense, darkspawn coming northwards from the south and somehow being north of you as well doesn't)
Story / gameplay segregation exists in video games since the dawn of times (or since video games have stories, to be accurate, because, yeah, in Pong, not that much). Granted it comes in many degrees, and DA2 was a bit much in that regard (ok, a lot), but you can't reasonably (eh) expect none of it in a computer coded thingie with user input.
well i'm not expecting them to remove it completely (good case is Mass Effect 2 where you'll get some characters doing some badass biotics and then when you get to control them they just do the same stuff as everyone else ... *sadface*), but the segregation in DA2 was just flat out awful. Darkspawn are scary. Hawke cuts his way through the entire horde. Templars are the big bad against mages. Mage Hawke runs around Kirkwall zapping the countless paratroopers he gets attacked by. Captain Aveline has improved the city guard massively. Hawke is still getting jumped by waves of paratroopers. Qunari are militarily brilliant. Hawke STILL cleaves his way right through them since their animations take like a decade to go through unlike Hawke & Co's AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME ANIMATIONS which happen at 39626326mph, because they're that AWESOME. I'm sure you can think of more yourself, but the story/gameplay segregation in DA2 was just pathetic.
What Nashiktal said. www.youtube.com/watch around 7'50". The reasoning is sounder than it seems.
god that video made me realise how much i hated the games animations
;D
I see your point. I absolutely don't agree with all your reasons for hating him, though, but I'm not listing why because it's useless. Personal preference is personal, yours is as respectable as mine, and I don't like him enough to defend him no matter what (the Warden, on the other hand...). This said, it annoys me a little when people hate on all of him just because, and then go grasping at straws to try and validate their opinions. I'm intolerant like that 
while I wouldn't go so far so as to say my hate was
entirely rational, you can hardly say my points aren't valid. Kirkwall IS a sh*thole, you'd have to be pretty dense to be loaded with money, and a mage and choose to STAY in Templar HQ when you could just leave it all and get away from being the off-chance of being arrested. Hawke doesn't solve anything with brains either, he just whacks his way through every single situation probably easily getting a death toll of around 100 after every single little quest in the game, plus he does nothing by himself and is just a pawn to people who are actually relevant.
don't think I have anything against you lot PERSONALLY btw, I think i'm just naturally this hostile when it comes to discussing anything DA2 related
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