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#51
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jlb524 wrote...

Yeah, wtf...that always bothered me too.

I just pretend it happens, though.

Pretend hugs are nice too XD


Honestly, a lot of DA2 came off like that, in terms of characters seeming distant. There's something about the lack of hugging, the sitting-on-the-bed space between two characters being just a little too far apart, the way nobody seems to touch each in any way other unless they're having sex. The moments that are supposed to indicate affection always struck me as a little impersonal.

Modifié par bleetman, 21 juillet 2011 - 05:53 .


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Any time Isabela even looked at Fenris, I wish there was a simple little dialogue that stated "BACK OFF!!"

Oh, and anytime Cullen started the mages are bad thing just say " You know, I'm pretty sure you wanted to tap my cousin, a mage, so just shut it!"

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Haha. Anders is such a ****** in that quest, he's like "Ohhh, I wasn't the only one thinking that?!" It sounds like he's kind of half-joking but not really joking at all. And Isabela just doesn't know what to say. I think she said something along the lines of "What? You're just giving him back to the slavers...." and she just sort of stops talking.

I would have liked to ask why the hell Danarius was walking like a woman, it's probably the creepiest thing I've seen. Did anyone else notice this?


Danarius does what now?  :blink:

About the hug thing (I'd quote, but multiple posts on it), I'd imagine it's a clipping issue.  It can be difficult to get character models, especially ones with variables, to have much physical contact without it the models clashing together at some point.  Which just looks... wrong.

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I would like to actually report Anders to Cullen. Imagine that you're actually Hawke... If you went so far as to blatantly tell him, "one of my companions is plotting against the Chantry" then really, why not name names?

Also, I wanted to invite uncle Gamlen back to live with me when he's all that I had left.

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DA2 needs moar hugs like nathaniel & delilah :D

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[Punch Fenris in throat]
[Kick Anders in groin]

Such a shame neither of those were implemented.

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When Meredith asks why they didn't find Emil's body:

Hawke: Are you sure? People tend to explode when I kill them. I've left unidentifiable human remains all over Kirkwall. Some of those body parts must belong to Emil.

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Hawke:  ...  What would you do, were you in my place, Arishok?

Nice. I wish I'd thought of that one.

I really wanted a 'you're a giant p*ick (Anders), you know that?' option.

I wanted that after he chews out Merrill. GD Anders.

I also would have liked to have the ability to hire the Qunari in the
hanged man to move Merrill's mirror into Stately Hawke manor.

Heh. "Maraas Movers. Nothing is Better."

And some choice words with Carver if he joins the Templars.

On an unrelated note, Legacy comes out on tuesday. :whistle:

I would've liked an option to punch Petrice in the face.

I'll see what I can do.;)

A "give Merrill a hug" option

In a more general sense, we're seeing what we can do.

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Lukas Kristjanson wrote...

Heh. "Maraas Movers. Nothing is Better."


Best. Qunari pun. Ever.

Modifié par Mary Kirby, 21 juillet 2011 - 07:48 .


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Lukas Kristjanson wrote...


I would've liked an option to punch Petrice in the face.

I'll see what I can do.;)


Please include a line about 'disingenuous assertations.' Image IPB

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randomcheeses wrote...

I would've liked an option to punch Petrice in the face.


It should look something like this clip from LOtSB (Mass Effect 2; about :25 in). :P

Modifié par happy_daiz, 21 juillet 2011 - 08:25 .


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"Yes Elthina, the Maker does exist. He's going click-click, click-click, click-click on me and it's really ****ing annoying."


Orsino: We need a distraction.
Hawke: What do you want me to do, dress in drag and do the hula?!"


Varric: Okay, so I embellished on Orsino. He didn't actually betray us. But come on Seeker, it sounds much better!


Hawke: You know Arishok, for a great general you didn't exactly make the most of Hightown's defendable stairways. For shame.


Marethari: The demon would've used the Eluvian to escape into our world. You would've been his first victim.
Hawke: Wait a minute... how the hell do you know that? From what Merrill tells me you haven't even studied the Eluvians because they've been so "bad".
Marethari: The demon told me. And he had to have been telling the truth.
Merrill: But Keeper, you said that he was trapped for centuries in that statue and could never escape. And you preached to me about not trusting demons, yet you trust him when you've become an Abomination?
Marethari: .....****.


Marethari: Many of the clan think you'll bring back the Blight disease.
Merrill: And where would they get an idea like that?
Marethari: I told them. It was my duty to warn the clan. Come back to us, da'len. It is not too late.
Hawke: ....great logic there ******. If she did have the taint, ceasing contact with the mirror wouldn't keep the taint from contracting.
Merrill: Not to mention I cleansed it, Keeper. As I've said before.
Marethari: *looks nervous and is speechless at being proven to be an idiot*

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Lukas Kristjanson wrote...



And some choice words with Carver if he joins the Templars.

On an unrelated note, Legacy comes out on tuesday. :whistle:

I would've liked an option to punch Petrice in the face.

I'll see what I can do.;)



Can we just combine these so I can punch the Image IPB out of Carver?  PleaseImage IPB

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Filament wrote...

To Corypheus: Die monster! You don't belong in this world!



Don't worry devs, I got this.


So, you hear about that Legacy DLC? Image IPB

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Filament wrote...

To Corypheus: Die monster! You don't belong in this world!



Don't worry devs, I got this.


So, you hear about that Legacy DLC? Image IPB


Your words are as empty as your soul! The devs ill need a savior such as you!

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

"Yes Elthina, the Maker does exist. He's going click-click, click-click, click-click on me and it's really ****ing annoying."


Orsino: We need a distraction.
Hawke: What do you want me to do, dress in drag and do the hula?!"


Varric: Okay, so I embellished on Orsino. He didn't actually betray us. But come on Seeker, it sounds much better!


Hawke: You know Arishok, for a great general you didn't exactly make the most of Hightown's defendable stairways. For shame.


Marethari: The demon would've used the Eluvian to escape into our world. You would've been his first victim.
Hawke: Wait a minute... how the hell do you know that? From what Merrill tells me you haven't even studied the Eluvians because they've been so "bad".
Marethari: The demon told me. And he had to have been telling the truth.
Merrill: But Keeper, you said that he was trapped for centuries in that statue and could never escape. And you preached to me about not trusting demons, yet you trust him when you've become an Abomination?
Marethari: .....****.


Marethari: Many of the clan think you'll bring back the Blight disease.
Merrill: And where would they get an idea like that?
Marethari: I told them. It was my duty to warn the clan. Come back to us, da'len. It is not too late.
Hawke: ....great logic there ******. If she did have the taint, ceasing contact with the mirror wouldn't keep the taint from contracting.
Merrill: Not to mention I cleansed it, Keeper. As I've said before.
Marethari: *looks nervous and is speechless at being proven to be an idiot*


All very good ideas.

Here's an idea: if they were going to bring in a Mass Effect-style conversation wheel for Dragon Age 2, then why not bring in the Interrupts from ME 2 as well? Having a Paragon Interrupt to hug Merrill (as many others have suggested), or a Renegade one to tell off Anders or Fenris would be great, and would work well in adding a bit of dynamism to the conversation system in this game. Not that I mind the conversation wheel, but if they were going to do it, why not do it all the way?

Anyways, some dialogue suggestions: (Btw, with some of the companions' dialogue, I'll be paraphrasing, as I don't have the specific lines in front of me at the moment)

Anders: Are you sure about Merrill? She may seem like a sweet girl, but she'll never choose you over her demon.
Hawke: Just like you'll never choose someone over your cause?
Anders: That's different.
Hawke: Isn't it? That's why you left the Wardens, right? Not because of your cat, or the fact that you don't like the Deep Roads, it's that they stood for something other than what you were devoted to.
Anders: The Wardens have nothing to do with this.
Hawke: They have everything to do with this. The Wardens gave you a home, a family, and you abandoned them all the same. Whatever Merrill's faults, whatever are disagreements, I trust that she wouldn't betray me.
Anders: You don't know that.
Hawke: I don't. That's what trust is, and whatever else, Merrill has earned it.

(Obviously, this would be a bit different if Merrill betrayed you in the Fade, but the core of it is there)

Elthina: We must trust in the Maker, and hope that he helps them come to an understanding.
Hawke: With all due respect, Your Grace, that attitude helped nothing when the Qunari were here, and it's not going to help everything now.
Elthina: I beg your pardon?
Hawke: This...this blithe assumption that the Maker will set everything right if we just sit back and cool our heels. The Maker abandoned us, Your Grace. Every week, you and your fellow sisters of the Chantry come up here and tell us that He's gone, and we all need to repent and be good little boys and girls if we ever want Him to pay attention to us again, and now you're suggesting that we let Him solve the problem?
Elthina: So you think that taking sides is better?
Hawke: I think stopping Meredith from Tranquilizing mages who have already passed their Harrowing for petty infractions is better. I think forcing her to give her power over this city back into the hands of its people so they might be represented is better. I think using your own authority to actively mediate and resolve disputes between the Circle and templars instead of resorting to condescending assurances is better. War is coming to Kirkwall, Your Grace, and if you won't help to stop it, I mean really help to stop it, then you're worse than useless and we have no need of you.  

(Variations of this would occur depending on Hawke's personality, as well as dialog options indicating their own devoutness and respect for the Chantry.)

Arishok: But for all your might, you are no different than these bas. You do not see.
Hawke: I see that you're a cretin, Arishok. I see that you're a spoiled little child who's brought war and death to this city all because Isabela took your stupid book. And I see you've murdered one of the few men who was trying to keep the peace, who tried his best to appease you, and cared more about Saemus than you ever did. So, yes, mighty Arishok, I see quite well; enough to know you need to be stopped, here and now.

Fenris: I feel like it's very presence has corrupted me. What has magic touched that it hasn't spoiled?
Hawke: My sister. My kind and sweet and beautiful and amazing sister, Fenris, who would not be pleased to hear you speaking in such a fashion.
Fenris: Hawke, I-
Hawke: Bethany is wonderful, Fenris, and nothing will ever change that, not age or time or magic or serving with the Wardens. So be silent and take your mage-hating bigotry with you, I'm tired of hearing it.

Cullen: Champion. It seems you have become less of a friend to the templars as time has gone on.
Hawke: Well, seeing you and your brethren running roughshod over Kirkwall in an attempt to catch mages will do that to you. The city belongs to the people, not the Templar Order, and it's long past time that Meredith understood that.
Cullen: This is just a temporary measure to en-
Hawke: Ensure Kirkwall's safety, yes, I've heard this before. From everything I've heard, Teryn Loghain said as much to justify his betrayal and tyranny, and the Hero of Fereldan chopped his head off with Starfang all the same. Cullen: The teryn was not serving the Maker. Our intentions are in accordance with the Chantry's will.
Hawke: That doesn't make it right, Cullen, and you don't have a reputation as the Hero of River Dane to fall back on. Remember that. 

(Of course, a variation would occur if the Hero is a mage; ie, "The Hero of Fereldan still ripped him apart with great demon-hands from the Fade," etc.)

And since I felt the Diplomatic!Hawke speech when defending the mages during the Last Straw was a bit weak, here's an alternative.

Hawke: Meredith thinks she has us trapped here. She thinks that she can just march in here and butcher an innocent group of men, women and children for a crime they did not commit, and she thinks she can do so without anyone opposing her. Well, she thought wrong.
I will oppose her. I will oppose her now, I will keep on opposing her, and all those like her, no matter the odds and no matter the consequences. If that means our death, our damnation, then so be it, for I will not allow her crimes to go unpunished, and I will not permit the innocent to suffer while I still have the strength to defend them.
So, come on! Let's give the Templars the fight they're asking for. Let's show them that tyrants will always be denied, no matter what emblem they wear or cause they invoke. Let's show them that we will not let fear compromise us and what we hold dear. Let's show them that not even the Maker Himself will keep us from doing the right thing, and that even He will tremble at our names before this night is done. For Kirkwall, for freedom, for the future; we will deny them.

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I approve of all of those.

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I want an option to tell Sebastian that he is a selfish fool who uses his piety as an excuse to hide from the responsibility of ruling Starkhaven. I want to call him out for leaving the fate of his city in the hands of a mentally disabled king. And further, I want to punch him in the throat for continuing to defend Elthina and the Chantry when a brisk walk through Kirkwall is overwhelming evidence of their gross negligence of the city and the welfare of its people.

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I would've liked to tell Sebastian "Death is never justice when he calls for Anders to be killed. I would've liked to tell him that vowing vengeance on the innocent people of Kirkwall is the act of a child and a tyrant. I would've liked for Hawke to punch him when he tries to order me to kill Anders.

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Also, I want the choice to be happy about Elthina getting blown up. Even the most positive response is a mere grudging acceptance that Anders might be right that drastic action was needed.

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Agreed. Since Elthina did nothing, we should've been jumping for joy and having parties.

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I would have like an initial dialogue option with both Fenris and Anders that didn't sound like I had the emotional depth of the flea. 
Fenris "Some mage wants to flay the skin from my body."
Me "And what a waste of a good looking elf"
Anders "I'm possessed by this spirit, etc, etc."
Me  "At least he can't complain about the body he's occupying."  (To be honest I don't think Justice would care he was in a troll, in fact would probably prefer it since then Hawke wouldn't keep distracting him with sexual inuendo.)

Plenty of places where I would have asked different questions of people or challenge them as above but particularly when Fenris chews me out about taking him into the Fade and then he betrayed me.  "Well excuse me, but I thought since you always go on so much about mages not withstanding corruption, that you at least I could count on."

Doing Last Straw supporting the mages there are places where it would have been nice to have the option of saying something. 
Like when Anders and Averline are still bickering about justice and who it applies to.  To Anders "For the love of peace, do you want to save these mages or not?"

Just down the street from there where we encounter the only group of normal mages in the city being attacked by Templars.  My mage flings herself to forefront of battle to stop them getting to the mages.  Dog, Fenris and Averline follow suit.  Then I notice red dots behind us.  So Anders will have them covered.  Check on Anders - No he hasn't. 
"Anders, you know that bit where you go all glowy and rip Templars apart - now would be a good time."

In the hall, when Anders thanks me for still supporting him.  Able to point to the other mages and say "You murdering Moron, I didn't do it for you, I did it for them.  You're only here because you owe them for giving Meredith the excuse she needed".  ( I had not had the conversation when you are told that Meredith has already applied for the RoA before the bomb.)

And after killing Orsino and Anders excuses him with the words "It was an act of desperation", seemingly overlooking the fact that in addition to using blood magic, Orsino also killed the mages we had just saved.
"Oh in that case."  Point to Anders.  "Kill him Fenris."

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Gervaise wrote...

In the hall, when Anders thanks me for still supporting him.  Able to point to the other mages and say "You murdering Moron, I didn't do it for you, I did it for them.  You're only here because you owe them for giving Meredith the excuse she needed". 

Yessss. This!

( I had not had the conversation when you are told that Meredith has already applied for the RoA before the bomb.)

???   Ive never had this - when does this happen??

And after killing Orsino and Anders excuses him with the words "It was an act of desperation", seemingly overlooking the fact that in addition to using blood magic, Orsino also killed the mages we had just saved.
"Oh in that case."  Point to Anders.  "Kill him Fenris."


Love it. lol :D

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And after killing Orsino and Anders excuses him with the words "It was an act of desperation", seemingly overlooking the fact that in addition to using blood magic, Orsino also killed the mages we had just saved.
"Oh in that case." Point to Anders. "Kill him Fenris."



I'm assuming pro-templar? Because pro-mage playthroughs don't have Orsino kill those mages. They die by Templar hands, even if you save them and kill all the Templars. Because Bioware never wants to account for the mages' lives. Even if you save them, it's far easier to just kill them off.

If you save the mages in the Harrowing Chamber, they all have heart attacks at the same time due to a massive fungal infection of the big toe, save for Irving.