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[Ryzaki]

@TS2Aggie: Forget you and your neutral hating ways

[ipgd]

Sialater wrote...

How hard is it to understand that you don't give "criticism" unless asked?

"Criticism" is not the end of the world, is not a personal attack on any of the actual persons involved, and doesn't exactly warrant the angry beehive response that's erupted here. This has been made into a bigger deal than it should be.

[Ottemis]

co_oki wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Actually, to be as active as it is, the femshep thread is one of the most civil on BSN

After browsing the femshep thread a few times, are you so sure that if someone were to post a constructive criticism about a certain Female Shepard's face, or to make a comment about how "photomanips" are a form of artistic plagiarism, do you think that would be taken well at all in the femshep thread?

But hey, I don't post there.

No... hate to say.. but it would quickly turn into a catfight.

The difference lies in caring about another's feelings. If that's there then there's no problem.
The lack there-of is an issue, yes.
CONSTRUCTIVE critisism is fine when asked for, sure.

Modifié par Ottemis, 21 juillet 2011 - 01:33 .

[Sialater]

co_oki wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Actually, to be as active as it is, the femshep thread is one of the most civil on BSN

After browsing the femshep thread a few times, are you so sure that if someone were to post a constructive criticism about a certain Female Shepard's face, or to make a comment about how "photomanips" are a form of artistic plagiarism, do you think that would be taken well at all in the femshep thread?

But hey, I don't post there.

No... hate to say.. but it would quickly turn into a catfight.

How about you just don't give criticism unless asked and then you do it politely?

[Rinji the Bearded]

If you don't want something to be criticized, don't share it.

This is a public forum.

[Arxduke]

SilentNukee wrote...

Btw, I love your sig TZ
So,




Pretty colours while the fire burns to kill the thread.

Pretty colors...

[Sialater]

ipgd wrote...

Sialater wrote...

How hard is it to understand that you don't give "criticism" unless asked?

"Criticism" is not the end of the world, is not a personal attack on any of the actual persons involved, and doesn't exactly warrant the angry beehive response that's erupted here. This has been made into a bigger deal than it should be.

There's a difference between criticism and insults.

[Aggie Punbot]

Sialater wrote...

How hard is it to understand that you don't give "criticism" unless asked?

With all due respect, Sialater, if you don't want criticism of a creation of yours, your best bet is to never post it online. You will *always* get that regardless of whether you ask for it or not. One has the right to post their creations as much as one has the right to comment on them.

@Ryzaki: I regret nothing!

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 21 juillet 2011 - 01:40 .

[Ottemis]

RinjiRenee wrote...

If you don't want something to be criticized, don't share it.

This is a public forum.

If a certain part of the forum is established and 'not for you', then don't visit it.
I think that would be a more logical conclusion to make unless you, you know, don't give a toss about other people's feelings and just aim to misbehave.

[ipgd]

Sialater wrote...

There's a difference between criticism and insults.

Taking personal offense from a joke directed at a pixel game avatar that isn't even yours is a little...

let's all just hold hands and love each other

Modifié par ipgd, 21 juillet 2011 - 01:38 .

[Sialater]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Sialater wrote...

How hard is it to understand that you don't give "criticism" unless asked?

With all due respect, Sialater, if you don't want criticism of a creation of yours, your best bet is to never post it online. You will *always* get that regardless of whether you ask for it or not. One has teh right to post their creations as much as one has the right to comment on them.

I'll uh... not quote Ashley here.

Criticism has it's place.  It's place isn't insults on a fanthread.

[Sialater]

ipgd wrote...

Sialater wrote...

There's a difference between criticism and insults.

Taking personal offense from a joke directed at a pixel game avatar that isn't even yours is a little...

let's all just hold hands and love each other

When you spend three hours or more trying to get a face you can live with for the duration of two-three games MAKES THEM YOURS.

[AtreiyaN7]

Sialater wrote...

How hard is it to understand that you don't give "criticism" unless asked?

Two words: public forum. I feel that if you, or I, or anyone puts up a picture of their work, then they have opened themselves up to comments - that would include unasked for opinions, etc.

[syllogi]

Upsettingshorts wrote...
I've posted a few times about how I prefer Mark Meer's work in ME2 to Jennifer Hale's, but I felt the opposite in ME1.  I'm not sure how that would make me part of some anti-Femshep bogeyman cult.

I'm postulating theories about what could make someone come out of nowhere with a pretty rude insult directed towards a specific poster's character, when said poster wasn't even part of the current discussion.

I am not aware of any anti-FemShep conspiracy.  But I'm just wondering why you felt the need to be catty and obnoxious, Shorts, when you *knew* what kind of response you would get.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Ottemis wrote...
If a certain part of the forum is established and 'not for you', then don't visit it.
I think that would be a more logical conclusion to make unless you, you know, don't give a toss about other people's feelings and just aim to misbehave.

One can post constructive criticism about something and not intend to injure the feelings of the creator, nor to misbehave.  That's the whole point of "constructive criticism."

I'm not sure how this is hard to understand. 

[upsettingshorts]

As such, my Shepards are open to criticism (even insults and crude jokes) on the same terms because I posted them.  Here's another look:



He's the cousin of RinjiRenee's Shepard.

[Sialater]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

How hard is it to understand that you don't give "criticism" unless asked?

Two words: public forum. I feel that if you, or I, or anyone puts up a picture of their work, then they have opened themselves up to comments - that would include unasked for opinions, etc.

And this is the appropriate place for that?

[mauro2222]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Fiddles_stix wrote...

Mash Mashington wrote...

All your Shepards suck

Say it ain't so

With lips like that, I'd say.

Lol inter species sex XD



Okay enough derailment from me. I will say this though, I like both MShep and Femshep (prefer FemShep) and I'd like them to have separate threads because I find them to be very different. Putting them together detracts from both in my opinion.

[Quorrah]

Sialater wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Sialater wrote...

There's a difference between criticism and insults.

Taking personal offense from a joke directed at a pixel game avatar that isn't even yours is a little...

let's all just hold hands and love each other

When you spend three hours or more trying to get a face you can live with for the duration of two-three games MAKES THEM YOURS.

Either way, when someone does say something you find offensive, but they didn't mean it too, and they try to apologize, yet you won't forgive them, does not help the situation either. <_<

[CrazyRah]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

As such, my Shepards are open to criticism (even insults and crude jokes) on the same terms because I posted them.  Here's another look:



He's the cousin of RinjiRenee's Shepard.

He looks quite good. I like him

[Rinji the Bearded]

Sialater wrote...

And this is the appropriate place for that?

Yes, as long as the person criticizing is civil and the person receiving criticism accepts that this is a public forum.

[Dave of Canada]

Ottemis wrote...

If a certain part of the forum is established and 'not for you', then don't visit it.

Unless you're the fan of said character and the only thread you're capable of posting about it is there. You're not a club, you don't decide who joins and says what about who. It's a public forum open to everybody and everybody has different opinions on different things, allowed to post.

If you don't want criticism on something, don't post it. It's not to "misbehave" or whatever.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 21 juillet 2011 - 01:43 .

[Sialater]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Ottemis wrote...
If a certain part of the forum is established and 'not for you', then don't visit it.
I think that would be a more logical conclusion to make unless you, you know, don't give a toss about other people's feelings and just aim to misbehave.

One can post constructive criticism about something and not intend to injure the feelings of the creator, nor to misbehave.  That's the whole point of "constructive criticism."

I'm not sure how this is hard to understand. 

So how were the insults directed at my Shepards and Chignon's remotely intended to "not injure the feelings of the creator?"

[Dave of Canada]

Sialater wrote...

So how were the insults directed at my Shepards and Chignon's remotely intended to "not injure the feelings of the creator?"

You take things too personal?