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#126
syllogi

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ThanesSniper wrote...

I think some people are looking too far into this... Role playing games are so called because you can play a role as whatever character you choose. Having a main female character isn't revolutionary, or groundbreaking, or culturally/socially important. It's just another choice in an RPG.


Tell that to Alpha Protocol and the Witcher/TW2.  I've been told that I'm depriving myself by not playing those games, but based on past experience, I am far more likely to enjoy and finish an RPG if I can play a female character.  So, while it's nice to think of it as just another choice at character creation, it's not always there.

And before I get jumped on, I do understand why the Witcher series only lets you play as Geralt.  I just have no interest in him as a protagonist in a game.  I read tons of books, and watch tons of movies with male lead characters, but if I'm going to role play in a video game, I prefer the choice to create a female character.

I've been mildly obsessed with seeking out female role models since I was a small child.  I guess it's still something I crave, when playing games.

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Now for the daily science lesson.
Let's dissect this thread!
Person 1: Opinion...
Person 2: Opinion!
Person 1: OPINION!!
Person 3: Opinion, opinion.
Person 1: Opinion.
Person 2: OPINION!!!!
Person 4: OPINION!!
Udina: Outrage!

#128
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As long as there is such a concept as a mother, women will always be making sandwiches. :)

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Massadonious1 wrote...

As long as there is such a concept as a mother, women will always be making sandwiches. :)

psh, I make andwiches for my mom all the time, it's called being a good son.Image IPB

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Siansonea II wrote...

rynluna wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

Kitchen, etc.


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That's right boys. This is your future.:devil:


LOL! :lol:

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Massadonious1 wrote...

As long as there is such a concept as a mother, women will always be making sandwiches. :)


Yes, I'm sure your mom still makes yours. :P

#132
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You wound me.

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rynluna wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

Kitchen, etc.


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Now, that is funny!

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Massadonious1 wrote...

You wound me.


Go cry to mama.

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being 100% honest
if femshep was removed hardly any one would care
she doesnt matter because she is simply an off shoot of sheploo
male shep is the protagonist
no sexism
deal with it

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Such childish displays. Worthy of bsn.

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My grandmother is a 60s hippy feminist and she raised me this thread brings back memoires of my childhood. She gives me a speech every time Hillary Clinton is on television! :P

Modifié par James2912, 21 juillet 2011 - 04:02 .


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Honestly, Femshep's primary purpose is that guys are like:

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Massadonious1 wrote...

As long as there is such a concept as a mother, women will always be making sandwiches. :)


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Siansonea II wrote...

So, it's a natural human reaction for "you guys" to get defensive when we women say "yay! an empowered female protagonist"? Geez. Anyone else find that sketchy? Are we supposed to keep quiet? Because "you guys" sure don't censor yourselves AT ALL. Why should we?


Mmm I don't see threads popping up constantly praising male shep / sheploo / whatever.

I mean, perhaps it is just me, but can't we just be happy that femshep is here without saying it matters more than say Lara Croft (even though she was a bit sexualised, never played the games though)

And perhaps I'm just tired but some of you come out as it is a grand revolution in gaming in ME with a female lead when it really isn't (and it wouldn't be either if it was the only option).

But you also have to remember that whenever someones space gets invaded, in this case "traditional" male territory it gets defended and sometimes these threads feels like an invasion...

I'm more really up for just being happy that there is a female playerbase, that you get a trailer, hopefully more than 1 in the long run, and that there  is a female option and can we just play together as friends now, sharing our stories and chill about it?

I have nothing against FemShep but this constant need to point out FemShep, well, that is tiresome especially because BW has never discriminated the female protagonist.

Now take this article and go post it on the CoD boards because CoD has never had a female lead and could certainly use one.:wizard:

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DonDaMon wrote...

being 100% honest
if femshep was removed hardly any one would care
she doesnt matter because she is simply an off shoot of sheploo
male shep is the protagonist
no sexism
deal with it


Male shep is not canon, the whole series never in any way adresses if Shep is actually male or female.  

#142
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I bet Wonder Woman can make a mean sandwich.

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DonDaMon wrote...

being 100% honest
if femshep was removed hardly any one would care
she doesnt matter because she is simply an off shoot of sheploo
male shep is the protagonist
no sexism
deal with it


What a missed opportunity. That could have been a haiku.

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Such childish displays. Worthy of bsn.


Yeah, because the first couple of pages were full of mature and constructive conversations.

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Why?

Because Jennifer Hale can out-act Mark Meer any day of the week. That's why. Case closed.

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rynluna wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Such childish displays. Worthy of bsn.


Yeah, because the first couple of pages were full of mature and constructive conversations.


If that's what you think I was talking about.

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Massadonious1 wrote...

I bet Wonder Woman can make a mean sandwich.


Wonder Woman is your mom?!  Autograph.  Nao.

#148
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Someone made a "penis" reference on the first page. I'm pretty sure it can't get any worse.

#149
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This thread is a fail, I request a lock.

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nhsk wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

So, it's a natural human reaction for "you guys" to get defensive when we women say "yay! an empowered female protagonist"? Geez. Anyone else find that sketchy? Are we supposed to keep quiet? Because "you guys" sure don't censor yourselves AT ALL. Why should we?


Mmm I don't see threads popping up constantly praising male shep / sheploo / whatever.

I mean, perhaps it is just me, but can't we just be happy that femshep is here without saying it matters more than say Lara Croft (even though she was a bit sexualised, never played the games though)

And perhaps I'm just tired but some of you come out as it is a grand revolution in gaming in ME with a female lead when it really isn't (and it wouldn't be either if it was the only option).

But you also have to remember that whenever someones space gets invaded, in this case "traditional" male territory it gets defended and sometimes these threads feels like an invasion...

I'm more really up for just being happy that there is a female playerbase, that you get a trailer, hopefully more than 1 in the long run, and that there  is a female option and can we just play together as friends now, sharing our stories and chill about it?

I have nothing against FemShep but this constant need to point out FemShep, well, that is tiresome especially because BW has never discriminated the female protagonist.

Now take this article and go post it on the CoD boards because CoD has never had a female lead and could certainly use one.:wizard:


Okay, I understand. You're a dude. You don't understand why women think FemShep is awesome, because you don't understand women, period. And it makes you defensive. Well, bummer. It would be a lot better if "I don't understand" was followed by "I would like to understand" rather than "just shut the hell up", but I guess I've always been an idealistic sort.