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[GamerJ]

hey all im curios or all paragon chooises will end good in me3.
becuse in one of my playtroughs i killed sidonis with the loyal mission of garrus i thought it was the right thing to do
but when i spared him he said he would make up for garrus somehow and that was the paragon chooise(let garrus kill him was renegade) same with zaeed when u let him kill vido, but becuse ur a spectre i always save the workers(paragon)
or keeping kasumi's graybox is also a paragon option in the video u also see a reaper picture in the graybox would there be a hint in it in how to defeat the reapers or something? or will some of those paragon options bite u in the ass in me3? becuse i try to do a best playtrough as possible by doing everything paragon (bening the ultimate hero)but i dont know or some of those will really resolve into something good in me3?

what are ur guys opinions about it?

[CroGamer002]

I think to get perfect ending you need to combine Paragon and Renegade choices.

[LordAnguis]

One Paragon decision I've always wondered about coming back and biting us in the butt is the Rachni. I mean, we all hope that the Rachni Queen isn't lying to us by saying the Reapers caused the Rachni War, but what if it's to fool us until the very last second?
To the OP: Actually, I think the keeping the Box is the Renegade speech option with Kasumi. Neutral and Paragon (Middle and Top choices) are basically the same thing: it's what Keiji wanted, so destroy it. The bottom is keep it, if she feels she can keep it safe.
Not to mention the fact that as much as I like the Krogan, Wrex and Grunt are rarities when it comes to the outlook on other races; Grunt only has a more open idea because of serving with Shepard; Wrex is, for the most part, a radical Krogan. We've already seen that, with the whole Uvenk confrontation, and something tells me that we're going to have to help Wrex put down the rest of the rebellious Krogan clans in ME3. So the cure for the genophage, being the most likely Paragon choice, may have been a good thing if Krogan grow as fast as they breed; otherwise, I'm not sure giving them the cure for the genophage is good until after the Reapers are defeated.
One thing BioWare's basically said is that certain missions from DLC will influence the story for those who purchased those DLCs, sans perhaps LotSB and Arrival. So for most, they will have to deal with any after-affects of Zaeed, Kasumi, Overlord, Bring Down the Sky (if you let Balak go), etc.
I've always wondered if we'll see Balak in Mass Effect 3, for those who have that DLC and released him.

[Rahmiel]

All paragon choices should have paragon results. Whether you're renegade or paragon, you'll be able to save Earth. But if you play as a renegade, you don't care about the means, only the final result. Your choices should reflect that.

As a paragon, you do care about the means, and you treat everyone as equal. If you play as a paragon, you should end up with an ending that makes sense for a paragon. If you play as a renegade you should get an ending that fits a renegade.

I wouldn't be surprised if more humans end up dying in the paragon ending as opposed to the renegade ending. However I probably won't care simply because the paragon ending is what I'll want (seeing as I play a paragon). Renegades probably don't care about the cost of alien lives, as long as they save humanity.

It's not, "paragon = ultimate goodie" ending and "renegade = ultimate baddie" ending. Paragon and Renegade are not good and evil.

[MarchWaltz]

Mesina2 wrote...

I think to get perfect ending you need to combine Paragon and Renegade choices.

By our powers combined....

[KainrycKarr]

Oh good, it's been a while since we had a nice paragon/renegade flamewar.

[KainrycKarr]

MarchWaltz wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

I think to get perfect ending you need to combine Paragon and Renegade choices.

By our powers combined....

I am Commander...Shepard?

[Bad King]

Arcian wrote...

Fair Warning: A lot of butthurt Renegades are going to storm this thread and be butthurt about it.

I suspect the Paragon route will end up putting a dampener on the human expansion, earning the resentment of humanity's proponents while earning the everlasting respect of the aliens, whereas the Renegade route goes in the opposite way.

I doubt it. A lot of aliens will still resent humanity regardless of whether you're paragon or renegade if ME2 is anything to go by.

[Lumikki]

Mesina2 wrote...

I think to get perfect ending you need to combine Paragon and Renegade choices.

There is no perfect ending, just different way to reach in "same" ending. Ending is allways same, the story is allways same, just how you deal situations is different.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Paragon decisions will most likely all turn out to have more than positive consequences, saving the most amount of lives.

[JetsoverEverything]

lame.

[Ieldra]

All I can say is this:

If pragmatic decisions that make strategic sense at the cost of morals don't occasionally have a strategic benefit over their alternatives, then something is wrong with the way the universe is designed.

[GamerJ]

ill guess we will find out in me3 what the right and wrong decisions are =-P

[BatmanPWNS]

I think most Regen choices are more useful. Like when you put the alarm where the Salarian squad is just to get a dozen Geths off your back.

[HogarthHughes 3]

Mesina2 wrote...

I think to get perfect ending you need to combine Paragon and Renegade choices.

I'm hoping for this.  Otherwise why even bother with choices throughout the game?

[Lumikki]

Ieldra2 wrote...

All I can say is this:

If pragmatic decisions that make strategic sense at the cost of morals don't occasionally have a strategic benefit over their alternatives, then something is wrong with the way the universe is designed.

I disagree.

You are making it sound like been practical or efficient it's all what it's about. Morality is there for reason too, same way practicallity is too. If you forgot morality over practical, you are heading towards world where morality has no purpose.

Using example. Company makes cars, but in design has flaw what is very costly to fix, what also cause accident in very rare cases and some people dies because of it. Now as practical it cost less money pay lawsuit, than fix the design problem. So, it's cheaper to let people die. Thats where morality comes in, we put morality in table and say human life is more valuable than money. If we would not have morality we would live in pure chaos and be like robots what just think what's the most efficient way to deal situations.

Now what does this mean in game like Mass Effect. Morality and practicality has role here too, that's what makes paragon and renegade path different.  They aren't just choise of more pratical, but what is also moral choise too.

Modifié par Lumikki, 21 juillet 2011 - 07:57 .

[Z.Shepard]

I hope not, that would be too simple...

[Faust1979]

If you're do all the paragon stuff it makes sense that you would have the best possible ending. Being a dick all the time means things might not always turn out well.

[Destroy Raiden_]

I think to get the perfect ending you need to use para, neutral, and ren responses and choices throughout the game sometimes go to war, sometimes prevent one, other times walkaway and let the chips fall where they may or be the middleman not quit taking one side over the other and walk that line right between them to influence the outcome.

[Shepard Lives]

Oh, this is going to get ugly.

[fredward55]

Modifié par fredward55, 21 juillet 2011 - 11:12 .

[Bad King]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

I think to get the perfect ending you need to use para, neutral, and ren responses and choices throughout the game sometimes go to war, sometimes prevent one, other times walkaway and let the chips fall where they may or be the middleman not quit taking one side over the other and walk that line right between them to influence the outcome.

Renagon ftw.

[fredward55]

KainrycKarr wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

I think to get perfect ending you need to combine Paragon and Renegade choices.

By our powers combined....

I am Commander...Shepard?

That song was the most awsomens thing I've herad all day.

[Seboist]

Bad King wrote...

Destroy Raiden wrote...

I think to get the perfect ending you need to use para, neutral, and ren responses and choices throughout the game sometimes go to war, sometimes prevent one, other times walkaway and let the chips fall where they may or be the middleman not quit taking one side over the other and walk that line right between them to influence the outcome.

Renagon ftw.

Renegon is the best path.