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[Jaron Oberyn]

Wow. So much for improved RPG elements. Button Awesome Guy is contradicting everything Bioware said after E3 trying to calm people who said it was so much pew pew. Either he's lying, or he's telling the truth and the people who are promising "improved" RPG elements are telling us that just so we can blindly purchase it. I agree with a guy who posted earlier in the thread, Mass Effect 3 is going to be the last Bioware game I purchase. This is beyond ridiculous.


-Polite

[VolusvsReaper]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Wow. So much for improved RPG elements. Button Awesome Guy is contradicting everything Bioware said after E3 trying to calm people who said it was so much pew pew. Either he's lying, or he's telling the truth and the people who are promising "improved" RPG elements are telling us that just so we can blindly purchase it. I agree with a guy who posted earlier in the thread, Mass Effect 3 is going to be the last Bioware game I purchase. This is beyond ridiculous.


-Polite

Taking all bets on this.

[Ianamus]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Wow. So much for improved RPG elements. Button Awesome Guy is contradicting everything Bioware said after E3 trying to calm people who said it was so much pew pew. Either he's lying, or he's telling the truth and the people who are promising "improved" RPG elements are telling us that just so we can blindly purchase it. I agree with a guy who posted earlier in the thread, Mass Effect 3 is going to be the last Bioware game I purchase. This is beyond ridiculous.


-Polite

I agree completely that those responses were disasterous, but I'm going to wait to see what the quality of the actual game is before I make a decision like this.

[KainrycKarr]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Wow. So much for improved RPG elements. Button Awesome Guy is contradicting everything Bioware said after E3 trying to calm people who said it was so much pew pew. Either he's lying, or he's telling the truth and the people who are promising "improved" RPG elements are telling us that just so we can blindly purchase it. I agree with a guy who posted earlier in the thread, Mass Effect 3 is going to be the last Bioware game I purchase. This is beyond ridiculous.


-Polite

So, you're taking the word of this PR tool over the actual DEMOS and visuals that have been shown to us?

We have SEEN some of these improved elements. Actually seen them in play. In the game. The ONLY thing that this article shows is that the PR guy is incredibly ignorant about what he's actually promoting.

Great logic!

[xentar]

The PLC wrote...

How about you watch some of the E3 demos before claiming that Bioware are lying to us. The RPG elements are way better than ME2. The same with the weapon customization. Just because this forum has an obsession with ME1's awful inventory system, doesn't mean that the RPG elemtents in 3 hasn't been improved. Watch some of the E3 demos if you don't believe me.

Well, as far as I am concerned, RPG elements are notions that go beyond combat. I have decided not to watch any videos for spoiler reasons, so, maybe I am wrong here, but what non-combat RPG elements are shown there?

[Ace of Dawn]

The PLC wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Wow. So much for improved RPG elements. Button Awesome Guy is contradicting everything Bioware said after E3 trying to calm people who said it was so much pew pew. Either he's lying, or he's telling the truth and the people who are promising "improved" RPG elements are telling us that just so we can blindly purchase it. I agree with a guy who posted earlier in the thread, Mass Effect 3 is going to be the last Bioware game I purchase. This is beyond ridiculous.


-Polite

How about you watch some of the E3 demos before claiming that Bioware are lying to us. The RPG elements are way better than ME2. The same with the weapon customization. Just because this forum has an obsession with ME1's awful inventory system, doesn't mean that the RPG elemtents in 3 hasn't been improved. Watch some of the E3 demos if you don't believe me.

I hardly see the point in telling him to do so. I feel that everyone has already made up their mind. And even if they buy the game, it will not be specific to their liking. Let him feel Mass Effect 3 will be awful.

Either he'll be right, or surprised. Either way, he wins.

Really, what I find funny is that he is still buying it in spite of what he has said and believes. Makes his "last Bioware game I purchase" statement comical.

[shepskisaac]

It's just marketing people, marketing.

[Blastback]

Shepard Lives wrote...

Bioware sucks at making a fan-friendly advertising campaign? Silverman turns into a complete clown every time he gets intervewed? Stop the bloody presses.

Seriously, people, this kind of thing happens every month. It happened with DAO (THIS IS THE NEW ****) and it happened with DAII (which had quite possibly the worst marketing campaign in BW history). Simmer the hell down.

But Daaaaad... Everyone else on the internet gets to go *******!

[Sanunes]

Looks like Mass Effect 2 with elements of Mass Effect 1 added in, which is what I have always thought Mass Effect 3 would be, but again I never considered Mass Effect 1 to be a RPG, so I guess that could be were you are disappointed and I am not.

I have to agree with what some of the people are saying here too, BioWare needs a new PR guy that actually knows the game he is playing, for most of the time I feel like someone at a used car dealership that is just hearing buzz words so they can make the sale.

[Village_Idiot]

Seriously people. If you get this wound up over a load of marketing spin, I have no idea how you can get through the day without having a coronary. It's buzz words aimed at the potential buyers, not at the so called "true fans" who just cry "RUINED FOREVER!" when they see it anyway.

[jamesp81]

I don't put much stock in what the magazines say about a game 8 months or so before it's finished.

[xentar]

The PLC wrote...

Gun customization: You'll be able to attach different parts to your gun (like a scope for more accuracy etc.) From what I've heard, you'll be able to do this with EVERY gun in the game, except heavy weapons of course. 

The squad menu has been greatly improved too, with many more skill to spend your XP on. It's more of a skill tree now. Does that makes sense? (English is not my first language. Maybe someone will be able to explain it better).

Gun customization is combat-related. So could be skill trees all the skills we have are in fact active or passive combat abilities.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

As far as I can tell, this thread was started with comments about the article by someone with an extreme prejudice against ME2. The rest of the thread is bickering. Next thread please.

[xentar]

The PLC wrote...

xentar wrote...

Gun customization is combat-related. So could be skill trees all the skills we have are in fact active or passive combat abilities.

I have no idea what you guys want then.

Well, it may not be appropriate this late in the series, but I would consider addition of abilities that don't directly affect combat an improvement. Stuff like bringing back persuasion, decryption and hacking skills, adding a stealth skill, maybe, different kinds of crafting (although this is probably partially covered by aforementioned gun customization).

Note, however, that this is what I like to see in RPGs but I'm totally OK with stuff like this being absent in ME3 since it was ME2 that drew me in and it did so because I treated it as a shooter (the "wrong" genre for me) and thus had much lower expectations.

My main concerns are plot-related and I am expecting the persuasion system to end up horribly wrong (hopefully not enough to be game-breaking).

[sympathy4saren]

VolusvsReaper wrote...

People are so worried making 340 of these threads a week but when the game comes out they will be on here praising how awesome and amazing it is.

Yeah guys! Just like DA2!

[Wrathra]

Honestly, David Silverman needs to stop talking. Every time I hear or see something he's done, I cringe. 

Isn't he the same guy that said that switching from the Deep Roads to the Brecilian forest in DA:O was confusing to people? Sigh.

[quote]Terror_K wrote...
[quote]
"It's a natural entry point for new players: giant alien race launches all-out war, you have to rally the forces of the universe to counter and see if you can take them down. That's pretty clear. You don't need to be like: 'Well, what about when I had this love affair?' It's like, who cares? It's all out war!"[/quote]

I care for one. I understand that this is the big Reaper battle, but that doesn't mean everything has to be so overtly focused on "Action! Action! Action!" with no real substance.

[/quote][/quote]

This concerns me as well.  Character relationships, be they friends/loved ones/whatever make the fight that much more important.  You are more personally invested in it, because you have something to lose.

I can randomly shoot things in other games if I want to do something mindless (which is fun, for its own reasons). 

I hope Bioware realizes that their story/character development is what makes their games unique, and what used to set them apart and that this guy is just spewing crap. Unfortunately, I don't think they care so much anymore.

My $0.02, for what its worth.

Modifié par Wrathra, 22 juillet 2011 - 04:52 .

[sympathy4saren]

Thompson family wrote...

Re: OP

Old school RPGrs still harbor hope?

You know, that's really sad.

Your statement is only an ad hominem

[SomeKindaEnigma]

I also still can't figure out why people are making DA2 comparisons. ME3 has a different team, right?

I don't know which thread topic is getting more played out, the "James Vega is a douchebag jersey shore star" threads, the "ME3 is gonna sux0rz like DA2 and I have no real reason to believe it" threads, or the "I can't believe theyre discussing how action packed ME3 is to market the game" threads.

Geeze, put all that negative energy in something else lol

[sympathy4saren]

Ace of Dawn wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

ME3 is gonig to be nothing short of Mass effect 2:episode 2.

Have you played the game? 

How was the ending?

A button was pushed. And it was awesome.

And that button is the Right Trigger. I'm sure some hope the energy sword is mapped to the right trigger, too, in a combo sequence. Otherwise, it might become to much work and effort and be to hard for some players.

I'm joking. Kind of.

[Immortanius]

IsaacShep wrote...

It's just marketing people, marketing.

Thank you, sir...I was about to say this myself...

It's just marketing. Peoples' whining and moaning about this, that, and the other is going to do absolutely no good, and is completely pointless. Youtube the IN-GAME footage of the new updates and see for yourself how the new features(that we've been shown so far) will integrate into the game. All the guy is doing is marketing his company's product. Whether it's good or bad marketing is his issue.

HOWEVER, the Mass Effect series thus far has not let the majority of us, the fans, down...So have some damn faith before you start pointing fingers and accusing Bioware of "failing" before they've even finished and shown us the full game. Let them work their magic, quit your 10 year old kid complaining, and be patient. They won't disappoint!

[VolusvsReaper]

sympathy4saren wrote...

VolusvsReaper wrote...

People are so worried making 340 of these threads a week but when the game comes out they will be on here praising how awesome and amazing it is.

Yeah guys! Just like DA2!

Comparing the Mass Effect series to Dragon Age II...lol go sit down....