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[Isaidlunch]

Marketings gonna market

His job is to advertise the game, I'm not sure what you were expecting from an interview with him.

[PlumPaul93]

I usually hate on Bioware regarding things like this, but really what
else can they show? They can't get to far into depth of story or
character interaction (which is what I assume some want to see) without
spoiling it for people, which would cause people to whine about that.
Either way people are going to be pissed it seems.

[Kane Corr]

Haha, all I will say is that he kind of has a point about the whole romance plot.

Like...we're facing REAPERS....haha.


But then again...I love the romance. Just find this whole situation laughable.

[Savber100]

Phaedon wrote...

Savber100 wrote...
Normally, I disagree with Terror_K on his (or her) position on RPGs but I have to admit that I can't blame him (or her) about this interview. Seriously, this guy does not inspire confidence that Bioware is planning to enrich the RPG elements.

If you have a problem with Silverman take it to his Twitter. People can demand as much button not-awesome as they want, but that is one of the guys who managed to get ME3 to be recognized as the retail game with the most potential of E3 2011 by an independent research team, and gathered more IGN page views than any other game.

This has nothing to do with Marketing and it's clear since the very title and the OP, this is another BSN whinefest. What Silverman thinks about the product has nothing to do with the developers. Everyone knows what Silverman's position is.

As long as he is not contributing to the misinformation of the consumer, you will just have to deal with his techniques which are apparently succesful, and not use it to throw around remarks about ME2, other games, as well as "doubting for ME3".

Well I'm not canceling my preorder just yet   and I understand that he's passionate in his job. However, he really needs to find a way to balance out his PR speak with less emphasis on what's cool and hip. To me, it comes off as pretentious and judging from the reaction on the CVG site, I'm not alone here.

Also, if he's not misinforming the consumer as you implied, what does that say about the interview?

[CroGamer002]

roflchoppaz wrote...

I thought Silverman was okay, just a bit silly.

Now?
Annoyingly cheesy.

Marketing - somehow very successful.

Fixed.

Modifié par Mesina2, 22 juillet 2011 - 09:21 .

[efrgfhnm_]

Well the thing is the PR department doesn't need to attract more RPG players, Mass Effect is already selling hugely well to that crowd.
The people they need to entice and persuade to buy their games are the ones who buy other franchises such as Gears, Halo and Assassin's Creed - which are all good games. COD isn't though
This makes sense, the PR department doesn't need to appeal to us, because we are already on this site, seeing all the RPG news and everything which is meant to appeal to us

[Massadonious1]

Savber100 wrote...
This guy might be exaggerating but everything he says has a kernel of truth and that's what disturbs me.

Maybe, but he still has as much to do with the actual programming and design of the game as their janitor. As annoying as all that "awesome button" stuff was, DA2 wasn't his fault.

Modifié par Massadonious1, 22 juillet 2011 - 09:45 .

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

Yes, i need more rpg element in ME3

[Icinix]

Mr Silverman just gets a tad bit excitable. Its what makes him good at his job - he's building it up to really aim the game at the shooter fanbase - fair enough - if it sells.

But from what I've seen of the videos, screenshots, etc. ME3 is looking to have the greater RPG depth (at least from a character upgrade level) than ME2. Thats a win for RPG.

What we need though, is something shown that isn't specifically there for marketing purposes.

Things like Ash in Armour, see some of the outcome of choices perhaps, see some of the non combat environments etc - whatever.

I've always agreed with you Terror about ME2's direction, but don't let that jade your ME3 opinion - particularly when we've only really had very early marketing to get the COD crowd going.

Edit: Yeah - and as a matter of fact Mr.Silverman. I care. I don't play ME for the shooter bits.

Modifié par Icinix, 22 juillet 2011 - 09:27 .

[HighMoon]

Phaedon wrote...



This is David Silverman wearing a Wrex suit and shouting "I AM KROGAN"

Oh Maker... *sigh*

[Phaedon]

Savber100 wrote...
Well I'm not canceling my preorder just yet   and I understand that he's passionate in his job. However, he really needs to find a way to balance out his PR speak with less emphasis on what's cool and hip. To me, it comes off as pretentious and judging from the reaction on the CVG site, I'm not alone here. 

Also, if he's not misinforming the consumer as you implied, what does that say about the interview?

Maybe he needs to tone down the hyping drive a bit, but I'd rather have him go crazy and yell "THIS GAME WILL BE SO AWESOME" while handing out awesome Mass Effect themed buttons to everyone than a bunch of forumites claiming to be so "hip and elite" and acting as if they are too cool for this marketing style. (Oh my *sigh* <.< button awesome *sigh* >.>)

It's OK to make fun of a company, I suppose, but a real person? Really? That's just sad.

Modifié par Phaedon, 22 juillet 2011 - 09:31 .

[Feanor_II]

Oh Silverman.... just remembering that interview where he bashed about the excess of details inte Circle Tower or Brecilian Forest.......

[Epantiras]

I've learnt NEVER to trust Bioware misleading marketing.

[Someone With Mass]

Phaedon wrote...

It's OK to make fun of a company, I suppose, but a real person? Really? That's just sad.

Then again, that costume looks pretty silly.

[CroGamer002]

Feanor_II wrote...

Oh Silverman.... just remembering that interview where he bashed about the excess of details inte Circle Tower or Brecilian Forest.......

I hate that quest!

[Phaedon]

Someone With Mass wrote...
Then again, that costume looks pretty silly.

But, but, it's Wrex!

[Jebel Krong]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

It's OK to make fun of a company, I suppose, but a real person? Really? That's just sad.

Then again, that costume looks pretty silly.

well props (for the first time) to him for having the balls to put that thing on. 

[Icinix]

Epantiras wrote...

I've learnt NEVER to trust Bioware misleading marketing.

Yeah - those Marilyn Manson DA trailers - I hadn't seen much of DAO prior to that, and dismissed it out of hand. It wasn't until later on and I started to see the meat of the game I took interest...turned out to be one of my favourite games of all time. 

[Icinix]

Jebel Krong wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

It's OK to make fun of a company, I suppose, but a real person? Really? That's just sad.

Then again, that costume looks pretty silly.

well props (for the first time) to him for having the balls to put that thing on. 

Quad.
Having the Quad to put that thing on.

[Jebel Krong]

Icinix wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

It's OK to make fun of a company, I suppose, but a real person? Really? That's just sad.

Then again, that costume looks pretty silly.

well props (for the first time) to him for having the balls to put that thing on. 

Quad.
Having the Quad to put that thing on.

if he actually had a quad, i'd give him props for a second time... 

[Massadonious1]

It's not bad, all things considered. Krogan are intended to be lumbering mountains, something most humans can't pull off.

Modifié par Massadonious1, 22 juillet 2011 - 09:38 .

[didymos1120]

Adanu wrote...
 Bioware, you need to fire this person and put in someone who actually understands the series. I'm adopting a heavy wait and see response for ME3 with this guy at the helm.

You do realize he doesn't actually work on the game right?  Or dictate what the game is or is not?  Look, if you haven't learned not to treat what PR folk say as some sort of gospel by now, I don't know what to tell you. 

Modifié par didymos1120, 22 juillet 2011 - 09:48 .

[Phaedon]

didymos1120 wrote...
You do realize he doesn't actually work on the game right?  Or dictate what the game is or is not?  Look, if you haven't learned to not to treat what PR folk say as some sort of gospel by now, I don't know what to tell you.  

But didymos, let's fire people! Firing people is fun! It's not like there's a lot of unemployment or that these guys have families. Fire, fire, fire!

Modifié par Phaedon, 22 juillet 2011 - 09:47 .

[didymos1120]

Phaedon wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
You do realize he doesn't actually work on the game right?  Or dictate what the game is or is not?  Look, if you haven't learned to not to treat what PR folk say as some sort of gospel by now, I don't know what to tell you.  

But didymos, let's fire people! Firing people is fun! It's not like there's a lot of unemployment or that these guys have families. Fire, fire, fire!

SILVERMANS EVERYWHERE! GO! GO! GO!

[JRCHOharry]

Sounds awesome. Can't wait for the game!