marshalleck wrote...
Interesting, two different people in the space of a minute respond to me about how an inventory is merely a list of goods according to dictionary definitions. So I assume that's the new agreed upon kool-aid consensus?
No, because you see, there are some people who value opinions,marshalleck wrote...
Interesting, two different people in the space of a minute respond to me about how an inventory is merely a list of goods according to dictionary definitions. So I assume that's the new agreed upon kool-aid consensus?
Modifié par Phaedon, 22 juillet 2011 - 11:09 .
Lumikki wrote...
Will be in ME3. Not sure the last one..GodWood wrote...
Armor mods
Choice of armor for companions
Armor mods for companions
Modifié par Someone With Mass, 22 juillet 2011 - 11:09 .
Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
Interesting, two different people in the space of a minute respond to me about how an inventory is merely a list of goods according to dictionary definitions. So I assume that's the new agreed upon kool-aid consensus?
I'm guessing that you define Inventory as a 1-stop item shop?
Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 22 juillet 2011 - 11:11 .
I agree that ME inventory system was a crap..... but I wouldn't say that it fixed on ME2 but removed.... only two-three weapons in each category (except heavy weapons and not counting DLCs) were one wass the crappy one to start the game with and the other the bad, when you got the "good one" it was done, equip all members with that. You say in another post that in ME1 we were looking invetory every 10 seconds, but in ME2 i think I only had ta take a look 10 times ¡or less!Also, Mass Effect never had complex, deep RPG mechanics. The inventory was cluttered, chaotic, and annoying to keep track of. That was fixed. The only other RPG elements that remained were karma (paragon/renegade) and the choice system. Karma and choices remained in ME2. They're still there in ME3. ME3 will have an expanded inventory system too, not as crazy as ME1's though. So, really, we have lost nothing.
I think that the inventory works better when it's decentralized. Gives incentive to talk to squadmates.Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
From what I can tell, ME2 scattered the Inventory around a bit...
In ME2 you had to go to where Mordin is... then you had to go to where Jacob is... then you had to go to your Captain's Quarters... and also press start or go into your private terminal to access everything.
Is the reforming consensus that most of that be in one place?
Modifié par Phaedon, 22 juillet 2011 - 11:13 .
Phaedon wrote...
I think that the inventory works better when it's decentralized. Gives incentive to talk to squadmates.Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
From what I can tell, ME2 scattered the Inventory around a bit...
In ME2 you had to go to where Mordin is... then you had to go to where Jacob is... then you had to go to your Captain's Quarters... and also press start or go into your private terminal to access everything.
Is the reforming consensus that most of that be in one place?
Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
From what I can tell, ME2 scattered the Inventory around a bit...
In ME2 you had to go to where Mordin is... then you had to go to where Jacob is... then you had to go to your Captain's Quarters... and also press start or go into your private terminal to access everything.
Is the reforming consensus that most of that be in one place?
Again, what makes you think ME3 is going to have any actual "deep rpg elements" when you claim at the same time these don't sell?Lumikki wrote...
Compare what kind of GAME ME3 will be and it's target customer base. How you sell it to increase you customer base is important. If you really think it's better selling ME3 as advertise it's "deep" RPG elements then what I can I say than smile.
Given that according to opinions stated in this thread this translates to "shallow rpg" -> "shallower rpg" -> "deeper rpg" yes. There doesn't seem to be any direction here to speak of, much less a clear one.ME1 -> ME2 -> ME3, direction unclear to anyone?
That's not what I remember to have happenned in the RPG Elements thread. I'd say it was the exact opposite.Remus Artega wrote...
Marschalleck this It's like talking to an oak...they keep derailing every talk about RPG elements to the simple mindset being that every RPG positive fan wants unchanged ME1 system back which is completely false thinking...You say how to improve them from ME1 and then Phaedon or one of his his minions appear and say no ME1 system is bad...
Modifié par Phaedon, 22 juillet 2011 - 11:16 .
marshalleck wrote...
Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
From what I can tell, ME2 scattered the Inventory around a bit...
In ME2 you had to go to where Mordin is... then you had to go to where Jacob is... then you had to go to your Captain's Quarters... and also press start or go into your private terminal to access everything.
Is the reforming consensus that most of that be in one place?
Oh, I see what you mean.
That would certainly make it more accessible, which I think would be an improvement, yes.
Terror_K wrote...
http://www.computera...ure-y-than-me2/
Seriously... as an RPG fan, are these comments from David Silverman of marketing supposed to be encouraging? The more he says, the more he seems to make me more skeptical and worry about ME3's overall direction and focus, as well as BioWare as a whole:
--SNIP --
Modifié par termokanden, 22 juillet 2011 - 11:19 .
That's incorrect. The weapons in ME1 had different appearance based on their manufacturer and model.Phaedon wrote...
Well, all weapons in the in ME1 feel, sound and look the same
zollace wrote...
Terror_K wrote...
http://www.computera...ure-y-than-me2/
Seriously... as an RPG fan, are these comments from David Silverman of marketing supposed to be encouraging? The more he says, the more he seems to make me more skeptical and worry about ME3's overall direction and focus, as well as BioWare as a whole:
--SNIP --
Oh look! A conclusion!
/jumps
Well, yes and no.termokanden wrote...
You don't have to go to your individual squadmates in ME2 to equip anything. There's one place where you pick weapons for everyone, one place where you can change squadmate appearances, and one place where you can pick your own armor pieces. You don't go talk to Jack for example if you want her to use a specific weapon.
2 models per weapon type, and then a few reskins.tmp7704 wrote...
That's incorrect. The weapons in ME1 had different appearance based on their manufacturer and model.Phaedon wrote...
Well, all weapons in the in ME1 feel, sound and look the same
Modifié par Phaedon, 22 juillet 2011 - 11:21 .
tmp7704 wrote...
That's incorrect. The weapons in ME1 had different appearance based on their manufacturer and model.Phaedon wrote...
Well, all weapons in the in ME1 feel, sound and look the same
I never thinked that ME3 has any deep rpg elements. It was you who assumed that I think so. As selling (marketing) "deep RPG elements" in game what isn't even classic RPG. You still wonder why I'm laughing it as marketing idea?tmp7704 wrote...
Again, what makes you think ME3 is going to have any actual "deep rpg elements" when you claim at the same time these don't sell?Lumikki wrote...
Compare what kind of GAME ME3 will be and it's target customer base. How you sell it to increase you customer base is important. If you really think it's better selling ME3 as advertise it's "deep" RPG elements then what I can I say than smile.
Look above and try use you brain again.Given that according to opinions stated in this thread this translates to "shallow rpg" -> "shallower rpg" -> "deeper rpg" yes. There doesn't seem to be any direction here to speak of, much less a clear one.ME1 -> ME2 -> ME3, direction unclear to anyone?
Modifié par Lumikki, 22 juillet 2011 - 11:24 .
JulioC95 wrote...
More freedom of exploration - Citadel should be like the ME1 version. Mako. Several routes to the same place.Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
Does anyone want to list what ME1 did RPG-wise that you guys want back that hasn't been confirmed to return?
termokanden wrote...
Don't they just have different colors? It's not really a big difference in any case.
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