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[Addai]

termokanden wrote...
My NCR character had the idea that at least you could turn the NCR into something positive. They aren't altruistic or anything, but they at least have the potential of being somewhat tolerable.

But the thing is you can't turn the NCR into anything- that's the tragedy of Chief Hanlon's story.  They're a bureaucratic juggernaut and any change that happens will either be through civil war or assassination.  I actually think you do more for the NCR by bopping their nose at Hoover Dam.  They are so focused on getting new territory that they're overextended- not just in the Mojave but in Baja as well- and the leadership doesn't see that they're slowly unraveling.  If they lose at Hoover Dam, they will be shocked into dealing with problems at home rather than militaristic booyah.  They can still get access to some resources in the Mojave, they'll just have to trade for them rather than annex them.

[android654]

Couldn't blow up Megaton either. Got too attached to it.

*SQUEE* I had no idea there were so many people I loved that worked on NV as the VA's.

[Rockworm503]

Point Lookout used to be my favorite Fallout DLC until I started up Old World Blues. Its to early to say 100% as I haven't done Lonesome Road but the humor here is the best I've seen in a game in a long time. My nephew warned me that there was a lot of dialog at the start but he didn't tell me how funny it was. That was some of the longest talking since MGS4 but unlike MGS4 it was fun.
This is my 3rd playthrough with all the DLC installed so I'll get all the New Vegas this time. Had Dead Money already and thought it was pretty good. Did Honest Hearts and thought it was dull as watching paint dry. Was happy to have that one over first.

[Jvolikas]

Glad to see this thread, the Skyrim hijack got me interested in this game again after I put it down for a while (picked it up last summer for $10 from BestBuy and then set it down in November, but getting back to it now).

I currently have a level 30 (no DLC) Courier whos done a pretty heavy bit of exploring and has the endgame quests ready to go. I think I'm gonna go with NCR for this guy (he's done a pretty good bit of NCR work so far) since I cant side with the Legion and House/Independent don't quite fit (I've been a good guy for the most part making peace wherever I can. I killed that fink Benny though) with this Courier but I may do the end 3 times over just to see. Skill wise I've been primarily into Speech, INT/Luck/STR, Science, and Guns/EW's for the most part. Not much Melee or Unarmed combat skill to speak of.

Anyway, I'm reallly looking forward to starting up a new playthrough after this. I want to go through defending Goodsprings again and explore the Mojave once more. Will probably make the new character more Melee focused but there's so many great guns that it's hard to ignore.

I do have a random question though that I hope somebody else here experienced. I need to recruit Raul to get the all companions achievement. I did the Black Mountain quest months ago and freed Raul but didn't recruit him right there since I had Boone with me. Raul said he was going back to his shack near the Nellis Air Force base and I figured I could recruit him there at some point. However, I went there yesterday and couldn't find him. He wasn't at Black Mountain still either. Anybody know where he might have turned up?

Modifié par Jvolikas, 29 mai 2012 - 10:29 .

[Barbarossa2010]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Point Lookout used to be my favorite Fallout DLC until I started up Old World Blues. Its to early to say 100% as I haven't done Lonesome Road but the humor here is the best I've seen in a game in a long time. My nephew warned me that there was a lot of dialog at the start but he didn't tell me how funny it was. That was some of the longest talking since MGS4 but unlike MGS4 it was fun.
This is my 3rd playthrough with all the DLC installed so I'll get all the New Vegas this time. Had Dead Money already and thought it was pretty good. Did Honest Hearts and thought it was dull as watching paint dry. Was happy to have that one over first.

Preach on...I agree.  Was totally into the dark dread of Dead Money, ground my way through Honest Hearts, since Joshua Graham turned out to be rather meh in light of all the build up; but come OWB...it simply was a better game as just DLC than most games published today for me.  Lonesome Road was a fitting end for the Courier imo.  I actually liked Ulysses, despite everything I thought he was going to be...and won't spoil any of it for you.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 29 mai 2012 - 10:50 .

[Barbarossa2010]

Jvolikas wrote...

Glad to see this thread, the Skyrim hijack got me interested in this game again after I put it down for a while (picked it up last summer for $10 from BestBuy and then set it down in November, but getting back to it now).

I currently have a level 30 (no DLC) Courier whos done a pretty heavy bit of exploring and has the endgame quests ready to go. I think I'm gonna go with NCR for this guy (he's done a pretty good bit of NCR work so far) since I cant side with the Legion and House/Independent don't quite fit (I've been a good guy for the most part making peace wherever I can. I killed that fink Benny though) with this Courier but I may do the end 3 times over just to see. Skill wise I've been primarily into Speech, INT/Luck/STR, Science, and Guns/EW's for the most part. Not much Melee or Unarmed combat skill to speak of.

Anyway, I'm reallly looking forward to starting up a new playthrough after this. I want to go through defending Goodsprings again and explore the Mojave once more. Will probably make the new character more Melee focused but there's so many great guns that it's hard to ignore.

I do have a random question though that I hope somebody else here experienced. I need to recruit Raul to get the all companions achievement. I did the Black Mountain quest months ago and freed Raul but didn't recruit him right there since I had Boone with me. Raul said he was going back to his shack near the Nellis Air Force base and I figured I could recruit him there at some point. However, I went there yesterday and couldn't find him. He wasn't at Black Mountain still either. Anybody know where he might have turned up?

Do you have the suite at the Lucky 38?

[Rockworm503]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Point Lookout used to be my favorite Fallout DLC until I started up Old World Blues. Its to early to say 100% as I haven't done Lonesome Road but the humor here is the best I've seen in a game in a long time. My nephew warned me that there was a lot of dialog at the start but he didn't tell me how funny it was. That was some of the longest talking since MGS4 but unlike MGS4 it was fun.
This is my 3rd playthrough with all the DLC installed so I'll get all the New Vegas this time. Had Dead Money already and thought it was pretty good. Did Honest Hearts and thought it was dull as watching paint dry. Was happy to have that one over first.

Preach on...I agree.  Was totally into the dark dread of Dead Money, ground my way through Honest Hearts, since Joshua Graham turned out to be rather meh in light of all the build up; but come OWB...it simply was a better game as just DLC than most games published today for me.  Lonesome Road was a fitting end for the Courier imo.  I actually liked Ulysses, despite everything I thought he was going to be...and won't spoil any of it for you.

Fitting end?  Does that mean I should wait till I"m almost done with the game (or after since i have the mod that lets me continue after the end.)?

[Leinadi]

Nordicus wrote...

Leinadi wrote...

What better reason could there possibly be?

Mine would be that you get to assassinate the NCR President, using any methods you see fit.

How I did it? Throwing Knife to the head from a faraway sniper tower

Hehe, yeah. That is actually one of my absolute favorite quests in the game, just such a great freedom there. You can go with the *numerous* pre-planned approaches (using explosives on the Vertibird for example) or just do it completely freeform. It's a fantastic quest.

Heh, I like Ulysses but it's good they made all sorts of options.  Really they just needed one female from the Legion civilian areas to show up, tell you what a good life she has, that might have at least made it not so uniformly dismal.

It might be fun to rp a Powder Ganger.  Maybe your cousin Rufus was killed in the prison break and now you have a vendetta against the NCR.

I just don't personally enjoy for-the-lulz evil characters.  Didn't even blow up Megaton in FO3, though I watched the spouse do so 

I typically don't enjoy "for the lulz" characters either as you put it. But NV in particular does get me going a lot in the character creation process. Now, I'd be hard pressed to create a female that's completely... sane, who also ends up supporting the Legion (as we see it in game). But it seems to me that you can still create a serious character from that, who just isn't completely sane. Naive idealism that they can change the Legion? A vendetta against Caesar, waiting for the right moment to assassinate him? A strong vendetta against the NCR, and seeing the Legion as a tool to get revenge? Just good ol' regular low intelligence character? Someone who got their brains too scrambled from the bullets at the start of the game?

I think there are many angles for a character  who supports the Legion, even if they have to be slightly "extreme" so to speak.

Fitting end?  Does that mean I should wait till I"m almost done with the game (or after since i have the mod that lets me continue after the end.)? 

I think Lonesome Road feels best if it's played almost right before the final battle at Hoover Dam. Wouldn't play it after since it kinda foreshadows some things in the battle (and moreso depending on certain chocies you make in it).

As far as the DLCs go, I think I'm the odd man out when saying that Old World Blues was my least favorite. I really did not like the gameplay of it with extremely annoying enemies, terrible spawns, repeating quests and a main quest that was basically a fetch quest (Honest Hearts often take a lot of hits for having fetch quests, but OWB has them as well though maybe more cleverly "hidden"). It is very funny however, and you see the darkness of it all in the final sections of it. But it still felt a bit too lulzy for me and whilst it's very connected to Dead Money and Lonesome Road in particular, it feels like the odd man out because the tone of it is so different.

Modifié par Leinadi, 29 mai 2012 - 11:01 .

[Addai]

All the DLCs have some of the best game storytelling I've come across. Honest Hearts was a fairly blah tribal conflict until you come across the Survivalist letters and realize how this connects to its main story. As an exploration of religion in the Wasteland I thought it was brilliant, besides being a beautiful setting.

Dead Money with its companion characters and main story was pretty awesome, but the moral taught by the final challenge- "Just let go"- is the best story-through-gameplay I've seen.

I also like Ulysses and find his role as the Courier's shadow nemesis/ potential mentor very cool.

Can't say enough about this really. The DLCs elevated the game from fun to something special for me. I also think it's great how everything ties together somehow, and ties to the base game, without the feeling that they stripped content out of the game just to make money on DLC.

Although speaking of the Legion, Ulysses was originally meant to have been a pro-Legion companion in the base game and that also got changed, leaving the Legion a bit out in the cold in terms of positive story light.  I guess they decided that Ulysses had better story potential as a shadowy figure- and I think they were right about that.

Modifié par Addai67, 29 mai 2012 - 11:08 .

[termokanden]

Addai67 wrote...

But the thing is you can't turn the NCR into anything- that's the tragedy of Chief Hanlon's story.  They're a bureaucratic juggernaut and any change that happens will either be through civil war or assassination.  I actually think you do more for the NCR by bopping their nose at Hoover Dam.  They are so focused on getting new territory that they're overextended- not just in the Mojave but in Baja as well- and the leadership doesn't see that they're slowly unraveling.  If they lose at Hoover Dam, they will be shocked into dealing with problems at home rather than militaristic booyah.  They can still get access to some resources in the Mojave, they'll just have to trade for them rather than annex them.

Well that was the background for my NCR character anyway. I couldn't make one that blindly believed the NCR is fine as it is.

I'd still rather fight for that lost cause than join the Legion.

Ultimately the independent path is what felt "best" to me. But my NCR playthrough was still a lot of fun.

Modifié par termokanden, 29 mai 2012 - 11:15 .

[Barbarossa2010]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Point Lookout used to be my favorite Fallout DLC until I started up Old World Blues. Its to early to say 100% as I haven't done Lonesome Road but the humor here is the best I've seen in a game in a long time. My nephew warned me that there was a lot of dialog at the start but he didn't tell me how funny it was. That was some of the longest talking since MGS4 but unlike MGS4 it was fun.
This is my 3rd playthrough with all the DLC installed so I'll get all the New Vegas this time. Had Dead Money already and thought it was pretty good. Did Honest Hearts and thought it was dull as watching paint dry. Was happy to have that one over first.

Preach on...I agree.  Was totally into the dark dread of Dead Money, ground my way through Honest Hearts, since Joshua Graham turned out to be rather meh in light of all the build up; but come OWB...it simply was a better game as just DLC than most games published today for me.  Lonesome Road was a fitting end for the Courier imo.  I actually liked Ulysses, despite everything I thought he was going to be...and won't spoil any of it for you.

Fitting end?  Does that mean I should wait till I"m almost done with the game (or after since i have the mod that lets me continue after the end.)?

Actually I'm probably viewing that through the lens of it being the last DLC, all of which I had been playing sequentially as they were released.  I had actually finished the game and defeated the Legion at Hoover Dam prior to playing Dead Money, which I reverted to a save just prior to the Dam to complete.  Same for HH, OWB and LR.  So, for me, LR was the "end." 

I recommend waiting to complete LR...or at least complete it last of all the DLCs.  It's really the end of the DLC storylines, which are told in parallel with the NV main story.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 30 mai 2012 - 12:19 .

[Jvolikas]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...


Do you have the suite at the Lucky 38?

I do now, but I didn't when doing the Black Mountain quest so he wouldn't have gone to the Lucky 38.  I think he must be in his shack and I just missed him somehow

[Barbarossa2010]

I swear officer, I'm innocent.  It's not what it seems.  These three grannies attacked ME...

What am I armed with? ...well, a 12-guage shotgun of course...Boone over there carries a .308 sniper rifle...and oh, ED-E is armed to the teeth with lasers.

What were the ol' spinsters attacking me and my crew with?...um...well...uh...rolling pins.


Thus endeth the violent criminal careers of Irate Ida, Rancorous Ruth and Malefic Maud.

That's what I get for taking the Wild Wasteland trait back at Doc Mitchell's it seems. 

[Barbarossa2010]

I'm starting to have way too many crashes to desktop. Not unmanageable at present, as I hard save quite often, but it's starting to become slightly irritating.

Any advice, before it becomes full-fledge irritating?

[Addai]

I have no CTDs, not sure what could be causing it. Do you have any graphics mods or big overhauls like the one that renovates the Strip? I avoid those because they made the game so laggy and crashy that they weren't worth it.

[Barbarossa2010]

Don't have any mods on NV yet. That, of course, will change soon, but none as of right now. I have gone back through my save list and cleaned it out thoroughly. We'll see if that might be the culprit. No crash as of yet, having done that. Working with one active save right now. Things appear a bit sharper in performance. Could be my imagination though.

[Addai]

Are you patched up? The patches really helped our game. Other than that, dunno. It's been running very stable for me.

[Barbarossa2010]

Seems I got the game fairly stable by cleaning out my save files. 
Thought I'd post this one.  Funny...I guess I just never realized how big the Boss Deathclaws actually were:

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 08 juin 2012 - 09:24 .

[Addai]

Ouch! I ventured into the Courier's Mile, only to back straight out as we got massed by Irradiated Deathclaws (I had Boone and ED-E with me thanks to a mod). The wiki recommends bringing lots of stealthboys.

[Barbarossa2010]

Courier's Mile is just a world of pain. Fighting high-level enemies AND extreme radiation. I had to back out a few times until I had a workable strategy.

If I recall correctly, there was a ton of Rad-Away in containers the further you venture in.

[naughty99]

Excited to get back to New Vegas at some point this year. I've been waiting to do all the DLC content.

[RedArmyShogun]

Its really too bad we had no fallout 4 news at E3. But oh well.

[VoiceOfPudding]

Confess-A-Bear wrote...

Its really too bad we had no fallout 4 news at E3. But oh well.

I'm both really looking forward to it's announcement and dreading it. Not to turn this thread into a beth vs obsidian fiasco but I feel that bethesda just can't divert away from their tried and tested TES formula to make a good fallout game. In any case, I'm pretty sure the announcement won't come until closer to the release of the next-gen consoles.

EDIT: Also seeing this thread has made me want Fallout again so firing up Fallout 1 now. Anyone got interesting builds?

Modifié par VoiceOfPudding, 09 juin 2012 - 12:09 .

[RedArmyShogun]

Which both Sony and MS still have the mindset of "lol not till 2015"