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[Barbarossa2010]

Yeah, I was reading some of the ways to get one other than allowing Hanlon to off himself or sneak killing a veteran. Pickpocketing one is virtually impossible, well, except for the most extremely skilled, and the bizarre ways of taking one from a vet seem...so...I don't know...contrived(?)...and just wrong.

Eh, it's all just my continued frustration with not being able to join the Rangers.

I'm with you Addai, Hanlon's got it right for the most part. I have more in common with him as an independent that I ever did as a loyalist.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 30 décembre 2013 - 09:28 .

[Joy Divison]

I know somebody probably explained this to me and at one time I knew, but the title of this thread reconfused me.

What's the difference between Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas?  In this thread, are the discussions weaving between both games and people are just so familiar with them everyone call follow along seamlessly?

I ask bc/ Steam has a sale on something called Fallout:New Vegas Ultimate Edition for like $7.
They also have Fallout 3: GAme of the Year edition for $20.

I'm still in the middle of a Skyrim playthrough, but if that Ultimate edition has all the bells, whistles, and dlcs that make for a complete Fallout gaming experience (think Skyrim+dawnguard+dragonborn but not necessarily Oblivion), I will grab it now and play it later bc/ I think the sale ends in like 20 hours.

But I want to make sure I know what I'm buying and not learn later that I have to spend $20 for something that didnt come in the Ulimate edition.

[happy_daiz]

Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas are separate games. Fallout 3 (2008) was done by Bethesda, and New Vegas (2010) was by Obsidian.

And yeah, I think we've all played each of them so many times that we can weave back and forth between the two. You'll be able to do it as well, don't worry.
 
I'd say buy both the Fallout 3 GOTY and Fallout New Vegas UE, and you'll have all of your bases covered.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 30 décembre 2013 - 09:46 .

[Joy Divison]

Well, they don't pay historians enough to just buy what I want

Does that New Vegas UE include everything Obsidian released that is worth having in the game?  If so I'll get it.

[happy_daiz]

^ Yep, the New Vegas UE should include all the DLCs:

Honest Hearts
Dead Money
Old World Blues
The Lonesome Road
Gun Runner's Arsenal
Courier's Stash

I think you should buy both sets, though. But I'm partial to both FO3 and FO:NV.

Let us know when you start playing, and we'll be here for support!

Modifié par happy_daiz, 30 décembre 2013 - 10:00 .

[Joy Divison]

Ok, so looks like I'll be hopping blind into the Fallout series with its most recent release ... just like I did with the Elder Scrolls.

I guess this means I'm a follower as opposed to a trendsetter when it comes to games

Now, I just need to know if there is an Eola type quest that you do eery game that I just have to experience myself and small, select list of mods that are mandatory.

Modifié par Joy Divison, 30 décembre 2013 - 10:03 .

[happy_daiz]

There are so many. Like with Skyrim, a lot of side stories are found through exploration. For instance, the vaults will each have their own purpose/theme/story. I've always found the stories within each one to be particularly interesting.
 
It's also why I recommend FO3 - because in that, you actually start the game in Vault 101. You start at birth, then at age 10, and again around 16...anyway, the idea and mindset of being in a vault just seems natural after starting off there. Then when you finally head out into the wasteland, that feeling of being alone, and in danger, can be overwhelming. The vastness of the land really hits you.

Some of the vaults out there are hella terrifying (to me). Especially Vault 22, with those spore things. That particular one is in New Vegas.

But let me think on that. There are lots of amazing quests. And Obsidian did a tremendous job of tying everything together between the vanilla game and the add-ons in NV. The best way is to just take your time, and explore.

As for mods, pc users will have to help you there.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 30 décembre 2013 - 10:31 .

[In Exile]

Joy Divison wrote...

Well, they don't pay historians enough to just buy what I want

Does that New Vegas UE include everything Obsidian released that is worth having in the game?  If so I'll get it.

The one thing to keep in mind is that FN:NV is not like a Bestheda game very much. It's an Obsidian game, and once you get past the FPS interface, it plays like an isometric RPG in terms of writing, quest structure, etc. Your character is a blank object with no personality and no recognition in the world as an independent person, but the characters are very rich, the setting is phenomenal and varied, and there's a relatively simplistic faction mechanic that - because of well-scripted and diverse quests  - makes the world feel very alive in the sense that it's populated by thinking people. 

From a setting/interact with the world perspective New Vegas is a lot more like playing DA:O than Skyrim, the actual gameplay mechanic aside. 

Modifié par In Exile, 30 décembre 2013 - 10:38 .

[Cutlass Jack]

Joy Divison wrote...

Well, they don't pay historians enough to just buy what I want

Does that New Vegas UE include everything Obsidian released that is worth having in the game?  If so I'll get it.

The Ultimate Edition includes all the DLC. Highly reccomended. Especially at the current steam sale price. At $6, even a Historian can afford it.

The DLCs are especially good in this game. Some of the best I've played in any game.

Its self contained so you don't have to have played any other Fallout to enjoy it.

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 30 décembre 2013 - 11:15 .

[Joy Divison]

OK thanks for the feedback. Purchased. I'll bow away from the thread for a bit so i can have my first run relatively spoiler free.  I guess the one last question I'll ask is if anyone has any "I wish I knew that when I first started" advice.

Modifié par Joy Divison, 30 décembre 2013 - 11:24 .

[happy_daiz]

Well, I have an easy one - when you leave Goodsprings for the first time, head South. I made the mistake of taking the Westernmost road, heading North, and, well...died.

And the usual 'save often'.

One nice thing about NV is that your followers don't die; they're just knocked unconscious if their health gets too low. They'll jump back up after a certain amount of time.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 30 décembre 2013 - 11:50 .

[In Exile]

Joy Divison wrote...

OK thanks for the feedback. Purchased. I'll bow away from the thread for a bit so i can have my first run relatively spoiler free.  I guess the one last question I'll ask is if anyone has any "I wish I knew that when I first started" advice.

Exploring too much off the beaten path, IMO, has you lose the kind of rich narrative experience you can get by going through towns and getting quests to explore the areas you'll end up in. Obsidian has multiple triggers for quests that take you to different places across the map to trigger more quests, some of which are just plain brilliant. 

[In Exile]

happy_daiz wrote...
One nice thing about NV is that your followers don't die; they're just knocked unconscious if their health gets too low. They'll jump back up after a certain amount of time.

Are you sure? Because I often get "companion X has died" and lose their perk. Maybe it's because I only play on Hardcore mode? 

[Giggles_Manically]

So I know the nexus has lots of really cool mods.

What I did not know is that there were other sites to get mods. Some of those mods....


Seriously what is wrong with people!
Some of those mods make me want to roll for sanity

[Mr.House]

In Exile wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...
One nice thing about NV is that your followers don't die; they're just knocked unconscious if their health gets too low. They'll jump back up after a certain amount of time.

Are you sure? Because I often get "companion X has died" and lose their perk. Maybe it's because I only play on Hardcore mode? 

They can die in Hardcore mode.

[Barbarossa2010]

@Joy: a couple of useful tips out the gate.

Don't play on Hardcore your first time!

1. You will wake up at Doc Mitchell's. Be sure to take whatever you can from his house. There are a few stimpaks laying about, but since I was in such a darn hurry I didn't bother to notice. "Explore" it,"nothing is classified as owned, so you won't be stealing. 

2. Use Victor's shack as a temp residence. It will be awhile before you'll have a place to call your own. You can sleep there and store loot in his ammo cans and not have to carry a ton of crap around.

3. Stay in Goodsprings for a bit and learn some basics. Everything in Goodsprings is fairly low key, low threat and tutorial-ish.

4. Talk to Sunny Smiles. She will tutor you through a few things, to include your first "combat" encounters. Use VATS while you're with her to get a feel for it.

5. When you leave Goodsprings, head south (NOT north, Happy is absolutely correct in that!). Generally follow your quest log, staying on the beaten path for while. Deep exploration can come later as you become more comfortable with combat.

6. With the DLCs loaded, you'll start off with functional armor and a decent weapon, so you don't have to worry about basic equipment for some time.

Most of all have fun and let it all wash over you. Take your time, its a new world out there.  And remember, there is plenty of game that can be explored over multiple runs. When you're ready to start modding the game, there will be plenty of assistance available.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 31 décembre 2013 - 01:43 .

[Cutlass Jack]

In Exile wrote...

Are you sure? Because I often get "companion X has died" and lose their perk. Maybe it's because I only play on Hardcore mode? 

Yeah that's Harcore mode. I love Hardcore mode so much except for that one detail. Luckily I'm on the PC, so I was able to mod so that didn't happen.

[happy_daiz]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

In Exile wrote...

Are you sure? Because I often get "companion X has died" and lose their perk. Maybe it's because I only play on Hardcore mode? 

Yeah that's Harcore mode. I love Hardcore mode so much except for that one detail. Luckily I'm on the PC, so I was able to mod so that didn't happen.

I don't play anything in Hardcore mode.  So yeah, that's for Normal.

@Joy - with the UE, and all the DLC, you'll find the DLC map markers like any other location. You might want to consult the wiki before taking any of those on, to see the recommended level. I'd wait until level 30, unless you're feeling pretty badass. The ones to look out for are the ones that prompt you with a message that says something about being gone for a while, and not being able to return. They're at far corners of the map, more or less.

Oh, and stay on the roads if you can. Otherwise...Cazadores.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 31 décembre 2013 - 02:05 .

[Mr.House]

Each dlc will give you a warning before you start it with it's recommended lvl.

[Addai]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Heh, pissing off a ranger just to swipe his career-crowning sidearm. It's so sneaky.

I know. I'd never do that. Honest. I just perfected all the above techniques so that I could steal from the elderly. (Specifically to get Big Boomer away from Old Lady Gibson)

Oh, that sounds like a plan. I use Thump Thump, but it's only effective half the time. There's a bug where it won't cause any damage at all sometimes. How frustrating was that when I just pissed off a bunch of ghouls who swarmed me afterwards. Happens with MFC grenades sometimes, too. When it does work, it's a lot of fun to send legion assassins flying through the air with their limbs de-attached.

InExile wrote...
The one thing to keep in mind is that FN:NV is not like a Bestheda game very much.

*snip*

From a setting/interact with the world perspective New Vegas is a lot more like playing DA:O than Skyrim, the
actual gameplay mechanic aside.

See, I think Skyrim is more like FNV than Fallout 3. They learned a lot in the meantime. Things like crafting and companions in Skyrim are much closer to FNV than past iterations of both franchises.

And Joy, I don't think you can go wrong with FNV. I like both games- and man, do I miss Fallout 3 - but FNV is a great game.

Modifié par Addai67, 31 décembre 2013 - 05:09 .

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

So I know the nexus has lots of really cool mods.

What I did not know is that there were other sites to get mods. Some of those mods....


Seriously what is wrong with people!
Some of those mods make me want to roll for sanity

You have my sympathies. Some mods are plain stupid or pervert.

I find a pretty companion... but she speaks telepathically (just few words voice acting)!

[Cutlass Jack]

happy_daiz wrote...

I don't play anything in Hardcore mode.  So yeah, that's for Normal.

Heh. Hardcore mode is really poorly named. Since its not the difficulty setting, thats different. But it adds alot of survival type game mechanics that make it feel more like an rpg to me. Eating, drinking, sleeping, etc. Makes the survival skill and cooking much more useful.

The only bad thing about it (in my humblish opinon) is the aforementeioned companion death.

[In Exile]

Mr.House wrote...
They can die in Hardcore mode.

Ah. Makes sense. Not that I care, since it's just the thing I re-load the very few (rare) times that happened. 

Addai67 wrote...
See, I think Skyrim is more like FNV than Fallout 3. They learned a lot in the meantime. Things like crafting and companions in Skyrim are much closer to FNV than past iterations of both franchises.

I didn't really feel much of a difference between the two, tbh. There's more depth in Skyrim to the companions, but they're not fully realized people - they just have a few lines and that's about it. Selina from Dawnguard, I suppose, is closer to an FNV companion. 

[In Exile]

Cutlass Jack wrote...
Heh. Hardcore mode is really poorly named. Since its not the difficulty setting, thats different. But it adds alot of survival type game mechanics that make it feel more like an rpg to me. Eating, drinking, sleeping, etc. Makes the survival skill and cooking much more useful.

It's funny, I thought it would be hard, but unmodded, it really isn't. It's basically impossible to starve, die of dehydration or sleep deprivation. It does make you feel more like you're in a wasteland though, since when you scavage and find water and food it's actually a "woo!" moment and not a "that's BS, no good loot". 

[happy_daiz]

^ That's an interesting point. I can't tell you how many times I've scavenged or looted, and had my husband ask, 'why are you leaving that purified water?' (or junk food, etc.) In Normal mode, I don't need any of it.

I leave a lot of stuff, actually. Armor is so freaking heavy!

Last night, I dropped ED-E off with the Followers, picked up Rex, and put a target on a certain someone's head, to pick up Boone. It was a good night, overall.

I found an area in the SW part of the map that was just crawling with Deathclaws, and another on the Eastern side. Good lord, I don't remember seeing all that many at a time, since Quarry Junction. I swear, this run is heavy on Deathclaws and prospectors.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 31 décembre 2013 - 02:25 .