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Still slightly ontopic. I dont have the Honest Hearts DLC. Is there any dialogue/notes I may be missing in the run up to Lonesome Road?

Is it worth getting it? The price tag seems a bit steep for the content.

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I always get all the DLC for any game I like. Good or bad, I feel like it's still part of the game. There are quests that I don't like, but I do them anyway, because they are part of the game. The DLCs are just big quests. I don't like Dead Money that much, but I play it anyway.

Honest Harts, is a good DLC, in itself. There are good loot and rewards, along with a great addition to the story. It does tie into the main story, giving a background to the Burned Man and the beginning of Cesar and the Legion.

Pending your playstyle, you're looking at avg, 10-15 hrs of gametime. I play a slow and calculated Sniper character, investing 20+. Some reported under 5.

Hope this helps.

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Well I downloaded it anyway. I found one dialogue already so see what comes next  B)   Certainly getting me more in the mood


Oh and I had to restart after 45 minutes when I relised that the game was broke.  Apparently your not supposed to defend yourself at the start...  :unsure: :huh:

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Totally reminded me of Planescape: Torment crazy. Finding a piece of yourself that does not want re-attach, believes to have become something more (...or somewhere more) than it actually is... I bet Chris Avellone had that game in his mind the entire time.

I think Dead Money was way better, though. This was a nice show of how freaky Chris can get in writing for the Fallout series. I totally think he was trying to use a lot of the Planescape themes in Old World Blues. Although Honest Hearts had one of the most heart-wrenching endings (you lose in either one), the quests were pretty horrible. I thought Dead Money had the perfect balance of gameplay and storyline so it's my favorite DLC.

As for the Ulysses storyline, this game made me really want to see what his story is, and how it is connected to the Courier. I love how we had such a small impact, since we don't remember, yet Ulysses' entire persona was changed after that going from a bighorn farmer to a frumentarii. I wonder how he ended up serving Caesar, which could probably be proven by the fact that his name is very Latin now; although, his nationalist thinking certainly goes well with the Legion's beliefs. His voice acting is phenomenal, though, almost as close to Caesar's voice work. When I look at his picture, I can certainly imagine that melancholy voice added, perfect fit it seems.

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Captain Crash wrote...

Still slightly ontopic. I dont have the Honest Hearts DLC. Is there any dialogue/notes I may be missing in the run up to Lonesome Road?

Is it worth getting it? The price tag seems a bit steep for the content.


Old World Blues is definitely the most tied with Lonesome Road since you hear the most about Ulysses. I think it is worth every penny because of how much effort was put into the story. Fallout: 3's crap DLC was too much money for how little content and no effort was placed into its making. When you read some of Elijah's terminals, you can totally feel like you are in his shoes (especially that terminal which talks about a scope--don't want to spoil it, but it's epic). They have some brilliant writers in Obsidian. As for the content, the storyline is good, the new enemies are very challenging--especially the scorpions, the new weapons are okay--didn't like them too much, and the area is pretty big (a little smaller than Honest Hearts, though, I think). All in all, this is probably the best DLC for people who like overpowered loot and overly sci-fi themes.

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SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

Fallout: 3's crap DLC was too much money for how little content and no effort was placed into its making.

Have you played any of FO3's DLCs? Point Lookout alone has more content than all NV DLCs combined and introduced an entirely new, big area with new enemies, armour and weapons. There were also quite a few long sidequests that went beyond the "fetch X items to upgrade light switch Y" sidequests from Old World Blues.

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virumor wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

Fallout: 3's crap DLC was too much money for how little content and no effort was placed into its making.

Have you played any of FO3's DLCs? Point Lookout alone has more content than all NV DLCs combined and introduced an entirely new, big area with new enemies, armour and weapons. There were also quite a few long sidequests that went beyond the "fetch X items to upgrade light switch Y" sidequests from Old World Blues.

It's become very trendy to bash FO3, unfortunately.  As with Oblivion, it seems that actually playing it (or its DLCs) isn't necessary in order to make unhelpful comments.

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virumor wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

Fallout: 3's crap DLC was too much money for how little content and no effort was placed into its making.

Have you played any of FO3's DLCs? Point Lookout alone has more content than all NV DLCs combined and introduced an entirely new, big area with new enemies, armour and weapons. There were also quite a few long sidequests that went beyond the "fetch X items to upgrade light switch Y" sidequests from Old World Blues.


I would say NV dlc has way more content in it but that's just my opinion. Also a lot of Fallout 3's enemies were given ridiculus DR, HP and unblockable damage which really annoyed me.

I would have said overall that F3's DLC was good but Mothership Zeta just ruined it for me. I could get past the enemies and glitches but after Zeta I just gave up.

On topic I can't wait to meet Ulysses and see what's in the Divide.

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I'm pretty close to finishing up Old World Blues and I am having a great time with it...I think it may be the best DLC for any Game I've ever personally played because it does such a good job accomplishing exactly what it sets out to do...which I'll admit, leaves a ton of DLC's I've never played that can be used to counter my opinion...but it is purely a matter of taste so what I'm saying is subjective.

The "Upgrade" quests that virumor have mentioned are tied to larger areas that have a lot going for them all on their own...so it's not quite just "go find it in a place where nothing else is going on" and the "overly Sci-Fi themes" that SOLID_EVERST has mentioned are purely intentional, as a lot of it is a Parody of '50s era Science Fiction films...

I mean, you do wake up without your brain and end up having to find it so it can be put back in if you so choose.

It does have a lot of info strewn around it's setting that adds to the mystery of who Ulysses is as SOLID_EVEREST mentioned...really interesting stuff that does seem to pave the way for Lonesome Road (no pun intended)

Just my opinions, so I don't want anyone I mentioned to think I don't respect their take on things...

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virumor wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

Fallout: 3's crap DLC was too much money for how little content and no effort was placed into its making.

Have you played any of FO3's DLCs? Point Lookout alone has more content than all NV DLCs combined and introduced an entirely new, big area with new enemies, armour and weapons. There were also quite a few long sidequests that went beyond the "fetch X items to upgrade light switch Y" sidequests from Old World Blues.


Yes, sadly, I played all of Fallout: 3's trash DLC like hillbilly rampage (Point Lookout), corridor creep (Mothership Zeta), and the rest. I guess you are missing one of the most significant parts of the F:NV DLC, the C&C. Oh yeah, and I don't think that introducing a handful of caves, tribals, and hillbillies with no thought out storyline/purpose is all that significant.

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SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

virumor wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

Fallout: 3's crap DLC was too much money for how little content and no effort was placed into its making.

Have you played any of FO3's DLCs? Point Lookout alone has more content than all NV DLCs combined and introduced an entirely new, big area with new enemies, armour and weapons. There were also quite a few long sidequests that went beyond the "fetch X items to upgrade light switch Y" sidequests from Old World Blues.


Yes, sadly, I played all of Fallout: 3's trash DLC like hillbilly rampage (Point Lookout), corridor creep (Mothership Zeta), and the rest. I guess you are missing one of the most significant parts of the F:NV DLC, the C&C. Oh yeah, and I don't think that introducing a handful of caves, tribals, and hillbillies with no thought out storyline/purpose is all that significant.

Fair enough. It's just bias, then.

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I know this is fan-made, but I think this is worth to share.

Fallout: Nuka-Break, episode 1

I already can't wait for the next episode. Also, notice the Fallout New Vegas references. xD

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 30 août 2011 - 04:38 .


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Quick question about the additional levels the DLC's add:

Is the total Cap 35 or does each of the DLC's add 5 more levels to the total Cap?

I've only got OWB and the way they describe the others makes it a bit difficult to tell.

Modifié par Deathwurm, 30 août 2011 - 11:10 .


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Deathwurm wrote...

Quick question about the additional levels the DLC's add:

Is the total Cap 35 or does each of the DLC's add 5 more levels to the total Cap?

I've only got OWB and the way they describe the others makes it a bit difficult to tell.

Each DLC to date has added another five levels.  Dunno if the next one will do likewise, but I imagine so...

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Cool!
Thanks vometia...

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From the Wiki:
"In Fallout: New Vegas it's [the level cap] 30, 35 with one add-on, 40 with two add-ons, 45 with three add-ons, and 50 with four. Each add-on raises the level cap by 5 levels."

My Courier's standing at 45 at present (with all three add-ons), and am assuming, he'll get raised by 5 with LR.

OFF TOPIC: No matter one's opinions on the "quality" of FO3 DLCs, I think they are leagues beyond what Bioware is able to produce in sheer content [with one exception] (and yes, I know the difference between exploration-based and story-based).  But this really isn't the place to discuss it.

Back on topic: Great news on a 20 Sep release for LR!!  Also agree with you Deathwurm, OWB is the single best piece of DLC I've played in any game...pretty much why I started a thread topic for it! Image IPB

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 30 août 2011 - 03:59 .


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Honest Hearts does not reveal info about Ulysses as much as other dlcs do, however, Joshua does tell you something quite important perhaps. You also get some nice guns.

So far I totally love all NV dlcs. They all offered a lot of play time, fun and story into this game. My favourite one would probably be Dead Money.

Modifié par Romantiq, 30 août 2011 - 04:13 .


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I'm probably going to end up getting the other DLC's from what folks are describing...

Just a matter of figuring out which Bill to put off to pay for them! lol

Finished OWB a couple hours ago. Wow! Really cool ending! It does seem to lead very nicely into Lonesome Road...nothing I found essential, but adds a lot of info.

If you have OWB and plan to get Lonesome Road I suggest playing OWB first.

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Romantiq wrote...

Honest Hearts does not reveal info about Ulysses as much as other dlcs do, however, Joshua does tell you something quite important perhaps. You also get some nice guns.

So far I totally love all NV dlcs. They all offered a lot of play time, fun and story into this game. My favourite one would probably be Dead Money.


Originally i didn't like Dead Money but after playing it through a second time and knowing what to expect I decided that it was, in fact, ridiculously awesome - even the ending slides. Here's hoping LR is better still :D

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Teddie Sage wrote...

I know this is fan-made, but I think this is worth to share.

Fallout: Nuka-Break, episode 1

I already can't wait for the next episode. Also, notice the Fallout New Vegas references. xD


I think I remember reading somewhere that the guy (creator, idk) got all his information on Fallout's lore from Chris Avellone. That explains a lot of the references to New Vegas I would guess.

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 Wow thats amazing!  :o  :happy:

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VoiceOfPudding wrote...

Originally i didn't like Dead Money but after playing it through a second time and knowing what to expect I decided that it was, in fact, ridiculously awesome - even the ending slides. Here's hoping LR is better still :D


I bought all the DLCs for cheap during a Steam sale but hadn't bothered playing them since I heard alot of early complaints that Dead Money wasn't good. Finally played it about two weeks ago and I couldn't believe how good the Sierra Madre actually was. That was one nicely done DLC.

I'll be doing Honest Hearts and OWB soonish in prep for Lonesome Road. I'm really loving that they have some connecting references to the each other. Makes them into almost a second game/storyline unto themselves. I approve of that approach.

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vometia wrote...

Deathwurm wrote...

Quick question about the additional levels the DLC's add:

Is the total Cap 35 or does each of the DLC's add 5 more levels to the total Cap?

I've only got OWB and the way they describe the others makes it a bit difficult to tell.

Each DLC to date has added another five levels.  Dunno if the next one will do likewise, but I imagine so...


Or this command you can put in the dev console
SetGS iMaxCharacterLevel 99
It does act buggy at times just stopping and you have to rente it.
There is also a mod for level 100

The level cap didnt bother me untill I hit it and hadnever stepped foot in New Vegas and was long from the end of the story. Just didnt feel right not gaining exp for all the things I was doing :(

On that note I do like the new crafting and perks that come with the DLCs.

@Crash
HOnest Hearts is better for some expanded knowledge about Ceasers Legion. History and background.

Cutlass Jack wrote...


I bought all the DLCs for cheap during a Steam sale but hadn't bothered playing them since I heard alot of early complaints that Dead Money wasn't good. Finally played it about two weeks ago and I couldn't believe how good the Sierra Madre actually was. That was one nicely done DLC.


My only real gripe with DeadMoney was because the first character I went thru with was the run and gun badass. It really leans towards a Melee and stealthy character.

Modifié par addiction21, 01 septembre 2011 - 01:56 .


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I actually don't have much of a problem playing now that I'm also "capped out" as it were...most Games do get a bit boring for me when that happens, but there is so much more to NV than just advancing in Levels. The Challanges are a lot to keep me going and I have a long way to go Story-wise.

Oddly, I too have been playing for something like 190 hours now and still haven't been to the Strip either! lol

Modifié par Deathwurm, 01 septembre 2011 - 03:27 .


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addiction21 wrote...

*SNIP*
My only real gripe with DeadMoney was because the first character I went thru with was the run and gun badass. It really leans towards a Melee and stealthy character.


Yep, just like Old World Blues leans toward intelligence and science focused characters...yeah I was struggling there.  My Courier wasn't the brightest boy going in, but those Science Suits and Mentats sure helped.  Obsidian/Beth is really good about littering the landscape with augmentation and aid for those skills you might need some help with (I think I had about 120 tins of Mentats at the end of the DLC.  Made a few caps there Image IPB). 

I like how they focus certain DLCs on skills I might not otherwise use. It actually forces me to level them up a bit, instead of just plowing all my points into small guns, explosives, lockpick, repair and associated perks.  These DLCs actually forced me to round out my character a bit better than I normally would, and use many skills I often ignore in FO games.