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[SmilesJA]

Tunnel Snakes rule!

[ObserverStatus]

Why are you like this?

It's just the way God made me. Having me link this video is all part of His plan.

[General TSAR]

Hey guys, I played and beat Fallout 3 GOTY editon and now am interested in picking up vanilla Fallout New Vegas, but I have some questions if you can help:

 

Is the main/side quests more enjoyable compared to 3? 

Is the writing and VA better?

Are there more likable and/or memorable characters compared to 3?

Is NV more "emotional" than 3?

Are the graphics less bland than 3?

Is the music better?

Are there more "WTF" moments?

 

Thanks.

[AventuroLegendary]

Hey guys, I played and beat Fallout 3 GOTY editon and now am interested in picking up vanilla Fallout New Vegas, but I have some questions if you can help:

 

Is the main/side quests more enjoyable compared to 3? 

Is the writing and VA better?

Are there more likable and/or memorable characters compared to 3?

Is NV more "emotional" than 3?

Are the graphics less bland than 3?

Is the music better?

Are there more "WTF" moments?

 

Thanks.

 

Can't comment on quests since it feels subjective. Well, actually, I think the quest list is a good mix of whacky fun and gritty seriousness but with a lot of involvement with the factions. I think that the writing is generally much better than in Fallout 3. I found myself caring for some of my companions more than the entire F3 cast. The emotional storyline Fallout 3 boasts feels a little too simplistic after playing through a second time.

 

The graphics are more or less the same but with a warmer orange pallete as opposed to F3's sickly green and grey. The tone is less post-apocalyptic and more post-war reconstruction/wild west (if only the engine allowed for horses...).

 

The music in NV is basically like F3's (30's, 40's mainstream) but with an emphasis on Country and Western.

 

As for WTF moments, just pick the Wild Wild West trait at the start

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Hey guys, I played and beat Fallout 3 GOTY editon and now am interested in picking up vanilla Fallout New Vegas, but I have some questions if you can help:

 

Is the main/side quests more enjoyable compared to 3? 

Is the writing and VA better?

Are there more likable and/or memorable characters compared to 3?

Is NV more "emotional" than 3?

Are the graphics less bland than 3?

Is the music better?

Are there more "WTF" moments?

 

Thanks.

 

- Yes, the factional gameplay with relatively believable motivations and power dynamics is much more interesting than being shoehorned into a literal white knight hero.

- Definitely yes

- Yes, companions are absurdly better for example.

- Not 100% sure what you mean, but neither game is big on the melodrama. The whole dad thing is probably the most forced emotional moment of the two games. Though Vault 11 kicked me in the nuts with emotion when I got to the end.

- Unfortunately, if anything it's more bland. You get an Orange filter instead of a Green one but due to being set in the Mojave Desert, a lot of the gameworld is open land with points of interest being spread out. It's natural and realistic but also makes for a boring aesthetic.

- Many of the game sounds are recycled, as for the music I felt that NV has more atmospheric music while F3 has a better track/radio selection. What I mean by that is that NV has songs and music that better support the gameworld, whereas I enjoy F3's songs more. While F3 has a Big Band theme in it's music that reflects a pre-War mentality that intentionally doesn't match up with the post-apoc reality, NV has songs that range from Big Band to Country music, which reflects both the Hedonist image of Vegas, along with the Frontier Wild West motif outside of the city.

- Depends if you play with the Wild Wasteland trait. Gets rather Fallout 2 level outlandish at times.

[Barbarossa2010]

Hey guys, I played and beat Fallout 3 GOTY editon and now am interested in picking up vanilla Fallout New Vegas, but I have some questions if you can help:
 
Is the main/side quests more enjoyable compared to 3? 
Is the writing and VA better?
Are there more likable and/or memorable characters compared to 3?
Is NV more "emotional" than 3?
Are the graphics less bland than 3?
Is the music better?
Are there more "WTF" moments?
 
Thanks.

I would say yes to all. And the DLCs are among the best I've ever played.

[Fidite Nemini]

- Yes, the factional gameplay with relatively believable motivations and power dynamics is much more interesting than being shoehorned into a literal white knight hero.

- Definitely yes

- Yes, companions are absurdly better for example.

- Not 100% sure what you mean, but neither game is big on the melodrama. The whole dad thing is probably the most forced emotional moment of the two games. Though Vault 11 kicked me in the nuts with emotion when I got to the end.

- Unfortunately, if anything it's more bland. You get an Orange filter instead of a Green one but due to being set in the Mojave Desert, a lot of the gameworld is open land with points of interest being spread out. It's natural and realistic but also makes for a boring aesthetic.

- Many of the game sounds are recycled, as for the music I felt that NV has more atmospheric music while F3 has a better track/radio selection. What I mean by that is that NV has songs and music that better support the gameworld, whereas I enjoy F3's songs more. While F3 has a Big Band theme in it's music that reflects a pre-War mentality that intentionally doesn't match up with the post-apoc reality, NV has songs that range from Big Band to Country music, which reflects both the Hedonist image of Vegas, along with the Frontier Wild West motif outside of the city.

- Depends if you play with the Wild Wasteland trait. Gets rather Fallout 2 level outlandish at times.

 

That's a good summary.

 

 

If you go for FNV, check out Project Nevada and FOMM for THE Fallout mod manager!

[General TSAR]

- Yes, the factional gameplay with relatively believable motivations and power dynamics is much more interesting than being shoehorned into a literal white knight hero.

- Definitely yes

- Yes, companions are absurdly better for example.

- Not 100% sure what you mean, but neither game is big on the melodrama. The whole dad thing is probably the most forced emotional moment of the two games. Though Vault 11 kicked me in the nuts with emotion when I got to the end.

- Unfortunately, if anything it's more bland. You get an Orange filter instead of a Green one but due to being set in the Mojave Desert, a lot of the gameworld is open land with points of interest being spread out. It's natural and realistic but also makes for a boring aesthetic.

- Many of the game sounds are recycled, as for the music I felt that NV has more atmospheric music while F3 has a better track/radio selection. What I mean by that is that NV has songs and music that better support the gameworld, whereas I enjoy F3's songs more. While F3 has a Big Band theme in it's music that reflects a pre-War mentality that intentionally doesn't match up with the post-apoc reality, NV has songs that range from Big Band to Country music, which reflects both the Hedonist image of Vegas, along with the Frontier Wild West motif outside of the city.

- Depends if you play with the Wild Wasteland trait. Gets rather Fallout 2 level outlandish at times.

 

Can't comment on quests since it feels subjective. Well, actually, I think the quest list is a good mix of whacky fun and gritty seriousness but with a lot of involvement with the factions. I think that the writing is generally much better than in Fallout 3. I found myself caring for some of my companions more than the entire F3 cast. The emotional storyline Fallout 3 boasts feels a little too simplistic after playing through a second time.

 

The graphics are more or less the same but with a warmer orange pallete as opposed to F3's sickly green and grey. The tone is less post-apocalyptic and more post-war reconstruction/wild west (if only the engine allowed for horses...).

 

The music in NV is basically like F3's (30's, 40's mainstream) but with an emphasis on Country and Western.

 

As for WTF moments, just pick the Wild Wild West trait at the start 

 

 

Thanks.

 

So definitely pick it up.

[SlottsMachine]

Cass is best sidekick. 

[Rosalina is my BabyCakes]

I loved Cass as well. I remember putting her in the dress you get from Dead Money. She was very pretty and kick ass.

I used her and raul a lot. Raul always gives me a laugh when he mocks your decisions

[Barbarossa2010]

I too am a big Cass fan, but if you want to waylay everything in your path, be sure to pick up Boone in Novac. He's a sniper and his combat AI is an advantage to the player. Oh, and don't align with the Legion if you want to keep him. I personally like is companion quest, since he seems to open up very begrudgingly to the player.

Some companions have specific geographic triggers for their quests, and you may need to google where you need to take them if you become attached to anyone in particular.

Factioning is a big deal in New Vegas, so choose well.

Try not to make too many enemies too early. I made the mistake of killing Legionnaires as a level 4 or 5...it was un-fun.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Rose Cassidy best character in the whole Fallout universe!

[ObserverStatus]

Rose Cassidy best character in the whole Fallout universe!

Dr. Borous >

[Barbarossa2010]

Dr. Dala!

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Cass is cool, but Boone is my homie. Him and Rex are my posse of choice, always.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Cassidy is best waifu.

[MisterJB]

Hey guys, I played and beat Fallout 3 GOTY editon and now am interested in picking up vanilla Fallout New Vegas, but I have some questions if you can help:

 

Is the main/side quests more enjoyable compared to 3? 

Is the writing and VA better?

Whether it's more enjoyable is a matter of personal opinion but I think we can objectively state New Vegas has better writings and thus quests.

Whereas FO3 has set allies and enemies, New Vegas has many different factions with realistic motivations. Whereas FO3 has two, maybe three ways of solving a quest and, utlimately, the game, New Vegas has many more endings, it has many more options, without trying to spoiler too much, you can even join a faction, operate on the brain tumor of the faction leader (with sufficiently high Medical skill, of course) and either save him or let him die and have a new leader, one with entirely different ideal and methods, take his place.

Basically, you can plot, can scheme, can stab in the back which leads to a gigantic final battle where you see it all coming together. Definitively better than F03's "There are the bad guys, these are the guys who are going to help you, Now decide your ending, will you enter, with someone enter, will you poison the purifier?"

 

 

Even the DLC are magnituded above. I mean, you remember Operation Anchorage, right? How the only thing worthwhile was the loot you got?

Well, compare that with "Dead Money", New Vegas' first DLC where you get an interesting set of new companions, one of the deadliest dungeons in any Fallout game i have played and the DLC focus around a theme that involves the dungeon and every single character "Letting go"

Are there more likable and/or memorable characters compared to 3?

Well, the companions are up to Bioware standards with much to say, companion quests, etc. They were even planning romances at one point.

Of course, whether characters are likable or memorable is, again, subjective.

 

Is NV more "emotional" than 3?

After praising New Vegas so much, I'm going to say No.

It's my personal opinion. New Vegas is better from a writing and tehnical perspective but FO3 simply allowed me to have a much deeper connection to the setting.

Maybe because the backstory allows for more to connect to. Dad is your father; Amata was your one friend; Butch was your bully; Dr.Li is the person who knew your parents before you were born; Sarah and Owyn Lyons are the people who helped you when you needed it; the Purifier is your father's project; the people of the Capital Wasteland are the people he wanted to help.

Meanwhile, in New Vegas, you have zero background and zero connections to the Mojave. Some people like it because it allowed them to craft whatever character they want but, personally, it leads to me having a more difficult time caring for the Mojave and Vegas.

 

 

Are the graphics less bland than 3?

Graphic are the largely the same.

I'd say FO3 has the more interesting location, In FO3, it feels like you are walking through a wasteland, the ruins of civilization. In New Vegas, it's just a desert.

They fix that big time with "Lonesome Road". Best map ever!

 

Is the music better?

FO3 has a better radio selection. Other than that, I have noted no real difference.

 

Are there more "WTF" moments?

By "WTF" do you mean bugs, plot holes, easter eggs?

If it is the last, Wild Wasteland is one giant WTF by itself. You can actually be attacked by Monty Python's old ladies sketch.

 

[Barbarossa2010]

Agreed, Lonesome Road is a huge train wreck of a map...and its by far my favorite FO environment. It's the Full Monty of ruined wasteland. Even though its largely on rails, it really is an experience unto itself...and it didn't disappoint in wrapping things up.

What I like particularly about the New Vegas experience is that the DLCs are linked in their own story arc...which is hinted to and loosely intertwined within the main game, from your chat with Johnson Nash, to Veronica and her back story with Elijah and Christine, to the chatter about the Burned Man.

To me, its verges on masterful. Hell, here I am babbling on about it five years later...so to say I'm ready for Fallout 4 would be me grossly understating it.

[Gravisanimi]

Cassidy is best waifu.

Stealth Suit mk.II >

[spinachdiaper]

hey guys didn't you know that you can change the orange hud color in FONV to green or blue or white

[General TSAR]

Wow, you guys aren't kidding, the Mojave desert is so dull.

[KingTony]

Fallout New Vegas is better than Fallout 3 in every way... except for the environment. FO3's green and grey ruins blow the endless orange sand of New Vegas out of the water.

The exceptions to this would be the Strip itself. Stepping into those neon lights for the first time was an awesome gaming moment for me, nearly on par with leaving Vault 101 for the first time. Do yourself a favor and make sure it's nighttime the first time you enter the Strip.

[MisterJB]

Does anyone know of a good mod for Fallout 3 that allows you to collect wood, get a fire going, cook some meat in it, etc?
Basically like the campsites of F:NV.

 

 

 

[Br3admax]

Do yourself a favor and make sure it's nighttime the first time you enter the Strip.

Ha, definitely something every gamer needs to see. We call that high-rolling.

[General TSAR]

I did and well, I wish the wow factor wasn't as brief as it was.

 

The color palette and more specially the empty desert environment is killing me, I can barely play 30 minutes before becoming extremely bored and I clocked an average of 3 hours of play time for each session of Fallout 3.

 

Good thing I still have the receipt.