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[golak]

JOKER!............ok not my guess whould go on E.D.I or Miranda.

edit: Or better yet Conrad Verner. 

Modifié par golak, 24 juillet 2011 - 03:03 .

[TheKillerAngel]

Unless you deliberately ****** them off or go against the grain, according to Casey.

[seirhart]

I don't know about anyone else but I want my one of my favorite npcs to to betray me is Anderson. Say you escape with his help but then some thing happens later on in the game and he some how tricks you into meeting him and guess what several reaper agents are there with him.

[CuseGirl]

Had a discussion about this a few days ago. Speculating that info on Miranda is being held because in typical BioWare fashion, there has to be a betrayal and who better to flip on Shep than Miranda? I hope not cuz she's my girl thru and thru

[CuseGirl]

Dr JewLove wrote...

maybe that prothean squad mate will be able to "sense the taint"?

there will be no TAINT sensing or sensing of the taint in ME-3, i'm sure of it

[SovietCyborg]

Anderson is likely to end up being a Husk Boss or at least an indoctrinated one. Pretty much everyone who remains on the continent occupied by the Reapers could be indoctrinated. Anderson is as well an ex-N7 just like Shepard and Kai Leng. Also, knowing the past links of friendship with Shepard, it has drama potential and could be as effective as the whole "kid" thing.

Even then...I doubt he will be the traitor that Shepard is talking about. Of course, it is possible that one or more potential traitors could dead in some play-through if you played as a renegade. A nice little bonus for those who played that path.

[jmood88]

I really hope that it's one of the Mass Effect 1 squadmates.

[Blarty]

I personally don't buy the idea that either Miranda or Jacob are indoctrinated. The point being that if they had started down the route of indoctrination, that likelyhood is that they would have started to show more and more signs of it before the Suicide Mission, particularly on board the Derelict Reaper.

Also the only person that knows about all of Cerberus' activities is TIM; all of his top operatives would not know one another if they met in the street, such is the concept of 'Cells'

Modifié par Blarty, 25 juillet 2011 - 02:42 .

[Makkufish]

I would say Liara because it would fit in perfectly with how my playthroughs have gone so far. (Totally indifferent, usually don't even talk to her, still she's all over me, hmmmmmm...)

But I'm putting my money on Vega, just because he looks so bland so far, him being a traitor would be interesting.

[Phaelducan]

Mac Walters

[Calamity Abounds]

???: Get up Shepard and face me!

Shepard: You orchestrated this whole thing, its been you all along, playing games with the lives of the galaxy and for what? You're sick amusement perhaps? You've betrayed humanity, the council and your very existence. I demand to know who you are!?

???: Khalisah Bint Sinan al-Jilani Westerlund News

Shepard: O_O

[Computron2000]

If the traitor was the Vimire survivor, it would be great. It was such a tough choice choosing who to kill because i wanted to off the both of them.

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

Yoshimo, of course. They will explain his appearance somehow.

[Eranen]

ohbobsagetpiss wrote...

 I bet it's just a friend of Mordin's, someone trying to help you get the krogan "princess".. Not anyone from the first two, just some random salarian who got indoctrinated or bribed.

This makes the most sense to me.
OR
EDI, didn't someone already mention she's still bound by cerberus protocol unless tali or garrus find
someway around that tidbit.

[LOLandStuff]

I would have said Miranda, because the way she quit wasn't really that convincing, not after all the Cerberus talk she gives me and the lousy excuses to defend them. But she isn't that stupid as to help them if they're working for the Reapers.
And being Samara is just ridiculous. If she wants you dead for killing those batarians, she'll come after you personally.
But it will be a nice twist if it was Shepard, who's slowly getting indoctrinated and has memory blanks.

[LordNige]

Everybody is quick to paint a squad mate as the traitor, it could be a peripheral character. I do however like the idea of a sleeper agent being aboard and each mission gives subtle hints to the traitors identity.

[_FLANDERS]

would be the one he let go when he nuke sarens base.

[bigrdog101]

The Space Hamster!!

What fools we have been, blinded by how cute it is only for that to be our destruction!

DAMN YOU SPACE HAMSTER DAMN YOU!! X.X

[V-rex]

If the VS was indoctrinated, they wouldn't have responded the way they did on Horizon. They would have leapt at the opportunity to join Shepard's team. I also don't see them ratting Shepard out to the organization they so openly despise either, I especially have difficulty believing that they (or indeed anyone else) would actually do a 'HAH I ARE EVILZ!' announcement during the reaper invasion.

What I'm saying is, if after all this bloody time of waiting to finally have the VS back in the game again, they drop a 'hah they were evil and indoctrinated from the very beginning. Guess you should have gone with Liara!' plot device on me. I will rage in a way that time and space could never be prepared for.

This is why I hate the idea of 'indoctrination' being used as a plot device in a story like this, because it means that we can have characters doing stuff that they would never do and of which makes no logical sense in any universe (like actually trying to kill someone on your side in the middle of full scale galactic war) and we don't even have to give them any kind of coherent motivation for doing it.
Might as well be saying 'the devil made me do it'. It's just stupid. If done right, in the case of Saren, it can actually make for interesting moments in the story as he's conflicted as to whether or not he is actually in control of his own actions.
But if all it does is amount to a 'now this character has become evil because screw you why should there need to be a motive', then all I see is a cynical attempt to not put effort into character motivations.
And frankly, even though I'm a paragon and I don't like Cerberus, I hope in game there's a better story justification for why they are suddenly eager to kill the person they just spent over two billion dollars and two years rebuilding, then just 'oh, they be indoctrinated y'all'.

Because right now it looks like they are joining Weyland Yutani, Armacam and the Umbrella corporation in the proud line up of 'dark and shady giant organizations that are stupidly evil for no good bloody reason'. Trying to destroy your greatest investment, and being heavily involved in trying to do that while in the middle of the bloody ARMAGEDDON pushes so far into the realm of 'stupid evil' that it's almost in need of its own classification.

Please for god's sake, I don't want any double cross plot twists at the best of times because they are cliche and stupid and run the risk of ruining characters that people in the Mass Effect community have come to know and love.
But if you must have them, for god's sake let it be a better justification then just 'they are indoctrinated' because a person turning evil for no other reason other then total commitment to mindless evilness doesn't make for good storytelling.
That said, if you must have characters be indoctrinated, you sure as hell better give people an option to save them somehow. Unless you want fanboy rage coming down on you hard,

As far as the 'who tipped off Cerberus' thing, I can't be sure who it was, though I honestly think it'll turn out to be a minor character or some random Salarian in Mordin's team, but I doubt strongly that it could be one of the squadmates.

One thing though, was it ever said that there would be a traitor? Because so far all I'm hearing is rumors. And I hope like mad that that's all.

[V-rex]

That said, I totally reckon it's that one bridge crewmember on the right who keeps randomly pressing buttons making it look like he's actually doing something.
I don't trust him.