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Bluko wrote...

Also I haven't actually seen a statement yet saying the movie is going to be ME1's story.


That'd be because no such statement was made at Comic-con. Makes the existence of this thread a bit mystifying.

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Valentia X wrote...

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I'm sure it will make money, but if I wanted to play a paragon soldier Sheploo, I'd make one, and that's what it's mostly likely going to be.

See, for me it's not even the ManShep thing. I'm used to seeing that guy who isn't my Shepard running around. In a way it's a blessing, because they can't ruin Shepard for me with the disconnect between Sheploo and the FemShep that I play.

I'm far more worried about how they will 'adapt' the squadmates and how they'll manage to get the depth of story to fit into two hours. I simply don't think this adaptation will bring anything to the table, it will be inferior in every respect except for the ability to see real faces on the human characters. Who, admittedly, I care least about. Especially since they'll have different faces, voices and possibly different personalities as well.


Fair enough, it's a very good point. It might be partially annoying to me because while I love the story of ME1, I didn't care for any of my squaddies except Wrex and Garrus, and I see them as being pretty easy to screw up. Plus I'm afraid they'll be relegated to tertiary 'weird alien' status and I'd wind up having to listen to Kaidan talk about that one time at magic camp and Liara melt into blue puddles at Shepard's feet.

It's a all around DNW scenario for me. Won't begrude anyone who wants to see it, but what can you do.


These days they'll just throw Ali Hillis, Liz Sroka and Brendon Keener and such in Mocap suits and they'll look and sound exactely like they do in game except more photo realistic. Actually it's Liara that will be the tricky one to do because she can be done both ways. If they do her live action with an actor and prostetics, she won't look or sound like Liara. If they mocap her, she'll look and sound like Liara, but you'll get the occasional creepyness that you saw in Beowolf when recreating a very human looking face. The Navi in Avatar where more alien looking and this effect wasn't as noticable. Rex, Garrus, and Tali will basically have to be mocapped due to their alien body shape. They WILL NOT use rubber masks with blue screen material on their arms and legs like they did pre-phantom manace.

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Hey think of it this way: It seems that popular movies are being separated into separate movies. I.E. Deathly Hallows and--I apologise for this reference--the Twilight movie Breaking Dawn. While, yes, some people could very well get 20+ hours--myself included--out of the gameplay for ME1 and ME2. Everyone is saying, "You can't fit this into 2 hours," but did you think perhaps that the movie may very well be split into parts to keep fans coming?

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Guys, you can look at it two different ways.

Picture the Mass Effect movie as a 2.5 hour to 3 hour event. Now, compare it to the 20+ hours of game time. You can cut out ALOT of non-important things. Walking around, exploring....returning to the Citadel and other places just to see what's up. Granted, that was where the awe and wonder came into playing....BUT, they can still show The Citadel and other places. Just, in a more realistic manner. It can still work, it really could. Cut out Therum and have Liara on The Citadel or something.

I always pictured the game could make a really amazing movie...they just have to pace it right and cut out the fat.


I agree. All squadies except Liara where recruited on the Citidel anyway. When When Anderson is throwing the keys to the Normandy to Shepard, Andeson can say something like. " And I also want you to meet Dr. Liara T'soni, a prothean expert and daughter to Matriarch Benezea, I think she could be of some use to you Shepard." Shep and Liara have a moment of recognistion. Andeson says," you two know eachogher?" Shepard says " yes, I rescued her on Therium a year ago when our squad was dispatched there when her dig site got overrun with the geth. Liara was the only survivor." A bit of a tweek to the backstory, but It saves time and rescuing Liara on Therium can now be referenced in books and comics while remaining canon to both the movie goers and gamers as long as the details are glossed over a bit.

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Yvell wrote...

Hey think of it this way: It seems that popular movies are being separated into separate movies. I.E. Deathly Hallows and--I apologise for this reference--the Twilight movie Breaking Dawn. While, yes, some people could very well get 20+ hours--myself included--out of the gameplay for ME1 and ME2. Everyone is saying, "You can't fit this into 2 hours," but did you think perhaps that the movie may very well be split into parts to keep fans coming?


This could work, but they'd have to make Virmire the climax of the first film and the attack on the citdel the climax for the second. maybe"

First film:
Eden Prime
Citedel (recruit Garrus, Rex, Tali)
Feros
Ashley romance
Virmire

Second Film
Citedel
Therium (recruit Liara)
Noveria
love triangle/catfight
Ilos
Battle for Citidel

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evmiller wrote...

Yvell wrote...

Hey think of it this way: It seems that popular movies are being separated into separate movies. I.E. Deathly Hallows and--I apologise for this reference--the Twilight movie Breaking Dawn. While, yes, some people could very well get 20+ hours--myself included--out of the gameplay for ME1 and ME2. Everyone is saying, "You can't fit this into 2 hours," but did you think perhaps that the movie may very well be split into parts to keep fans coming?


This could work, but they'd have to make Virmire the climax of the first film and the attack on the citdel the climax for the second. maybe"

First film:
Eden Prime
Citedel (recruit Garrus, Rex, Tali)
Feros
Ashley romance
Virmire

Second Film
Citedel
Therium (recruit Liara)
Noveria
love triangle/catfight
Ilos
Battle for Citidel




Most movie studios would only do that when they know it's going to be a success. If part 1 absolutly bombs, then that'd be a whole other movie - along with the production costs - instantly gone to waste. The reason why films such as Deathly Hallows and The Hobbit are split into two films is because they're guaranteed to be a success, and therefore the studios are able to make even more money yet at the same time take more creative opportunities for the content of the films themselves.

While Mass Effect is big in the gaming crowd, there's not really a big chance that the movie-goers would feel the same way. Plus the reputation of game-based films will really hurt the film in terms of how many people will go to see it.

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Good points.If it has to be one movie then, alot might get cut. Movie plots usually stay focused and anything that doesn't add to the Seren/Reaper plot will likely get the axe. Noveria and Feros will bog the story down two much. They just need to change a few details about where they find out about the Mu Relay and find another way for shep to understand the prothean visions without needing the cipher on Feros. In fact, there isn't much that can't be cut. The whole thing in between Eden Prime and the attack on the Citidel can be "reimagined" if you will. Just bring all the original actors back in and they might sell some tickets.

Modifié par evmiller, 25 juillet 2011 - 02:25 .


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How can you make a movie based on a game where the whole point is the protagonist being customizable? Whoever is cast as Shepard is not Shepard to everyone who played.

I liked the idea of doing the First Contact War. I always wanted to see what happened.

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i'm still digging my heals in and not convinved this is 100% official. Has anyone from BioWare confirmed this? Or is it just posted on IGN and that other site?

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It will be awkward if it follows Shep, because they would have to pick one, and since default Shep is the most common they would choose him. My problem with that? Sheploo looks nothing like Mark Meer, and sounds nothing like Mark Vanderloo, so unless they lip-sync him like a washed-out teen popstar it will be too bizarre for my tastes.

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Hey, let's make DA2 into a movie as well! *derp* But yes, I think that a ME1 movie has a chance of being a BIG hit, with the right planning and...well, hate to sound this way, but with the correct amount of funding and materials.

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I've seen the script. it's pretty awesome.

the first half-hour is about Shepard searching in his inventory.

then there's the notorious elevator scene. which is pretty awesome.

as a final climax, the textures finally arrives.

I can't wait !

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I think basing the movie(s) on the ME1-3 trilogy makes the most sense. I agree that video game movies usually flop and most good writers/directors/actors tend to stay away from them. Having said that, I can tell you right now that the story is going to ****** most fans off because it won't follow the game scene for scene... and it shouldn't. If I were tasked with writing a screenplay based on ME1 (and I do kind of work in this field and have experience writing scripts, so I'm not talking out of my *ss completely :)) I would make some major changes, such as:

Saren: Having the main antagonist be either a puppet/mask or CG (unless you've got a James Cameron budget) is going to flop. You will not be able to convey emotions and the audience (except for core fans) will be alienated and not be able to relate. So, either you change the design of Turians so that they are much more human looking or you change the story and make Saren a human. I'd probably go for the later.

Alien characters: They will have to be secondary characters for the same reason. Liara (and Asari in general as they have human faces) is the exception here.

Missions: Wait, so Shepard goes to a planet and stops Saren from building an alien army (Rachni), then goes to another planet and stops Saren from building an alien army (Krogan). Virmire would have to be a much larger scene with elements of other missions added to it so that the story doesn't feel repedative. Benezia will have to be on Virmire. The Rachni can probably be eliminated all together as the Krogan and the genophage are far more important to the overall trilogy.

Cerberus and TIM: Cerberus will have to have a bigger role and TIM will have to be at least introduced so that they don't just appear out of nowhere in the second movie.

These are just off the top of my head, but I'm sure the movie would deviate from the plot of the game in a lot more areas. The ME2 sequel will too, as a movie about recruiting and gaining loyalty of a crew one at a time wouldn't be very interesting. I'd say most of the crew could be eliminated completely, with just returning crew (Garrus and Tali) and Cerberus crew (Miranda and Jacob) being the most important. Maybe Mordin as the genophage could be a side story arc that would continue through the movies. I'd have the VS and Liara playing a bigger role (probably focus on the Shadow Broker thing) as well as making Arrival a bigger part of the plot as in having that be the climax of the story (not destroying the Collector base), again having a human main protagonist instead of a giant insect will be work better with a main stream audience.

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Haristo wrote...

I've seen the script. it's pretty awesome.

the first half-hour is about Shepard searching in his inventory.

then there's the notorious elevator scene. which is pretty awesome.

as a final climax, the textures finally arrives.

I can't wait !

I lol'd.

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If it is based on ME1 and follows Shepard it will fail because everyone played the game differently. Same reason and KOTOR movie would be fail.

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I heard that it was not really confirmed if there was a ME movie in the works.

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TOBY FLENDERSON wrote...

If it is based on ME1 and follows Shepard it will fail because everyone played the game differently. Same reason and KOTOR movie would be fail.



who gives a flying f***?  you losers just need to pretend this is Bioware's and the dudes who will work on the movies version of their playthrough.

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I disagree, the best thing about Mass Effect IMO is that there isn't a 'canon' as such and the story although following a certain path has discrepencies determined by your decsions, it means shepard and the world he has influenced are shaped largely to an extent by the player, something that cannot be achieved on the screen.

Secondly, by releasing a movie based on the first game, the movie is revealing key elements of Mass Effect 1's story and potentially ruining it for new players. The producers said that theres alot of ME lore to acquire inspiration from, so why just draw from the main story? Why not explore the expanded universe? If they have so much faith in their product, why are they recycling old material? Since they are trying to draw new fans to the series then what difference does it make whether the ME on the screen is from the expanded universe? By not capitalising on the movie opportunity to expand the universe they are restricting and tunneling it not allow the universe to grow as it reaches new audiences. Like imagine if Star Wars was focused purely on the timeframe of the movies and purely focused on the exploits of Luke etc, the universe wouldnt be nearly as fascinating as it is.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Also I haven't actually seen a statement yet saying the movie is going to be ME1's story.


That'd be because no such statement was made at Comic-con. Makes the existence of this thread a bit mystifying.

I saw the Mass Effect movie panel on YouTube and they literally said they're focusing on the first game for the first movie.

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it think they shuld have made a move from one of the novels, they are basicly made up to be a scrit ffs, im gonna laugh when they fail every video game adaptation have

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Except that, after ME3, that'll be the end of Shepard's story. So.

And besides, most media - hell, just about all of it - depicts Sheploo as THE Shepard, anyway. You see him on promotional art, screens, box covers, et cetera. It's only recently that they've even entertained the idea of female Shepard trailer, and we've yet to see it. And it's ridiculous to think that '90%' of the fanbase are going to know Shepard from the movie - since most of the fanbase has kind of, you know, played the damn game. As for people who haven't, who cares what they think or percieve? If it doesn't change your playthrough, why is it such a big deal?


Because the credible media does not. The writers have purposely avoided a canon, and because of this movie and the picture/setting/popularity that it can have, it'll change that ideal to avoid a canon. The fans will want to see more and where there's an opportunity to make money, they won't turn it down.

But alas, I guess my fragile ego is just overreacting. I suppose it wouldn't mean so much except the fact that they've told and reassured us from day one there was no canon.


Regardless of what the movie does, there still won't be a canon within the game.


This isn't related to ME. but didn't Bioware eventually decide that Revan from KOTOR was male by canon despite the option to play female as well? so anyone who played female Revan played a character that was invalidated and doesn't exist. correct?

what's to stop the same thing happening with Shepard?<_<

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Jacob sums up how I feel about mass effect movie

heavy risk.....but the priiiize

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didymos1120 wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Also I haven't actually seen a statement yet saying the movie is going to be ME1's story.


That'd be because no such statement was made at Comic-con. Makes the existence of this thread a bit mystifying.


Yeah I'm getting the feeling this is probably a flamebait thread. Seems to have grown increasingly common lately, although there's always a few users intent on causing discontent. Of course pretty much any topic created can become a flame war so it's not surprising.

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Bluko wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Also I haven't actually seen a statement yet saying the movie is going to be ME1's story.


That'd be because no such statement was made at Comic-con. Makes the existence of this thread a bit mystifying.


Yeah I'm getting the feeling this is probably a flamebait thread. Seems to have grown increasingly common lately, although there's always a few users intent on causing discontent. Of course pretty much any topic created can become a flame war so it's not surprising.


It was on a ticker for the G4 coverage of comic con.  Thats where I first heard of it.