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Gabey5 wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

I'm sure it will make money, but if I wanted to play a paragon soldier Sheploo, I'd make one, and that's what it's mostly likely going to be.


people read harry potter and see all the films
same with lord of the rings
or game of thrones


:whistle:


Bad analogy. Those all started out as novels. I don't know if I need to state this explicitly or not, but unlike a game, novels have a linear story and no choices by the reader, unless it's one of those children's Choose Your Own Adventure books. (which were AWESOME, by the way)

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

I'm sure it will make money, but if I wanted to play a paragon soldier Sheploo, I'd make one, and that's what it's mostly likely going to be.


people read harry potter and see all the films
same with lord of the rings
or game of thrones


:whistle:


Bad analogy. Those all started out as novels. I don't know if I need to state this explicitly or not, but unlike a game, novels have a linear story and no choices by the reader, unless it's one of those children's Choose Your Own Adventure books. (which were AWESOME, by the way)


Most games have a linear story, too. Games like Mass Effect are the exception, not the rule.

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Considering that they really will adapt the ME1 Story for the Movie...

Gabey5 wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

I'm sure it will make money, but if I wanted to play a paragon soldier Sheploo, I'd make one, and that's what it's mostly likely going to be.


people read harry potter and see all the films
same with lord of the rings
or game of thrones


:whistle:




When reading Lord of the Rings, I could not avoid Boromirs Death. I could not reject  helping Rohan in Helms deep and let them get extinguished. And Smeagol always drops into the vulcan with the ring.

When adapting Books, everyone who read the books has the experienced the exact same story. This is not true for a game like Mass Effect. In Books, Images and Voices exist only in our imagination. But we all have heard how Shepard and his squaddies sound and look, while the actors in the film will sound and look quite different while still claiming to be the same characters that we enjoyed in the game. The decisions by Shepard will be different than mine, so might the romance and even the ending. And still the movie will claim to be the same story that I already experienced.

No, the movie will not have the power to destroy the experience I had while playing mass effect. But why should I care about passively watching a mass effect story that includes different decisions, endings and characters than the one I already know? And if I want to experience that particular story, why don't I just go ahead and play the game that way myself?

If the movie is about anything else in the Mass Effect universe, I will go watch it even if it is bad. If it's an interpretation of the ME1 Storyline, I can't image watching it.

Modifié par phagga, 29 juillet 2011 - 02:44 .


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This could be one of the best sci fi movies ever made! It could spawn a franchise to rival star wars and star trek. Or it could be a ****ty movie with a ****ty budget.

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What? I thought that they announced it would be on First Contact War?

This is dumb as hell. Can't wait to see it fail.

The number of new fans it will attract will probably be miniscule, and unless they give it a Star Wars Ep 3 budget, it's probably going to look like a horrible B movie game adaptation for nerds.

As for the actual fans of the series, who the **** wants to watch a version of the game which spits all over their choices and shows something they could just as easily do in the game. And how are they going to fit the deep character development into the game? Mass Effect had hours of conversation. A movie is going to be 3.5 hours at the very maximum.

I'm not going to watch this bullcrap.

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I love how people are personally offended by the fact that a version of Shepard might differ from their version of Shepard. How much more pathetic can fanboys get?

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ArcanistLibram wrote...

I love how people are personally offended by the fact that a version of Shepard might differ from their version of Shepard. How much more pathetic can fanboys get?


Agreed its really not a big deal. There is no canon shep and the movie won't be canon shep just one of many versions of ME1

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If I were producing the movie, I would wait until Mass Effect 3 comes out, and make the director create his own Shepard and play through the whole trilogy before he starts so he knows what direction to take the film in.

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It probably won't happen. It's not a very sound business plan, too risky considering the investment needed to have a chance at success.

Edit: Alright after some thought I suppose it isn't a terrible idea. The Developers want to entice other people to get involved in the ME Universe and so put together a movie with some basic ideas (renegade path, alien romance). I'm guessing they hope to entice people to make their own decisions in the game universe.

Pretty much just promotional.

Modifié par Gweedotk, 31 juillet 2011 - 06:13 .


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ImPantsAtThis wrote...

If I were producing the movie, I would wait until Mass Effect 3 comes out, and make the director create his own Shepard and play through the whole trilogy before he starts so he knows what direction to take the film in.

Yes. I'd go as far as saying have everyone involved play through each game, at least casually and at least once, to see it from that perspective.

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James2912 wrote...

This could be one of the best sci fi movies ever made! It could spawn a franchise to rival star wars and star trek. Or it could be a ****ty movie with a ****ty budget.

I don't think Mass Effect needs to be a movie to do the second thing you said it could.:D

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This one greets you, mighty ones!

Does any of you have any kind of knowledge of this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1867086/

For Yvonne Strahovski is going to voice 'Miranda', the main character of the movie. Coincidence only?

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I think people are missing the point. It wasn't the STORY that made Mass Effect great (because, really its the same one we have seen Bioware tell time and time again). It was the EXPERIENCE. And the best part about the experience in the game was the world.

Think of the movie, not telling the story of Mass Effect, but introducing the world (er, ah, Galaxy) of Mass Effect to people that have not experienced it before.

They get to see Geth and Aasari and Batarians and Reapers and Mass Effect relays and (if done well) IT WILL BE AWESOME!

The Story of Shep and the Reapers is great. But that isn't why we would go to the movie. Or even play the game, now is it?

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Look at True Blood and Game of Thrones. Those were based on books that were hardly known. But now...

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 03 août 2011 - 08:57 .


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Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Look at True Blood and Game of Thrones. Those were based on books that were hardly known. But now...


Dunno about true blood, but GoT was quite famous before the tv show.

And for the millionth time, people, the source material for ME is a game, not a book. Books are static. The analogy does not line up. Making a movie about the events of ME1 (if that's actually what they do) is like making a movie based on a choose your own adventure novel. Kinda misses the point.

Except money.

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The Interloper wrote...

And for the millionth time, people, the source material for ME is a game, not a book. Books are static. The analogy does not line up. Making a movie about the events of ME1 (if that's actually what they do) is like making a movie based on a choose your own adventure novel. Kinda misses the point.

Except money.

The money part is debatable if every ME fan is telling their friends and spamming the interwebs about how terrible the movie is, too.

I'm hoping for a good movie. I expect a f-ing terrible one at this point, for reasons that I have already posted.

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James2912 wrote...

ArcanistLibram wrote...

I love how people are personally offended by the fact that a version of Shepard might differ from their version of Shepard. How much more pathetic can fanboys get?


Agreed its really not a big deal. There is no canon shep and the movie won't be canon shep just one of many versions of ME1


Ya I dunno why everyone's panties are in a knot. It won't be on my Shepard but I don't even give a crap. Honestly I'm glad I'll be seeing a Shepard that made different choices. It'll make it interesting, and something I've never seen.

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People are like "Well it's just another take on Shepard. No biggie. It won't change your playthrough."

Umm BS it won't. This will pretty much canonize the storyline of Mass Effect which COMPLETELY contradicts the whole theme of choice in the series. Not to mention i've played through the game god knows how many times, why would i want to see it again? In fact why would i want to see condensed version of it, cause there's no way they can fit everything that happened into one movie.

Why would you want to see a 2-3 hour version of something you've already seen plenty of times?

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 04 août 2011 - 04:32 .


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littlezack wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

I'm sure it will make money, but if I wanted to play a paragon soldier Sheploo, I'd make one, and that's what it's mostly likely going to be.


people read harry potter and see all the films
same with lord of the rings
or game of thrones


:whistle:


Bad analogy. Those all started out as novels. I don't know if I need to state this explicitly or not, but unlike a game, novels have a linear story and no choices by the reader, unless it's one of those children's Choose Your Own Adventure books. (which were AWESOME, by the way)


Most games have a linear story, too. Games like Mass Effect are the exception, not the rule.

arent we talking about a Mass Effect movie??

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

People are like "Well it's just another take on Shepard. No biggie. It won't change your playthrough."

Umm BS it won't. This will pretty much canonize the storyline of Mass Effect which COMPLETELY contradicts the whole theme of choice in the series


I've yet to see a solid argument for how a movie effects the choices you make in a game.

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littlezack wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

People are like "Well it's just another take on Shepard. No biggie. It won't change your playthrough."

Umm BS it won't. This will pretty much canonize the storyline of Mass Effect which COMPLETELY contradicts the whole theme of choice in the series


I've yet to see a solid argument for how a movie effects the choices you make in a game.

when you have a canon storyline, it makes anyone who strays from that path feel like they are doing something wrong, (it personally wouldnt affect me, and im definatley seeing the ME movie) but i see how some people would be affect by a canon storyline

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littlezack wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

People are like "Well it's just another take on Shepard. No biggie. It won't change your playthrough."

Umm BS it won't. This will pretty much canonize the storyline of Mass Effect which COMPLETELY contradicts the whole theme of choice in the series


I've yet to see a solid argument for how a movie effects the choices you make in a game.


Because the theme of Mass Effect is choice. Everyone's playthrough is different. There is no canon storyline. Bioware has told us time and time again that there is no canon Shepard. Shepard is what you perceive him/her to be. And now with an official movie being released based on the first game, it's doing away with all that.

So now there's going to be an official Shepard and storyline. Sorry gamers. You played the game all wrong. This is how it really happened!

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 04 août 2011 - 04:46 .


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littlezack wrote...

Most games have a linear story, too. Games like Mass Effect are the exception, not the rule.

Rather significant exception that can't be ingnored just because other gaming genres have linear storytelling structures and singular canon. The storytelling in RPG is different at its very core from anything else, be it moves, books, comics, or linear action adventure games with predefined characters. RPGs are simply about something completly different. You're suppoused to mold the main character the way you want and ROLE-PLAY through the story the way you want. It's contradictionary with the basic idea of a movie. That's why I'm against adaptations of RPGs. If you want to adapt God of War or Tomb Raider, sure, go ahead. Lara Croft and Kratos are completly fleshed out, molded characters by their creatos. In that aspect, they're no different to movie/book/comic characters. The storytelling structure in GOW and TR is linear in the sense that while various things *may* be performed in various order (especially in more open world games), all the events are the same. There are no alternate endings, alternate characters, alternate deaths etc. If they want to make a ME movie, sure go ahead. Make a prequel with linear storyline and what not. But ME1/2/3 are RPGs.

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JediMaster_Murph wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

People are like "Well it's just another take on Shepard. No biggie. It won't change your playthrough."

Umm BS it won't. This will pretty much canonize the storyline of Mass Effect which COMPLETELY contradicts the whole theme of choice in the series


I've yet to see a solid argument for how a movie effects the choices you make in a game.

when you have a canon storyline, it makes anyone who strays from that path feel like they are doing something wrong, (it personally wouldnt affect me, and im definatley seeing the ME movie) but i see how some people would be affect by a canon storyline


Firstly, as I'm sure I've said before, this movie will be coming out a LONG time after we're done playing ME3.If it hits before 2013, I will be greatly surprised.

Secondly, nobody has said anything about canonizing anything. The concept of a movie having a different interpretation than the source material is nothing new. Will some people interpret the movie to be 'canon'? Sure, and to that I ask a hearty 'So the ***** what?' It doesn't make them right. Let them think what they think, and if they play Mass Effect, they'll be pleasantly surprised. Even if someone comes out and says 'This is the official storyline', it shouldn't detract from anything you did in the game. 

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The storytelling in RPG is different at its very core from anything else, be it moves, books, comics, or linear action adventure games with predefined characters. RPGs are simply about something completly different. You're suppoused to mold the main character the way you want and ROLE-PLAY through the story the way you want. It's contradictionary with the basic idea of a movie. That's why I'm against adaptations of RPGs.

You know, it's funny. I played Wild Arms 4about three times all the way through, and it ended the same way each time. I did the same things. It went the same way. The main character's actions were not in my control. But I could have sworn it was an RPG. Silly me.