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[shepskisaac]

littlezack wrote...

Movie canon does not equal videogame canon. I can't say it any simpler.

Then what's the point of it? So far they've been working hard to have one canon of the ME universe and make all the companion books, comics, games and everything else work with non-linear RPG trilogy. Is marketing and getting 'into the mainstream' the sole point of a ME1-based movie? To me just it's just such a waste of time from the artistic POV. Instead of using a movie format to tell another ME story and add to the universe, as other storytelling formats did (books, comics), this will serve solely as a marketing tool and a replacement of the actual universe for the masses.

[Mathias]

littlezack wrote...

JediMaster_Murph wrote...

littlezack wrote...

 ok so the subway allows you to make your sandwich but everytime you ask for something they yell at you that your doing it wrong, sure at the end you still get your sandwich, but its definitely not as good of an experience

The only place your analogy works is in some strange universe where you can order Subway sandwiches without talking to the people making them. Because you sure as hell don't have to see the movie.

Edit: Actually, some Subways let you fax the orders in, so I guess such a world exists. Still, you get what I mean.

not really, all im sayin is that if a movie is made about shepard, dont you think his choices would be considered the canon choices?, and if you played mass effect and your choices arent the canon ones, wouldnt you think that some people wouldnt have as much fun?

I accepted the fact that you don't think it's a big deal from the get go. Why can't you do the same for us?

[littlezack]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

littlezack wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

littlezack wrote...

I honestly wouldn't even say most RPGs like that. Certainly not a majority. Quite a few are, and it is a growing trend, but you can find more examples of RPGs with linear storylines than ones without.

Even if, that still doesn't matter. The idea behind the storytelling in the particular trilogy of games we talk about is simply different, contradictionary and incompatible with movie format. From a purely artistic point of view, I don't get why does anyone feel there should be a movie version of something that in its storytelling structure was suppoused to be give you something a movie can't, a choice. If BioWare wanted one canon storyline, they would've done an action-adventure game. But they wanted something different, so they went with an RPG offering freedom to chose contracictionary to each other choices and canons.

Movie canon does not equal videogame canon. I can't say it any simpler.

Unless the movie is based entirely on a story where the main character's looks, personality and the decisions he/she makes are chosen by the player.

WHO SAYS? Really, what damned divine deity descended from on high and declared that 'MOVIE SHEPARD IS THE ONE TRUE SHEPARD' When did this happen?

[JediMaster_Murph]

littlezack wrote...

JediMaster_Murph wrote...

littlezack wrote...

 ok so the subway allows you to make your sandwich but everytime you ask for something they yell at you that your doing it wrong, sure at the end you still get your sandwich, but its definitely not as good of an experience

The only place your analogy works is in some strange universe where you can order Subway sandwiches without talking to the people making them. Because you sure as hell don't have to see the movie.

Edit: Actually, some Subways let you fax the orders in, so I guess such a world exists. Still, you get what I mean.

not really, all im sayin is that if a movie is made about shepard, dont you think his choices would be considered the canon choices?, and if you played mass effect and your choices arent the canon ones, wouldnt you think that some people wouldnt have as much fun?

bro just answer the question, wouldnt it take away from the experience at least a little?

Modifié par JediMaster_Murph, 04 août 2011 - 05:24 .

[Mathias]

littlezack wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

littlezack wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

littlezack wrote...

I honestly wouldn't even say most RPGs like that. Certainly not a majority. Quite a few are, and it is a growing trend, but you can find more examples of RPGs with linear storylines than ones without.

Even if, that still doesn't matter. The idea behind the storytelling in the particular trilogy of games we talk about is simply different, contradictionary and incompatible with movie format. From a purely artistic point of view, I don't get why does anyone feel there should be a movie version of something that in its storytelling structure was suppoused to be give you something a movie can't, a choice. If BioWare wanted one canon storyline, they would've done an action-adventure game. But they wanted something different, so they went with an RPG offering freedom to chose contracictionary to each other choices and canons.

Movie canon does not equal videogame canon. I can't say it any simpler.

Unless the movie is based entirely on a story where the main character's looks, personality and the decisions he/she makes are chosen by the player.

WHO SAYS? Really, what damned divine deity descended from on high and declared that 'MOVIE SHEPARD IS THE ONE TRUE SHEPARD' When did this happen?

Subtle.

[ThePwener]

There's a lot of salmon in this thread.



Maybe a troll can reel them 'em in.

[Mathias]

ThePwener wrote...

There's a lot of salmon in this thread.



Maybe a troll can reel them 'em in.

Grow up.

[ThePwener]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Grow up.

Sure, wathever.

[littlezack]

JediMaster_Murph wrote...

littlezack wrote...

JediMaster_Murph wrote...

littlezack wrote...

 ok so the subway allows you to make your sandwich but everytime you ask for something they yell at you that your doing it wrong, sure at the end you still get your sandwich, but its definitely not as good of an experience

The only place your analogy works is in some strange universe where you can order Subway sandwiches without talking to the people making them. Because you sure as hell don't have to see the movie.

Edit: Actually, some Subways let you fax the orders in, so I guess such a world exists. Still, you get what I mean.

not really, all im sayin is that if a movie is made about shepard, dont you think his choices would be considered the canon choices?, and if you played mass effect and your choices arent the canon ones, wouldnt you think that some people wouldnt have as much fun?

bro just answer the question, wouldnt it take away from the experience at least a little?

No. Even if I'm playing Mass Effect when this movie comes out - which is a stretch - it won't change a thing. At most, I'll be playing along and think 'Huh. In the movie, Shepard did this instead of what I'm about to do. Oh, well;' And then I'll go ahead and do the thing I was going to do and probably not have a second thought. Because why should I care? I just play the game for fun. That's why you play games: For Fun. Why should I care what happened in the movie? It's just a movie.

[chester013]

Felt the need to post this from the IMDB boards, written by SupR G over there:

"First, EA/Bioware is not making this movie. They never were, and never will. They are a video game production company, not a film studio. LEGENDARY PICTURES has the movie rights to Mass Effect. They are the same company that produced The Dark Knight, Inception, 300, and many more. Ray Muzyka, Greg Zeschuck and Casey Hudson of EA/Bioware are credited as 'executive' producers, and will have a say in some pre-production aspects (story, script), but ultimately it falls on Legendary and their chosen Director. So enough whining and crying about "Bioware needs to do this, and that" because you are barking up the wrong tree.

Second, they are not making this movie just for you die-hard fans. Get over it, and get over yourselves. Many of you feel that as fans of the game, you are entitled to something and that all your wants and needs must be answered. A true fan knows that this is a great action-adventure story, rivaling that of Star Wars, and should be shared with the rest of the world. You might think that you are their primary market, and you would be wrong. The actual gamers probably make up less then 10% of the potential film goers. Hell, DOOM had a bigger market, and look how that film turned out. "

I think that sums things up nicely, thanks SupR G

Modifié par chester013, 04 août 2011 - 05:33 .

[JediMaster_Murph]

mdoggy1214 and i are actually trying to approach this in an adult and reasonable way, whats keeping you from doing the same?

[JediMaster_Murph]

chester013 wrote...

Felt the need to post this from the IMDB boards, written by SupR G over there:

"First, EA/Bioware is not making this movie. They never were, and never will. They are a video game production company, not a film studio. LEGENDARY PICTURES has the movie rights to Mass Effect. They are the same company that produced The Dark Knight, Inception, 300, and many more. Ray Muzyka, Greg Zeschuck and Casey Hudson of EA/Bioware are credited as 'executive' producers, and will have a say in some pre-production aspects (story, script), but ultimately it falls on Legendary and their chosen Director. So enough whining and crying about "Bioware needs to do this, and that" because you are barking up the wrong tree.

Second, they are not making this movie just for you die-hard fans. Get over it, and get over yourselves. Many of you feel that as fans of the game, you are entitled to something and that all your wants and needs must be answered. A true fan knows that this is a great action-adventure story, rivaling that of Star Wars, and should be shared with the rest of the world. You might think that you are their primary market, and you would be wrong. The actual gamers probably make up less then 10% of the potential film goers. Hell, DOOM had a bigger market, and look how that film turned out. "

I think that sums things up nicely, thanks SupR G

bro, from the very beginning i stated i was going to see this movie, im just sayin it might not be the best to have it about shepards story in me1because for some people not everyone(littlezack) it will take away from the experience

[Massadonious1]

It wouldn't take away from my experience. This is Legendary's/Avi Arad's/director's playthrough in a nutshell.

And I'm willing to wager that a good 80-90% of the people who will end up seeing this movie will have no idea what the ME universe is about aside from the information they can glean off a quick Google search.

This production became less about us the second BioWare partnered with a major movie studio.

Modifié par Massadonious1, 04 août 2011 - 05:34 .

[Rockworm503]

 I'm having a hard time thanking anyone for the fact that the movie is being made at all.
Oh boy its ME1 where it will be played by some action start that wont resemble any of my shepards.....  Only way I would've watched this is if they stayed away from the games but I guess that was too much to ask for to.

[chester013]

JediMaster_Murph wrote...

chester013 wrote...

Felt the need to post this from the IMDB boards, written by SupR G over there:

"First, EA/Bioware is not making this movie. They never were, and never will. They are a video game production company, not a film studio. LEGENDARY PICTURES has the movie rights to Mass Effect. They are the same company that produced The Dark Knight, Inception, 300, and many more. Ray Muzyka, Greg Zeschuck and Casey Hudson of EA/Bioware are credited as 'executive' producers, and will have a say in some pre-production aspects (story, script), but ultimately it falls on Legendary and their chosen Director. So enough whining and crying about "Bioware needs to do this, and that" because you are barking up the wrong tree.

Second, they are not making this movie just for you die-hard fans. Get over it, and get over yourselves. Many of you feel that as fans of the game, you are entitled to something and that all your wants and needs must be answered. A true fan knows that this is a great action-adventure story, rivaling that of Star Wars, and should be shared with the rest of the world. You might think that you are their primary market, and you would be wrong. The actual gamers probably make up less then 10% of the potential film goers. Hell, DOOM had a bigger market, and look how that film turned out. "

I think that sums things up nicely, thanks SupR G

bro, from the very beginning i stated i was going to see this movie, im just sayin it might not be the best to have it about shepards story in me1because for some people not everyone(littlezack) it will take away from the experience

This wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, else I would have quoted an ongoing discussion within this thread.

And don't call be bro, guy.

[Rockworm503]

Biotic Sage wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

I'd argue that defining a story (and character) everyone has played differently is pretty much a screw up on itself. They should do a seperate, stand-alone story that may or may not be connected to the main storyline, like the novels.

No one is going to take away your experience with your Shepard.  Just think of the movie as seeing someone else's take on their Shepard.  No harm no foul.

YAY i'm paying 10 bucks to watch fanfiction.... no thanks.

[JediMaster_Murph]

Massadonious1 wrote...

It wouldn't take away from my experience. This is Legendary's/Avi Arad's/director's playthrough in a nutshell.

And I'm willing to wager that a good 80-90% of the people who will end up seeing this movie will have no idea what the ME universe is about aside from the information they can glean off a quick Google search.

This production became less about us the second BioWare partnered with a major movie studio.

[littlezack]

JediMaster_Murph wrote...

mdoggy1214 and i are actually trying to approach this in an adult and reasonable way, whats keeping you from doing the same?

Partly because I'm tired of saying the same thing over and over, and partly because there's no adult way to approach a childish thing. And it's not like I don't get some of the criticisms. I would prefer the story focus on something other than the first game (which it is, so this whole argument is academic) Might not agree, but I get the logic.

But the notion that a movie you don't even have to see is going to wreck the experience of a game you played years before is just...silly.

[Rockworm503]

masseffectfan00 wrote...

It's not about you guys, it's about the hundreds of millions of people havent played ME series

The problem with that is that their not playing the game because their not interested.  A movie isn't likely going to change that.

[JediMaster_Murph]

chester013 wrote...

JediMaster_Murph wrote...

chester013 wrote...

Felt the need to post this from the IMDB boards, written by SupR G over there:

"First, EA/Bioware is not making this movie. They never were, and never will. They are a video game production company, not a film studio. LEGENDARY PICTURES has the movie rights to Mass Effect. They are the same company that produced The Dark Knight, Inception, 300, and many more. Ray Muzyka, Greg Zeschuck and Casey Hudson of EA/Bioware are credited as 'executive' producers, and will have a say in some pre-production aspects (story, script), but ultimately it falls on Legendary and their chosen Director. So enough whining and crying about "Bioware needs to do this, and that" because you are barking up the wrong tree.

Second, they are not making this movie just for you die-hard fans. Get over it, and get over yourselves. Many of you feel that as fans of the game, you are entitled to something and that all your wants and needs must be answered. A true fan knows that this is a great action-adventure story, rivaling that of Star Wars, and should be shared with the rest of the world. You might think that you are their primary market, and you would be wrong. The actual gamers probably make up less then 10% of the potential film goers. Hell, DOOM had a bigger market, and look how that film turned out. "

I think that sums things up nicely, thanks SupR G

bro, from the very beginning i stated i was going to see this movie, im just sayin it might not be the best to have it about shepards story in me1because for some people not everyone(littlezack) it will take away from the experience

This wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, else I would have quoted an ongoing discussion within this thread.

And don't call be bro, guy.

wow my bad, i legitley mistaked you for the pwener, many apologies:blink:

[InkognitoY]

Biotic Sage wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

I'd argue that defining a story (and character) everyone has played differently is pretty much a screw up on itself. They should do a seperate, stand-alone story that may or may not be connected to the main storyline, like the novels.

No one is going to take away your experience with your Shepard.  Just think of the movie as seeing someone else's take on their Shepard.  No harm no foul.

My only issue that the movie will only improve the story visually. Every other department will be lacking, especially since they can't fit everything plot wise in ME1 into a movie. 

[ThatDancingTurian]

"First, EA/Bioware is not making this movie. They never were, and never will. They are a video game production company, not a film studio. LEGENDARY PICTURES has the movie rights to Mass Effect. They are the same company that produced The Dark Knight, Inception, 300, and many more. ..."

I love when people go "They made The Dark Knight!" as opposed to, say, "They made Superman Returns / Lady In The Water / 10,000 BC / Jonah Hex!"

[ThePwener]

Rockworm503 wrote...

 I'm having a hard time thanking anyone for the fact that the movie is being made at all.
Oh boy its ME1 where it will be played by some action start that wont resemble any of my shepards.....  Only way I would've watched this is if they stayed away from the games but I guess that was too much to ask for to.

Im actually glad it's about the trilogy and not about the First Contact War. Im very curious to see what form it will take. I don't care if the characters don't look alike or that the narrative is off. It's ME people, forget about the damn canon and just be happy with it.

Some "fans" are so irritating.

[Rockworm503]

Biotic Sage wrote...

ThanesSniper wrote...

masseffectfan00 wrote...

It's not about you guys, it's about the hundreds of millions of people havent played ME series

Well if they see it and like it, why would they buy the game if they already know what happens?

Why whould they buy the game if they don't see a ME movie if they haven't by now?  I don't know about you, but if I saw a kickass movie and learned there was a game for it that let you make choices based in that universe, I would be pretty down for it.

Plus, what about people who don't play video games like Mass Effect? (i.e. the vast majority of the people in the world)

Yeah the majority doesn't get to go see a kick ass movie every weekend.  There are hardly ever enough action movies these days.  So lets take our beloved Mass Effect and hollywoodize it.  I heard Micheal Bay is free.  Anyone interested in Shia Labouf playing shepard?  YEA you might be excited for this but the very concept is a slap in the face to everyone who plays the game whether you realize it or not.

[Massadonious1]

JediMaster_Murph wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

It wouldn't take away from my experience. This is Legendary's/Avi Arad's/director's playthrough in a nutshell.

And I'm willing to wager that a good 80-90% of the people who will end up seeing this movie will have no idea what the ME universe is about aside from the information they can glean off a quick Google search.

This production became less about us the second BioWare partnered with a major movie studio.

Well gee, thanks for that.

And which is just my opinion, man?

I'm pretty sure it's not the last part because I would think they have every intention of trying to turn this in to a profitiable movie franchise. Unless I have the whole notion of captialism wrong.