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Movie is going to fail


videogames dont translate into movies well.

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Woulda been better as the First Contact War I think.
They'd have more freedom to do stuff.
Too many things people will disagree with like gender of Shep, Shep's LI, who dies on Virmire to name a few.

If only FCW, young Anderson and possibly TIM's backstory too! *sigh*

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An original story set in the ME universe would have been more appealing to me as well. However, Im still going to watch it. Shepard's true story is the one that I created in the vdieo games, but I wouldnt mind someone elses vision of him on the big screen either.

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I think it should be about the first contact war and Anderson because that basicly shows humanities entrance into galactic society and a good starting point for newcomers

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At least they can use Keith David as Captain Anderson again, and Lance Henriksen as Admiral Hackett, and Seth Green as Joker and whoever did whatever voice and could easily play the part. If they don't, all hell's gonna break loose.

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*sigh*
I kind of want to scratch a chalkboard now.

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I think it'd been better if it played outside the story of the games, but that would be good and creative.

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A courageous choice. It will not be easy for Bioware.

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One question that needs asking...  Will the film get the "Wing Commander" treatment.

And by that I mean. 

Taking something that has had years to develop a fully fleshed out background, story and asthetic. Then totally ignoring it for something irrelevant, insipid and laughable.

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Ugh please no...

If they base the movie on the events of the game they're just going to F it up. Either we'll follow the story with some made-up default Shepard or it'll be some boring side story. Creating a new default Shepard is especially bad because anyone who has played the games is going to be thinking that's not what my Shepard did...

Seriously you're going to ruin the series if you show general audiences one particular Shepard. Anyone who decides to jump into the series at that point, if the movie is any good, we'll be confused by the aspect of choice. And there's also the added stigma that everyone will hold the movie default Shepard as the real Shepard with their actions etc. Seems counter to the idea of choice so heavily toted by the series.

Please I beg you to do something outside the main story. The first contact war would have honestly been perfect. If it's good everyone welcome as new material filling in the gaps. If it's another bad video game movie then we can at least not fume over it too much. Do not try and make any of the 3 games into movies. It will not work. I'd like to see this movie turn out at least as watchable if nothing else.

Modifié par Bluko, 24 juillet 2011 - 06:14 .


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I bet Shepard will be renegade, because it's more "interesting" to watch.

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If I could only round up all you whiners in a rocket..and fire it at the Sun.

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I was so looking forward to seeing the First Contact War on screen, that story has so much potential!

In fact, Bioware should make an ME3 DLC about FCW, meaning you leave the current timeline for a while and go back to that point in time...would be awesome to see/play it hands on.

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Except that, after ME3, that'll be the end of Shepard's story. So.

And besides, most media - hell, just about all of it - depicts Sheploo as THE Shepard, anyway. You see him on promotional art, screens, box covers, et cetera. It's only recently that they've even entertained the idea of female Shepard trailer, and we've yet to see it. And it's ridiculous to think that '90%' of the fanbase are going to know Shepard from the movie - since most of the fanbase has kind of, you know, played the damn game. As for people who haven't, who cares what they think or percieve? If it doesn't change your playthrough, why is it such a big deal?


Because the credible media does not. The writers have purposely avoided a canon, and because of this movie and the picture/setting/popularity that it can have, it'll change that ideal to avoid a canon. The fans will want to see more and where there's an opportunity to make money, they won't turn it down.

But alas, I guess my fragile ego is just overreacting. I suppose it wouldn't mean so much except the fact that they've told and reassured us from day one there was no canon.

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Sierra Crysis wrote...

littlezack wrote...
Except that, after ME3, that'll be the end of Shepard's story. So.

And besides, most media - hell, just about all of it - depicts Sheploo as THE Shepard, anyway. You see him on promotional art, screens, box covers, et cetera. It's only recently that they've even entertained the idea of female Shepard trailer, and we've yet to see it. And it's ridiculous to think that '90%' of the fanbase are going to know Shepard from the movie - since most of the fanbase has kind of, you know, played the damn game. As for people who haven't, who cares what they think or percieve? If it doesn't change your playthrough, why is it such a big deal?


Because the credible media does not. The writers have purposely avoided a canon, and because of this movie and the picture/setting/popularity that it can have, it'll change that ideal to avoid a canon. The fans will want to see more and where there's an opportunity to make money, they won't turn it down.

But alas, I guess my fragile ego is just overreacting. I suppose it wouldn't mean so much except the fact that they've told and reassured us from day one there was no canon.


Regardless of what the movie does, there still won't be a canon within the game.

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

I find it funny that they've been talking about a Mass Effect movie for months now, and it's not even in production. Hell they don't have a director, writer, actors or any of that yet.

The writer was at the legendary panel talking about the movie. Casey Hudson said the script is ready and they're now making a second draft.

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Bluko wrote...

Ugh please no...

If they base the movie on the events of the game they're just going to F it up. Either we'll follow the story with some made-up default Shepard or it'll be some boring side story. Creating a new default Shepard is especially bad because anyone who has played the games is going to be thinking that's not what my Shepard did...

Seriously you're going to ruin the series if you show general audiences one particular Shepard. Anyone who decides to jump into the series at that point, if the movie is any good, we'll be confused by the aspect of choice. And there's also the added stigma that everyone will hold the movie default Shepard as the real Shepard with their actions etc. Seems counter to the idea of choice so heavily toted by the series.

Please I beg you to do something outside the main story. The first contact war would have honestly been perfect. If it's good everyone welcome as new material filling in the gaps. If it's another bad video game movie then we can at least not fume over it too much. Do not try and make any of the 3 games into movies. It will not work. I'd like to see this movie turn out at least as watchable if nothing else.

The decision has already been made and some things are already prepared.

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Vote in the poll: Are you happy Mass Effect Movie will adapt ME1?

Also vote in our previous poll: Who would you like to direct Mass Effect movie?

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I'll be happy if they cast Seth Green as Joker.

And for those who are in dire fear that the film will establish a "canon Shepard", keep in mind that the dialogue in the movie will at most be loosely based around the dialogue of the game. I'm sure they'll do their best to make Shepard fit both paragon and renegade roles. You have to keep in mind too that they're not making the film with the mentality that the only people who will see it are those who have played Mass Effect. While you might want nothing more then to see a film with your full renegade or full paragon Shepard, or even small individual choices you would have made differently, the Shepard to be displayed in the movie will be the most relate-able character possible for the casual movie-goer. The writers/actors will do their best to make a Shepard who will disappoint the least amount of people, and will adhere to both people who have played the games and people who have never heard of Mass Effect until the first film trailer.

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B.t.w. - the poll sucks.
The options are skewed. You got a Yes option for a ME1 based movie and a NO option (I want FCW) and indifferent. So those that don't want FCW or ME1..they can only select the FCW options as no..thus skewing the results.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Tehre is difference between 0 critics and unreasonable critics.

See, the whiners here are unreasonable and their logic is broken and twisted.

Criticism can only be complete and valid if it's based on clearn and concise element, rational thinking and possesion of all the facts.
No sane individual ever would just go around and say "this movie will suck" just based on just who the main character is, and wihout even knowing anything on the move story/pacing and actors. There isn't even a trailer yet.

We have 20 years of film-making history, which encompasses the entire time that this kind of adaption could be made. Those exceptions which exist, did not attempt to copy the plot from a game. Our opposition is extremely reasonable, as opposed to the blind optimism of those expecting it to be good.

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

B.t.w. - the poll sucks.
The options are skewed. You got a Yes option for a ME1 based movie and a NO option (I want FCW) and indifferent. So those that don't want FCW or ME1..they can only select the FCW options as no..thus skewing the results.

Incorrect. The poll asked if the respondents wanted a different part of the ME lore, and gave FCW as an example. Even with your supposed bias, which would work against the 'Other Lore' option, about 2/3 voted for the 'Other Lore'. Only 1/4 voted in favor of the Shepard centric film.

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Bluko wrote...

Ugh please no...

If they base the movie on the events of the game they're just going to F it up. Either we'll follow the story with some made-up default Shepard or it'll be some boring side story. Creating a new default Shepard is especially bad because anyone who has played the games is going to be thinking that's not what my Shepard did...

Seriously you're going to ruin the series if you show general audiences one particular Shepard. Anyone who decides to jump into the series at that point, if the movie is any good, we'll be confused by the aspect of choice. And there's also the added stigma that everyone will hold the movie default Shepard as the real Shepard with their actions etc. Seems counter to the idea of choice so heavily toted by the series.

Please I beg you to do something outside the main story. The first contact war would have honestly been perfect. If it's good everyone welcome as new material filling in the gaps. If it's another bad video game movie then we can at least not fume over it too much. Do not try and make any of the 3 games into movies. It will not work. I'd like to see this movie turn out at least as watchable if nothing else.


Nitpicking at the bold: If people think that way, then it's unfortunate that so many people are closed minded people who are selfish about video game characters (which is sad) and if a new person to the series watches the movie before playing the game jumps to the conclusion that the movie Shep is canon then they're either not doing their research to find that NO SHEP IS UNIVERSALLY DEFINED AS CANON and that "canon" is only created for the individual player or that same person is oblivious to the amounts of choices and repercussions that the Mass Effect games utilize.

To be honest, I believe only those who are too radical about video games transitioning to the popular media; positive or negative perspectives, are inputting ample time and effort into something that's not as important as other things like putting the same amount of enthusiasm into a job, a family, or friends. Procuring a movie through the basis of Mass Effect 1's storyline is something that'll just happen either good or bad. Whatever the case, nobody should mind. It's really not that important to get hot-headed over.

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SandTrout wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Tehre is difference between 0 critics and unreasonable critics.

See, the whiners here are unreasonable and their logic is broken and twisted.

Criticism can only be complete and valid if it's based on clearn and concise element, rational thinking and possesion of all the facts.
No sane individual ever would just go around and say "this movie will suck" just based on just who the main character is, and wihout even knowing anything on the move story/pacing and actors. There isn't even a trailer yet.

We have 20 years of film-making history, which encompasses the entire time that this kind of adaption could be made. Those exceptions which exist, did not attempt to copy the plot from a game. Our opposition is extremely reasonable, as opposed to the blind optimism of those expecting it to be good.


Your opposition is senseless. There's no way to tell if a movie is good or not before one sees it. It's completely irrelvant if it's adapted from a novel or game.
Any and all adaptations can be good, with proper people and care.

And if you're saiyng ath all game adaptation that followed hte game story sucked and those that idn't we re good...then I really don't know what movies you were watching..



Lotion Soronnar wrote...

B.t.w. - the poll sucks.
The options are skewed. You got a Yes option for a ME1 based movie and a NO option (I want FCW) and indifferent. So those that don't want FCW or ME1..they can only select the FCW options as no..thus skewing the results.

Incorrect. The poll asked if the respondents wanted a different part of the ME lore, and gave FCW as an example. Even with your supposed bias, which would work against the 'Other Lore' option, about 2/3 voted for the 'Other Lore'. Only 1/4 voted in favor of the Shepard centric film.


Again...Where is the "jsut no" option?

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ME-ParaShep wrote...

Nitpicking at the bold: If people think that way, then it's unfortunate that so many people are closed minded people who are selfish about video game characters (which is sad) and if a new person to the series watches the movie before playing the game jumps to the conclusion that the movie Shep is canon then they're either not doing their research to find that NO SHEP IS UNIVERSALLY DEFINED AS CANON and that "canon" is only created for the individual player or that same person is oblivious to the amounts of choices and repercussions that the Mass Effect games utilize.

To be honest, I believe only those who are too radical about video games transitioning to the popular media; positive or negative perspectives, are inputting ample time and effort into something that's not as important as other things like putting the same amount of enthusiasm into a job, a family, or friends. Procuring a movie through the basis of Mass Effect 1's storyline is something that'll just happen either good or bad. Whatever the case, nobody should mind. It's really not that important to get hot-headed over.


It doesn't matter who's played the game or not, by creating a Shepard in the movie they will have finally established a canon character because Bioware approved it. That means from that point on anyone who has likely seen the movie will feel that Shepard should be just like they are in the movie as that is the Shepard. The whole point of creating the game series was to let you be Cmdr. Shepard. Essentially the movie if based on the first game imposes upon everyone who Shepard is suppose to be.

I have no issue with video games being made into movies, anymore so then I would a book. Only difference is Mass Effect doesn't have a story like most novels because it's potentially many. Establishing one after the fact just seems in poor taste.

If they really do base the movie on the first game then they're basically showing how much disregard they have for the fans as apparently they figure that there are just enough diehard fanboys along with the general movie-going audience will make it profitable. Why not instead make a movie that both people who know nothing about Mass Effect and those who are fans of the game can enjoy? Why would any of the 3 million or so of us who played ME1want to see a 2 hour movie of a 40 hourish game? The games are fairly cinematic to begin with why do we want movies of them?

And there's the other problem. You're trying to condense the experience of 30+ hour game into a 2 hour format. That's not going to work real well as it will be about impossible for them to do justice to the characters. Heck even covering all of the main story missions is hard to squeeze into movie format.


I was actually quite hopeful for the Mass Effect Movie because intial rumor suggested it would be based mostly on the First Contact War which IMO is a perfect setting. Those of us who played the game get some more backstory about how everything began (maybe even see a young Anderson) and new folks who haven't or don't play video games get to experience it. Anyone who thinks the First Contact War and humanity's introduction into the galaxy at large wouldn't make for a good movie should consider it more. It'd be an excellent change of pace from the simple alien invaders and you could have some really strong lead characters.

Also I haven't actually seen a statement yet saying the movie is going to be ME1's story. So mayhaps there is hope yet.

Modifié par Bluko, 25 juillet 2011 - 11:58 .


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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I've already seen the story of Shepard and it was amazing. Why would I want to see it condensed into two hours of bullet points with different actors?


Different actors? Not sure what your getting at. Shepard doesn't count because there is already a million differant versions of him and one more won't bug me. The rest of the actors can look and sound exactly like they do in the game.