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[zils]

Just got the game. Playing through i was told to do 1 of 3 main quests. I picked Therum to find Liara. You cant possible do that at the level i went. Why doesnt the game warn you? I read you should do side quests before you do these. A LITTLE Warning would be nice that i can return once i enter a planet. So what can i do? any help?


I cant kill the boss, i cant return. 

[Golden Owl]

Start again Zils and build up some points by trolling the Citadel for as many on Citadel missions you can find first before you head out...then yep, go get Liara, a few side missions after that to build up a few more points...then go to Noveria (heads up on Noveria...take biotics and grenades with you...keep the grenades, until, you will know exactly when) and leave Feros until you are packing at least 5-6 grenades (once again you will know when for the grenades)....That should see you through.

[Bogsnot1]

Enemies scale to your level, so no planet or quest is impossible to do.
There was one critic who initially panned the game, calling it impossible, because he didnt realise you actually had to allocate points into skills, as well as upgade your equipment. I assume you are not making the same mistake?

[The Grey Ranger]

If all else fails, you can always drop the difficulty down to casual. There is no real penalty for it unless you're trying for one of the difficulty achievements. If you're talking about the fight with the krogan after you get Liara, try moving into cover over to your right (opposite from the krogan) You can use the cover to help deal with the geth and have some cover from their fire.

I'd also suggest, making a hard save before you land on a planet and keep it until you finish the planet. That way if it's too rough you can reload the save and go level up some more.

If you've leveled up any biotics be sure to use them at the start of the fight to give yourself some time to get the fight under control. Tech powers from Tali, Kaiden or Garrus can also help especially sabotage, overload and hacking.

[CajNatalie]

That armature is no problem.

There's a crate to your left... and on the left of that crate is a spot where you can safely aim at the troopers and hoppers while the armature blasts your squad.

If you want to keep your squad safe, just use the 'hold' order on them both the moment the battle starts... they usually take cover (pretty much one of the only times hold results in good squad AI... or maybe I'm just consistently lucky).

Once you're done picking off the peons, command your squad to regroup/follow so they'll be able to take aim on the armature. Sabotage and/or Lift the armature to turn it docile, slap Warp and/or Overload on it to soften it up, then you can literally run right up to it and shoot it until it dies. Though if you do run up to it, I recommend circle-strafing once you're up close, just in case you can't kill it quick enough and it overcomes the lift/sabotage.

If your problem is the Krogan, then Lift/Warp/Overload (do not Sabotage krogan!) and focus fire.
Use sabotage on the rocket trooper, but try to land it so it sabotages other troopers with it in the blast.

Next priority is the troopers.
If you ever see a red beam, sabotage or throw the sniper.

Modifié par CajNatalie, 23 juillet 2011 - 04:47 .

[Golden Owl]

CajNatalie wrote...

That armature is no problem.

There's a crate to your left... and on the left of that crate is a spot where you can safely aim at the troopers and hoppers while the armature blasts your squad.

If you want to keep your squad safe, just use the 'hold' order on them both the moment the battle starts... they usually take cover (pretty much one of the only times hold results in good squad AI... or maybe I'm just consistently lucky).

Once you're done picking off the peons, command your squad to regroup/follow so they'll be able to take aim on the armature. Sabotage and/or Lift the armature to turn it docile, slap Warp and/or Overload on it to soften it up, then you can literally run right up to it and shoot it until it dies. Though if you do run up to it, I recommend circle-strafing once you're up close, just in case you can't kill it quick enough and it overcomes the lift/sabotage.

You can also shoot the Armature through the gabs in the fence/wall railing beside it....can only do so if you use a snipers rifle though, the swing is a pain in the *ss, but if your patient, the Armature will fall.

[AlexMBrennan]

Well, yes, Therum is easy as long as you know that Shepard will be facing a krogan battle master in close quarters; unfortunately it is not possible to restart the mission with a different squad (e.g. if you stupidly bring Garrus and Tali*) so you may be forced to reload a (possibly much) earlier save.
Note: If a mission requires the player to have read the guide and/or have completed the mission in a different career, then the game is not noob friendly

*Unlike the armature, the krogan will charge so you have about 5s to kill him before you have to reload the game (unless you have heavy Colossus armour with X Ablative Plating and/or maxed out Immunity, that is - good luck getting that by time Shepard is made a Spectre)

[turian councilor Knockout]

Krogan battle master- Strong throw or lift, very useful and a good weapon shotgun (carnage) or sniper (assassination), knock him down and finish him off.

[DominicT109]

Just another tip, Never let a Krogan Battle Master, Geth Destroyer, or Geth Prime get close to you. Lift is about the best to deal with them.

Modifié par DominicT109, 23 juillet 2011 - 09:13 .

[phyreblade74]

You sound like me, when I started my first PT. All I seemed able to do real well was "die". I just couldn't get the game mechanics down-pat, so my combat was one fatality after another. I was purely frustrated.

Funny, I finally gave up on the same mission you're referring to, Therum. I reached the point where you get to enter the mine and you have to take out that big tank-looking geth, and I died and died and died...I finally looked at my husband and said, "This ain't working."

I started over, created a new Shepard, with a different class, set the game level to casual and started playing. That PT was the one that helped me better appreciate the mechanics I was working with, and I gradually started establishing a feel for the tactics the game was set up for. My current PT is on "normal" setting and I'm doing fine. I'm hoping to move the settings up again in future PT's.

Don't hesitate to take your time to figure things out, I suppose.

[LeonBrass]

@Zils - I also felt this way the first time I played -- I died a lot before getting to that Battlemaster... and like you, I had no suitable save and was stuck... I played thru that fight over and over, more times than I can remember (and broke a xbox controller against a wall!) but I finally got thru it by going thru every menu option, squad screen etc. until I learned how the game was working...learned about pausing, setting up squad mate power attacks etc.

For the Noobs -
1. XP is your friend, take time to find as many bits of xp that you can, as soon as you hit any new area.
2. Every choice you make at the start matters -- particularly your class (soldier, adept, etc)
but you won't know how it matters unless you slow down and read the class description carefully, with special attention to weapon training.. in ME pistols are used by all classes, so focus on upgrading and adding skill points to pistols early on.
3. Don't try to be a jack of all trades, you will be too weak early on unless you focus your efforts on adding skill points to just a couple of skills --- take time to scroll across the skill bar and see what each point added will do.
4. Keep up with weapon and armor upgrades
5. save your game a lot, repeat --- a lot!

[F00lishG]

You have to think. Not every battle can be won by shooting straight. That was the first lesson I learned when I went to Therum on my first playthrough.

[LeviathanZero]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Well, yes, Therum is easy as long as you know that Shepard will be facing a krogan battle master in close quarters; unfortunately it is not possible to restart the mission with a different squad (e.g. if you stupidly bring Garrus and Tali*) so you may be forced to reload a (possibly much) earlier save.

Or, once you see a bipedal Rhino charging you you just do the Time Warp.
Same thing helps you with most charging enemies "It's just a jump to the left..."

[turian councilor Knockout]

To LeonB, Pistols are too weak to be good here, you have to kill the battle master fast before he charge you that's why high powered weaponry should be used instead and Zils always have a biotic with you.

[The Grey Ranger]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

To LeonB, Pistols are too weak to be good here, you have to kill the battle master fast before he charge you that's why high powered weaponry should be used instead and Zils always have a biotic with you.

Which is why pistol+master marksman is excellent, since it has the highest dps in the game.

[LeonBrass]

@Turian CK & Grey Ranger - I agree with both of you... I thought I said what I meant, but as usual I left off some added points. Oh, well --
This is a TEAM game (unless u r one of the solo-insanity artists) so use the team to take down the bosses. playing as Cmdr Shepard "solo killing machine" is fun, but ultimately fails for most of us.
Don't get too focused on just one weapon either, pistols are great IMO, but you probably won't get to Master marksman by this point unless you only put points there, which is not quite what I meant. You can get Advance Marksman and add on an early version of a rail extension or high caliber barrel (with penalties) but I grab my shotgun to take down the geth up close, then switch to pistol on the Battle Master, pause to tell my squad to use overload/warp/stasis etc on him. I also back pedal fast to make his charge longer if I mess up. (and use medi=gel shamelessly)

I play as a Vanguard btw...

Modifié par LeonBrass, 10 août 2011 - 03:32 .

[The Grey Ranger]

Given a choice, if I'm playing a non-biotic Shep I take Tali and Kaidan. Work on getting Tali master hacking and Kaidan lift, and you can absolutely own Therum. For the outside fight, hack the armature, right at the start and watch the hoppers die via siege pulse, then sabotage and overload the armature and kill it.

For the battlemaster fight, hack one of the geth, the shock trooper for preference. This will cause them all to focus and give you time to get the fight under control. Kaiden can then use lift on the group, since hacking tends to keep them bunched up.    Either way hacking can pretty much break both fights.

Modifié par The Grey Ranger, 10 août 2011 - 12:53 .

[sbvera13]

F00lishG wrote...

You have to think. Not every battle can be won by shooting straight. That was the first lesson I learned when I went to Therum on my first playthrough.

This.  ME1 is more of a tactical game than either ME2 or any other run-of-the mill shooter.  You gotta use cover, be aware of lines of fire, and position your squad carefully.

[KotorEffect3]

There is a learning curve but it isn't too difficult, I would say slow down and be aware of your surroundings, learn your class abilities and learn what your squadmates can do so you can use them efficiently in combat, keep an eye out for better gear as well.

[FFinfinity1]

I made the same mistake and managed to kill the boss with a little skill and a whole lot of luck