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[Sad Dragon]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Rokky94 wrote...

Just because support for something isn't essential doesn't mean you should push it aside.

Look at the comments in group. A lot of heteros have joined. They obviously have input there. Your worries are a non-issue.

Rokky does have a point though -- why not just have a "I support Sexuality" thing, I mean LGBPT is great and all but it does also puts emphesis on the difference between the norm (hetrosexuality) and everything else. Why not just try and encompass everything (including Hetrosexuality) into one thing as it is all about tolerance and I am sure that there are some idiot LGBPT people who are just as anti-hetro as there are idiot hetro people that are anti all things LGBPT. After all isn't it all about supporting Love?

Swordfishtrombone wrote...

Sad Dragon wrote...
...

It's
not quite that simple. You fail to mention hermafrodites, for one -
people born with both female and male genitalia. There are also people
with ambiguous genitalia. And there are transsexuals who have undergone a
sex change.

A bi-sexual may not be attracted one or any of the
people in these less common situations, but a pansexual wouldn't have
any qualms with being attracted to any one of them, if they are
attracted to their personality.

Thus it seems to me that there is something this term describes that is not covered by "bisexual".

You make a fair point and perhapps the best point I have yet to see in regards to Pansexuality, or rather the difference between pansexuality and bisexuality -- which I think is where a lot of people get stuck. Still not sure about classing it as a destictive sexuality as it is still to hard to clearly define. As you yourself say A Bi-sexual MAY not be...

In that particular case I would rather say that Pansexuality would define Bisexuality at its purests. Either way it is still to fuzzy for me to think of it as a strict sexuality. 

Hope that makes sense. ^^;

-TSD

[AngryFrozenWater]

Sad Dragon wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Rokky94 wrote...

Just because support for something isn't essential doesn't mean you should push it aside.

Look at the comments in group. A lot of heteros have joined. They obviously have input there. Your worries are a non-issue.

Rokky does have a point though -- why not just have a "I support Sexuality" thing, I mean LGBPT is great and all but it does also puts emphesis on the difference between the norm (hetrosexuality) and everything else. Why not just try and encompass everything (including Hetrosexuality) into one thing as it is all about tolerance and I am sure that there are some idiot LGBPT people who are just as anti-hetro as there are idiot hetro people that are anti all things LGBPT. After all isn't it all about supporting Love?

You got the main idea. There are differences, though. The heteros don't have to fight for equality in society and they don't face intolerance. They are in a comfortable position that doesn't need any support. It is that simple.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 24 juillet 2011 - 11:47 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

I made a silly mistake there, Moh. I forgot the word "for", just before "equality". I corrected that in my original post.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 24 juillet 2011 - 11:52 .

[Sad Dragon]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Sad Dragon wrote...
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You got the main idea. There are differences, though. The heteros don't have to fight for equality in society and they don't face intolerance. They are in a comfortable position that doesn't need any support. It is that simple.

I think you might have missed my point -- or rather I proably didnt explain myself good eought

I'm saying why not instead of centering something around the intolerance -- which we are in a round about way -- focus on the main issue in all it's splender. One of the most powerfull things in human society is the us against them mentality so why give it even a possibility to grow? You would get the same effect if you made a "Every sexuality is awesome"-movement as you would if you made a support movment for LGBPT as -- as you already said -- hetrosexuals doesnt really face any intolerance but at the same time it would not be as easy to lable an us and them with it as hetrosexuals are part of the name.

For as I already said, this is after all about Love, and even hetrosexuals things that is a good idea. Might be a bit more of a packaging discussion rather then anything else but still a valid one i think.

-TSD

[AngryFrozenWater]

Sad Dragon wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Sad Dragon wrote...
...

You got the main idea. There are differences, though. The heteros don't have to fight for equality in society and they don't face intolerance. They are in a comfortable position that doesn't need any support. It is that simple.

I think you might have missed my point -- or rather I proably didnt explain myself good eought

I'm saying why not instead of centering something around the intolerance -- which we are in a round about way -- focus on the main issue in all it's splender. One of the most powerfull things in human society is the us against them mentality so why give it even a possibility to grow? You would get the same effect if you made a "Every sexuality is awesome"-movement as you would if you made a support movment for LGBPT as -- as you already said -- hetrosexuals doesnt really face any intolerance but at the same time it would not be as easy to lable an us and them with it as hetrosexuals are part of the name.

For as I already said, this is after all about Love, and even hetrosexuals things that is a good idea. Might be a bit more of a packaging discussion rather then anything else but still a valid one i think.

-TSD

That's great. You can either create a new group or preach your idealogy within "Love the Love" or simply don't do anything at all and achieve nothing.

[Gterror]

mohsen m hangani wrote...

Gterror wrote...

Pansexuals.....what the hell?

Whats wrong with them?

We are humans and we have feelings. Everyone is born in his/her own way. And no one can and should be blamed for what he/she is. One is straight, one is a gay and so on. We cant blame them and criticize them for who they are. This them. We should respoect them and like them the way they are. Everyone is free to choos and is free to live his/her own life, in the way he/she likes, without hurting others in the process of course. And no one shouled ever try to change them. If one tries to, then that person is no longer him/herself. It is our free will and emotions that makes us what we are and who we are. It is what makes us human.

i didnt meant anything about the people who are pansexuals, just a weird name

[Kaiser Shepard]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Apparently I've been invited to join this group, although I honestly don't quite understand why...

Maybe to support that community? It doesn't mean you have to belong to it.

I really don't see any need for support on my part, as the holebi part of the fanbase seems perfectly capable of speaking for itself... hell, they might be one of its most vocal parts.

[Swordfishtrombone]

mohsen m hangani wrote...

Swordfishtrombone wrote...


Thus it seems to me that there is something this term describes that is not covered by "bisexual".

What could that thing possibily be?

The answer to that is in the post you quoted, before the sentence you quoted.

My point was simply that the meaning of the term "pansexual" isn't identical to the meaning of the term "bisexual".

[Swordfishtrombone]

Gterror wrote...

i didnt meant anything about the people who are pansexuals, just a weird name

Well, the "pan" in pansexual (like the "pan" in pantheist), comes from an ancient greek word that means "all".

[RhiGibson]

When I first told my friends that I was pansexual and in a relationship with another girl they all said ...

"WELL THANK GOD, we thought pansexual was you having an unnatural obsession to kitchen utensils" :')

[Ulous]

RhiGibson wrote...

When I first told my friends that I was pansexual and in a relationship with another girl they all said ...

"WELL THANK GOD, we thought pansexual was you having an unnatural obsession to kitchen utensils" :')

.......................*Tumbleweed*............................

Modifié par Ulous, 24 juillet 2011 - 07:55 .

[Laamaa]

RhiGibson wrote...

When I first told my friends that I was pansexual and in a relationship with another girl they all said ...

"WELL THANK GOD, we thought pansexual was you having an unnatural obsession to kitchen utensils" :')

Lol, your friends are very openminded x)

[NamiraWilhelm]

RhiGibson wrote...

When I first told my friends that I was pansexual and in a relationship with another girl they all said ...

"WELL THANK GOD, we thought pansexual was you having an unnatural obsession to kitchen utensils" :')

haha xD

[SilentNukee]

RhiGibson wrote...

When I first told my friends that I was pansexual and in a relationship with another girl they all said ...

"WELL THANK GOD, we thought pansexual was you having an unnatural obsession to kitchen utensils" :')

...LOLOL. 
Ok, this was hilarious. And, *high five*.

[naughty99]

As a supporter of civil liberties for everyone, I have to say, I saw the slideshow for all the gay couples who got married today in New York and I think it's great.

Link

The couples getting married look really happy, they have been waiting a long time for this day, and I believe they should have the right to marry whoever they want.

[Stanley Woo]

Spam and immature comments removed.

[Homebound]

i think ALL people no matter what sexual orrientation should have the right to be unhappy in a marriage.

all joking aside, i support the lgbt community. no idea what the p in lgbpt stands for so i'll hold off on that until i understand what it is.

EDIT: wait, PANsexual? ok, someones deliberately trying to confuse me.

Modifié par Hellbound555, 25 juillet 2011 - 03:45 .

[naughty99]

Hellbound555 wrote...

i think ALL people no matter what sexual orrientation should have the right to be unhappy in a marriage.

LOL that is true, I bet divorce lawyers are loving the prospect of having their client pool increased.

Modifié par naughty99, 25 juillet 2011 - 03:49 .