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[sponge56]

[quote]MDT1 wrote...

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Then name and quote them please.

Like: Ingame Codex about Earth:

The homeworld and capital of humanity
is entering a new golden age. The resource wealth of a dozen settled
colonies and a hundred industrial outposts flows back to Earth, fueling
great works of industry, commerce, and art. The great cities are
greening as arcology skyscrapers and telecommuting allow more efficient
use of land.
Earth is still divided among nation-states, though all are affiliated beneath the overarching banner of the Systems Alliance.
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Right, this from the codex clearly negates zulus and others argument that earth is a slum that needs to die. If they read this and continue the argument then they are just trolling

[MDT1]

My theory is the whole "Earth=slum" argumentation is based on an ingame comment that actually refered to global warming.

[CroGamer002]

^Why check in-game Codex while we have that Salarian on Noveria when saying Earthborn Shepard to shove it?

[Ieldra]

My answer to this topic.

[Someone With Mass]

Just a side note.

It's on Titan, one of Saturn's moons where the Alliance is training its marines in a hostile environment.

[CroGamer002]

Ieldra2 wrote...

My answer to this topic.

Fixed link.

[didymos1120]

Fixers0 wrote...

LIES, that is not from the Codex, that is ME wiki fanboy crap.

Oh, you want some Codex quotes?  OK.

Earth is still divided among nation-states, though all are affiliated beneath the overarching banner of the Systems Alliance.

ALL are affiliated.

The Systems Alliance is an independent supranational government representing the interests of humanity as a whole.

SUPRAnational.  That means nations are part of it and that it is a higher level of organziation than both colonies and nation-states. Also: humanity as a WHOLE. 

How 'bout a quote from Revelation?

Within a year the charter for the human Systems Alliance—the first all-encompassing global coalition—had been written and ratified by Earth’s eighteen largest nation-states. For the first time in recorded history the inhabitants of Earth began to see themselves as a single, collective group: human as opposed to alien.

The Systems Alliance Military—a force dedicated to the protection and defense of Earth and its citizens against non-Terran threats—was formed soon after, drawing resources, soldiers, and officers from nearly every military organization on the planet.

Regardless of the fact that the SA gained legally independent status and the power of direct colonial rule after the FCW, that history doesn't just vanish, Earth doesn't magically become capable of its own defense against external threat, nor does it make the SA independent of Earth in every, single sense of the word.

And there're a bunch more bits in the novel that make it crystal clear that the Alliance post-FCW is considered the representative of humanity.  All of it.  Not "Humanity....well except for the 99% of the species on Earth".  For example:

“These appointed Council representatives will also conduct regular inspections of all Alliance facilities and colonies, including Earth, to ensure you are in compliance with the laws and regulations of the Citadel.”

or:

Humanity had chosen her as their representative, their champion. It was her duty to defend the rights of every man, woman, and child on Earth and across Alliance space.

See, you're improperly conflating the notion that the Alliance doesn't govern Earth with the ideas that it is uninvolved with Earth and has no influence over Earth (and vice-versa).  This is silly, and especially so in the post-ME1-era where the Alliance holds a Council seat.  That equates to some major political capital on Earth, regardless of whether the Alliance is formally in charge there. 

There's also all the little things you're overlooking, like the fact that the Alliance is clearly allowed to freely recruit personnel from anywhere on Earth.  Like, say, Earthborn Shep.  Or this little tidbit in the email you receive after you find the MSV Estevanico in ME2:

From: Dr. Richard Talos, Curator
Alliance Museum of Galactic Exploration, Earth

An Alliance museum on Earth?  Fancy that.

Or even the background info about Terra Firma:

Terra Firma is an Alliance political party formed after the First Contact War. Its policy agenda is based on the principle that Earth must stand firm against alien influences.

Good enough?

Modifié par didymos1120, 25 juillet 2011 - 11:55 .

[WoolyJoe]

We should be glad Earth's burning? What a cretin

*Eh, they meh beh hu-mans and it meh beh teh place in which our species evolved and achieved sentience, filled wi' over two thousand years of art and philosophy, but, as that ol' Alliance sayin' goes: 'Not making moneh? Go fudge yourself'*

Modifié par WoolyJoe, 25 juillet 2011 - 11:58 .

[Someone With Mass]

Can someone close this stupid thread now? It's obvious that ditching Earth is a very moronic idea.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 25 juillet 2011 - 11:58 .

[HunterX6]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Gee, I wonder if has something to do with the billions of humans, both rich and poor, including the potential leaders of companies and nations, the very same nations that created the Alliance being located on Earth...

amen

[squee365]

Why would the Alliance leave human lives to die on Earth when they know they CAN evacuate some of them?

Stop looking too much into it, its not that complicated.

[Fixers0]

squee365 wrote...

Why would the Alliance leave human lives to die on Earth when they know they CAN evacuate some of them?

Stop looking too much into it, its not that complicated.

Why should you bother sending ships do their doom.

 the Alliance is much better of without earth.

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...

Why should you bother sending ships do their doom.

 the Alliance is much better of without earth.

And that's a complete lie.

[Fixers0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Why should you bother sending ships do their doom.

 the Alliance is much better of without earth.

And that's a complete lie.

No, Pointlessly Wasting resources is a lie.

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...
No, Pointlessly Wasting resources is a lie.

So is defeating the purpose of the Alliance.

[Fixers0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...
No, Pointlessly Wasting resources is a lie.

So is defeating the purpose of the Alliance.

And that of Goverment armies

[ShepardTheMetalhead]

Fixers0 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...
No, Pointlessly Wasting resources is a lie.

So is defeating the purpose of the Alliance.

And that of Goverment armies

You don't know when to give up, do you Fixer?

[LOLandStuff]

Never give up. Hold on to your ridiculous logic and be proud, man.
I lol a lot.

[ShepardTheMetalhead]

LOLandStuff wrote...

Never give up. Hold on to your ridiculous logic and be proud, man.
I lol a lot.

Same here, bro, same here haha.

[Fixers0]

LOLandStuff wrote...

Never give up. Hold on to your ridiculous logic and be proud, man.
I lol a lot.

At least it is logic, not the crap that bioware sell us.

[ShepardTheMetalhead]

Fixers0 wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Never give up. Hold on to your ridiculous logic and be proud, man.
I lol a lot.

At least it is logic, not the crap that bioware sell us.

Being that this logic you claim to have is complete biased BS, I think I'll stick with Bioware. If you think your writing skills are so godly that you can surpass the actual creators, then by all means put your money where your mouth is. But from what I've seen, your creations will be nothing short of illogical idiocracy. So go out and prove me wrong, and we'll all shut up.

[LOLandStuff]

Fixers0 wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Never give up. Hold on to your ridiculous logic and be proud, man.
I lol a lot.

At least it is logic, not the crap that bioware sell us.

You're right. You should be the one to save the Galaxy from the Reapers. I always knew using your brain beats brute force. Because you sir, will blow the Reapers up with your logic, literally.
I am bearing here. But they don't know what we civilians know. That's our secret weapon. Plus, thinking too much fries our brain and smoke comes out of our ears.

Modifié par LOLandStuff, 25 juillet 2011 - 04:24 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Ugg this thread is too full of trolls grasping at straws because they lost and the SA is SUPPOSED to protect Earth,whether or not it is a bad idea or not is COMPLETELY irrelevant,it is a well known fact that running into burning building is a bad idea,but people do it anyway.

Please lock this thread and save us from eternal trolling.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 25 juillet 2011 - 04:35 .

[Fixers0]

LOLandStuff wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Never give up. Hold on to your ridiculous logic and be proud, man.
I lol a lot.

At least it is logic, not the crap that bioware sell us.

You're right. You should be the one to save the Galaxy from the Reapers. I always knew using your brain beats brute force. Because you sir, will blow the Reapers up with your logic, literally.
I am bearing here. But they don't know what we civilians know. That's our secret weapon. Plus, thinking too much fries our brain and smoke comes out of our ears.

And now we have the Collector base at our dissposal and were are going to give usless civilians a fake vacaction that will end up in a lot human goo so that we can make us an anti reaper weapon.

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...

At least it is logic, not the crap that bioware sell us.

If you don't like it, don't be here.