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[Lotion Soronarr]

Fixers logic is so broken it hurts me.... ...ow.....

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:09 .

[Fixers0]

ShepardTheMetalhead wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

The rest of us: 1+2=3
Fixers: 2+3=Chair.
It doesn't matter how much sense it makes that the alliance is helping Earth,he doesn't get that as much as he doesn't like it,it has been done,the SA IS helping and no matter how much he picks apart our posts he can't change that, logical or not,suicidal or not,it's what they are doing and that's the bottom line.

How many mainstream gamers will buy a game i which you are forced to sacrifice earth?, they  just don't understand.

The harder the fight,the more impossible the odds,the better the victory.

But all those gamer just want to shoot things and save earth, who cares if the fleet gets destroyed or any of that lore crap, just keep spamming the shoot buttion.

So we just allow the Alliance and all of its colonies to lose most, if not all of it's financial and military backing? Putting you in charge of anything begs for complete and utter failure.

Earth is just a sinkhole, the majority of the Alliance fundings comes from corporations anyway and those same corporations invest in colonies that have good resources or other advantages.  

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...
How many mainstream gamers will buy a game i which you are forced to sacrifice earth?, they  just don't understand.

All I heard when I read that was "I think I'm so much better than everyone else, because I need to feel smart when I'm playing a game, and the second a game isn't going the way I like it, it's mainstream."

[ShepardTheMetalhead]

Fixers0 wrote...

ShepardTheMetalhead wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

The rest of us: 1+2=3
Fixers: 2+3=Chair.
It doesn't matter how much sense it makes that the alliance is helping Earth,he doesn't get that as much as he doesn't like it,it has been done,the SA IS helping and no matter how much he picks apart our posts he can't change that, logical or not,suicidal or not,it's what they are doing and that's the bottom line.

How many mainstream gamers will buy a game i which you are forced to sacrifice earth?, they  just don't understand.

The harder the fight,the more impossible the odds,the better the victory.

But all those gamer just want to shoot things and save earth, who cares if the fleet gets destroyed or any of that lore crap, just keep spamming the shoot buttion.

So we just allow the Alliance and all of its colonies to lose most, if not all of it's financial and military backing? Putting you in charge of anything begs for complete and utter failure.

Earth is just a sinkhole, the majority of the Alliance fundings comes from corporations anyway and those same corporations invest in colonies that have good resources or other advantages.  

I would love to know where this vast fountain of truth is that you seem to be pulling your claims from. This is true how exactly? Where do you think the roots of those corporations are? Where do you think the fundings, backings, and manpower of those corporations come from? Is it really that hard for you to understand?

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...

So, you think that they can survive with a decimated fleet, good thinking

Actually 99% of the resources the Alliance needs comes from anywere other then earth.

They do, but they won't be of much use for anyone if the ones that requires the resources are located on Earth, like the majority of the corperations. Which most of them are, since it was pretty much the reason humanity went out into space to begin with. To find new resources and to colonize new planets to make it easier for Earth's population to sustain itself.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:16 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Fixer keeps saying decimated fleet like it's a fact that the SA just sent the whole damn fleet,no one knows the number of ships they sent,maybe they just sent a few carriers to evac with shuttles,and for all you know the SA has a protocol that says they HAVE to respond immediately to an assault on earth,the LA trailer may say they have amassed a fleet over earth but,that's a commercial and we haven't seen the game.Fixer is getting desperate...maybe we should collectively patronize him so he stops,we get it its a bad idea to send forces until we are prepared...but it has been done.

[squee365]

Fixers0 wrote...

At least it is logic, not the crap that bioware sell us.

So don't buy the game, dude. 

Modifié par squee365, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:16 .

[dreman9999]

1.Earth has the majority of humanity on it. If it goes so does a good 80% of humanity...You want to become an endangered spices...

2.http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Systems_Alliance
The Systems Alliance is the representative body of Earth and all human colonies in Citadel space. Backed by Earth's most powerful nations, the Alliance has become humanity's military, exploratory, and economic spearhead. While the Alliance is relatively new to the galactic community, it has already made a name for itself, gaining humans an embassy on the Presidium. The Alliance is governed by a parliament based at Arcturus Station; the station also serves as the Alliance's capital.

It pretty clear that the alliance get it support from earth countries not cooperation...So I don't think you understand how the alliance works.

3.The alliance was made to protect and expand humanity in space and from space.......That includes earth,too.

You concept of the Alliance being separate from earth is horribly wrong...Earth is humanity and if it's gone....A good part of humanity is gone.

[Someone With Mass]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixer keeps saying decimated fleet like it's a fact that the SA just sent the whole damn fleet,no one knows the number of ships they sent,maybe they just sent a few carriers to evac with shuttles,and for all you know the SA has a protocol that says they HAVE to respond immediately to an assault on earth,the LA trailer may say they have amassed a fleet over earth but,that's a commercial and we haven't seen the game.Fixer is getting desperate...maybe we should collectively patronize him so he stops,we get it its a bad idea to send forces until we are prepared...but it has been done.

Th first trailer suggests that they had a battle over Earth with the Reapers, got their asses kicked and retreated to regroup with other Alliance forces and the rest of the galaxy. So I don't think it was their entire fleet either.

Not to mention that no modern military strategists would be stupid enough to gather all their forces at one spot.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Fixers0 wrote...

ShepardTheMetalhead wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

The rest of us: 1+2=3
Fixers: 2+3=Chair.
It doesn't matter how much sense it makes that the alliance is helping Earth,he doesn't get that as much as he doesn't like it,it has been done,the SA IS helping and no matter how much he picks apart our posts he can't change that, logical or not,suicidal or not,it's what they are doing and that's the bottom line.

How many mainstream gamers will buy a game i which you are forced to sacrifice earth?, they  just don't understand.

The harder the fight,the more impossible the odds,the better the victory.

But all those gamer just want to shoot things and save earth, who cares if the fleet gets destroyed or any of that lore crap, just keep spamming the shoot buttion.

So we just allow the Alliance and all of its colonies to lose most, if not all of it's financial and military backing? Putting you in charge of anything begs for complete and utter failure.

Earth is just a sinkhole, the majority of the Alliance fundings comes from corporations anyway and those same corporations invest in colonies that have good resources or other advantages.  

Ah yes "Fixers" an internet troll with broken logic who must prove he is the only truth,we have dismissed those claims.

We beleive that you beleive it, but that doesn't it doesn't make it true.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:25 .

[Fixers0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

So, you think that they can survive with a decimated fleet, good thinking

Actually 99% of the resources the Alliance needs comes from anywere other then earth.

They do, but they won't be of much use for anyone if the ones that requires the resources are located on Earth, like the majority of the corperations. Which most of them are, since it was pretty much the reason humanity went out into space to begin with. To find new resources and to colonize new planets to make it easier for Earth's population to sustain itself.

What resources are located on earth, Cigar plantations Mayby? Earth is pretty much clear of natural Resources, and all those corporations are pretty much spread throughout the galaxy and they really aren't that dependant on earth.

Also, you seem to forget this:  

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Because Earth is a huge resource and money sink for the Alliance. The Alliance should be happy the Earth is getting smashed, just like a greedy nephew is happy when his old, cranky and rich uncle is meeting the Grim Reaper. Think Udina, think TIM. No point in sacrificing the fleets to save the unproductive population.

Of course, the relatives and buddies of the wealthy Alliance honchos would get evac'd, and it stands to reason that the Alliance would assist in the evacuation to that end, but the main efforts would be undertaken by Earth's nation states (with no Alliance insignia on the vehicles).

[James2912]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...
How many mainstream gamers will buy a game i which you are forced to sacrifice earth?, they  just don't understand.

All I heard when I read that was "I think I'm so much better than everyone else, because I need to feel smart when I'm playing a game, and the second a game isn't going the way I like it, it's mainstream."

Same here. 

[Sgt Stryker]

Fixers0 wrote...

Earth is just a sinkhole, the majority of the Alliance fundings comes from corporations anyway and those same corporations invest in colonies that have good resources or other advantages.  

I already subjected Zulu to the same treatment, but it seems I need to repeat myself. Here goes...

[citation needed]

[Candidate 88766]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Earth is just a sinkhole, the majority of the Alliance fundings comes from corporations anyway and those same corporations invest in colonies that have good resources or other advantages.  

I already subjected Zulu to the same treatment, but it seems I need to repeat myself. Here goes...

[citation needed]

(just to make sure it stands out)

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:33 .

[James2912]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Earth is just a sinkhole, the majority of the Alliance fundings comes from corporations anyway and those same corporations invest in colonies that have good resources or other advantages.  

I already subjected Zulu to the same treatment, but it seems I need to repeat myself. Here goes...

[citation needed]

(just to make sure it stands out)

I third this!

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Most of these corporations you keep saying are the savior of the human race are based on,ran on...you guessed it...Earth,Not Horizon,or any of your little colonies,it would be much cheaper to save what is already established and rebuild then to start over.

You are simply wrong fixer,wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong...wrong,you can continue to press that the colonies which are simply not established enough are a better hope for survival then,the place where most of our entire civilization is,but it wont make you any less wrong.

[Fixers0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...
How many mainstream gamers will buy a game i which you are forced to sacrifice earth?, they  just don't understand.

All I heard when I read that was "I think I'm so much better than everyone else, because I need to feel smart when I'm playing a game, and the second a game isn't going the way I like it, it's mainstream."

Mass Effect 2 insults my intteligence about the previous game, it's own lore and common sense on so many levels, that there really isn't anything feel about any way.

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...

What resources are located on earth, Cigar plantations Mayby? Earth is pretty much clear of natural Resources, and all those corporations are pretty much spread throughout the galaxy and they really aren't that dependant on earth.

Also, you seem to forget this:

Protip: Whenever you start referencing that ass-clown and his ludicrous ideas, I stop caring.

Also, they must've started somewhere, right? While there are some corporations that more than likely started on other colonies, that doesn't mean that all of them aren't dependent on Earth. Because if Earth is in need of resources, like material for their ships or food, technology, and the likes, and some corporation can provide a steady supply of it, there will always be someone on Earth that will gladly pay for it.

It's called export, and it happens all the time.

[Fixers0]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Most of these corporations you keep saying are the savior of the human race are based on,ran on...you guessed it...Earth,Not Horizon,or any of your little colonies,it would be much cheaper to save what is already established and rebuild then to start over.

You are simply wrong fixer,wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong...wrong,you can continue to press that the colonies which are simply not established enough are a better hope for survival then,the place where most of our entire civilization is,but it wont make you any less wrong.

And again you miss the point of my thread, that is...:

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Because Earth is a huge resource and money sink for the Alliance. The Alliance should be happy the Earth is getting smashed, just like a greedy nephew is happy when his old, cranky and rich uncle is meeting the Grim Reaper. Think Udina, think TIM. No point in sacrificing the fleets to save the unproductive population.

Of course, the relatives and buddies of the wealthy Alliance honchos would get evac'd, and it stands to reason that the Alliance would assist in the evacuation to that end, but the main efforts would be undertaken by Earth's nation states (with no Alliance insignia on the vehicles).

Modifié par Fixers0, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:37 .

[Fixers0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

What resources are located on earth, Cigar plantations Mayby? Earth is pretty much clear of natural Resources, and all those corporations are pretty much spread throughout the galaxy and they really aren't that dependant on earth.

Also, you seem to forget this:

Protip: Whenever you start referencing that ass-clown and his ludicrous ideas, I stop caring.

Also, they must've started somewhere, right? While there are some corporations that more than likely started on other colonies, that doesn't mean that all of them aren't dependent on Earth. Because if Earth is in need of resources, like material for their ships or food, technology, and the likes, and some corporation can provide a steady supply of it, there will always be someone on Earth that will gladly pay for it.

It's called export, and it happens all the time.

The alliance also started on earth, look were that went.

[celuloid]

Fixers0 wrote...

What resources are located on earth, Cigar plantations Mayby?

They are called tobacco plantations.

Also, you seem to forget this:  

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Because Earth is a huge resource and money sink for the Alliance. The Alliance should be happy the Earth is getting smashed, just like a greedy nephew is happy when his old, cranky and rich uncle is meeting the Grim Reaper. Think Udina, think TIM. No point in sacrificing the fleets to save the unproductive population.

Of course, the relatives and buddies of the wealthy Alliance honchos would get evac'd, and it stands to reason that the Alliance would assist in the evacuation to that end, but the main efforts would be undertaken by Earth's nation states (with no Alliance insignia on the vehicles).

Wow, citing Zulu as though it is Codex entry.
He would be so proud of you. You are true heir to the legacy.

Modifié par celuloid, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:40 .

[Jeth Prime]

Let the stupidity die!!!!

[CroGamer002]

Fixers0 wrote...

The alliance also started on earth, look were that went.

Humanity got seat on Council in only 40 years?

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Fixer is trying to tell us that blowing up all of our money in the long run will make us more money...riiiight.

[Sundance31us]

I'm loosely curious where all this hate for Earth came from.