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Let me guess, OP, you took a hit from the same bong Zulu uses.

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Fixers0 wrote...
i'm i repeting myself and Zulu all the time


Thats the problem. 

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Did you bother with reading the rest of the Codex? Or are you just cherry-picking the bits that sound appealing to you.

Don't answer that, because I already know.

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Nothing here.

Modifié par Fixers0, 26 juillet 2011 - 03:19 .


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Fixers0 wrote...

So were is the source that confirms that sending you're fleet into a reaper invaded planet suddenly doesn't mean decimation of it.

Think logically boy,  When the Reapers attack earth and the other homeworlds, the allien races wil of course (stupidly) rush in to defend their planets, the Alliance  just needs hold the fleet the back while they can work an Anti-Reaper weapon, Saved the C-base for TIM, you get as Bonus a more effective anti-Reaper weapon, if not well you just have to do with an improved thanix cannon.

So, the Alien fleets and Earth get decimated, you have your super weapon and you can attack the reapers, again bonus if you let the orginal Council die, and hold the fifth fleet back as Humanity  will emerge out of this battle as the  strongest race left.

Now isn't this a dream ending.


Since when is Allaince metagaming?

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[quote]Phaedon wrote...

[quote]Fixers0 wrote...
[quote]I know that 99% of what the Alliance needs doesn't come from the solar system[/quote]No, you don't know. 

You assume it. Most probably incorrectly.
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Probably? Aren't you being too generous here Phadeon?

The amount of ignorance this guy displays can only mean troll. I refuse to believe any human being is actualy capable of this broken thinking.

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[quote]Fixers0 wrote...
So were is the source that confirms that sending you're fleet into a reaper invaded planet suddenly doesn't mean decimation of it.[/quote]
...what?

But if you want a source, if the Reapers are already on the planet, they can only use GARDIAN weapons.

[quote]Think logically boy,  When the Reapers attack earth and the other homeworlds, the allien races wil of course (stupidly) rush in to defend their planets, the Alliance  just needs hold the fleet the back while they can work an Anti-Reaper weapon, Saved the C-base for TIM, you get as Bonus a more effective anti-Reaper weapon, if not well you just have to do with an improved thanix cannon.

1) If you leave 97.5% of your population to die, you won't survive past three generations.
2) Fleets are not required to create superweapons.
3) If they were, you would have to upgrade all ships to get them to have equal to Reaper firepower (cutting past billions of years of tech), and you would still be greatly outnumbered.
4) TIM and Cerberus are your antagonists in ME3.
5) Did you feel like the Human Reaper was in any position to have any superweapons on it? And if yes, how does it counter the firepower of all the Reapers together?



[quote]So, the Alien fleets and Earth get decimated, you have your super weapon and you can attack the reapers, again bonus if you let the orginal Council die, and hold the fifth fleet back as Humanity  will emerge out of this battle as the  strongest race left.

No, humanity will only have some ships which it can not retrofit or build new ones, and is outnumbered to at least a 150 million aliens : 1 human ratio.

Now isn't this a dream ending.

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No, that's actually pretty racist.

Actually, very racist. Dreaming to be the superior race? Take a hint from Zulu who repeated those things, got a rebuttal, which he ignored because he couldn't answer.

Oh, I see, you are already ignoring other posts.

Modifié par Phaedon, 26 juillet 2011 - 03:19 .


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Mesina2 wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

So were is the source that confirms that sending you're fleet into a reaper invaded planet suddenly doesn't mean decimation of it.

Think logically boy,  When the Reapers attack earth and the other homeworlds, the allien races wil of course (stupidly) rush in to defend their planets, the Alliance  just needs hold the fleet the back while they can work an Anti-Reaper weapon, Saved the C-base for TIM, you get as Bonus a more effective anti-Reaper weapon, if not well you just have to do with an improved thanix cannon.

So, the Alien fleets and Earth get decimated, you have your super weapon and you can attack the reapers, again bonus if you let the orginal Council die, and hold the fifth fleet back as Humanity  will emerge out of this battle as the  strongest race left.

Now isn't this a dream ending.


Since when is Allaince metagaming?


This is a what a good writer puts in story as a possible outcome

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Fixers0 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Since when is Allaince metagaming?


This is a what a good writer puts in story as a possible outcome


That's bad writing for characters in story to know that plot will save them.

Unless it's a satire.

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Fixers0 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

So were is the source that confirms that sending you're fleet into a reaper invaded planet suddenly doesn't mean decimation of it.

Think logically boy,  When the Reapers attack earth and the other homeworlds, the allien races wil of course (stupidly) rush in to defend their planets, the Alliance  just needs hold the fleet the back while they can work an Anti-Reaper weapon, Saved the C-base for TIM, you get as Bonus a more effective anti-Reaper weapon, if not well you just have to do with an improved thanix cannon.

So, the Alien fleets and Earth get decimated, you have your super weapon and you can attack the reapers, again bonus if you let the orginal Council die, and hold the fifth fleet back as Humanity  will emerge out of this battle as the  strongest race left.

Now isn't this a dream ending.


Since when is Allaince metagaming?


This is a what a good writer puts in story as a possible outcome

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[quote]Phaedon wrote...

[quote]Fixers0 wrote...
So were is the source that confirms that sending you're fleet into a reaper invaded planet suddenly doesn't mean decimation of it.[/quote]
...what?

But if you want a source, if the Reapers are already on the planet, they can only use GARDIAN weapons.

[quote]Think logically boy,  When the Reapers attack earth and the other homeworlds, the allien races wil of course (stupidly) rush in to defend their planets, the Alliance  just needs hold the fleet the back while they can work an Anti-Reaper weapon, Saved the C-base for TIM, you get as Bonus a more effective anti-Reaper weapon, if not well you just have to do with an improved thanix cannon.

1) If you leave 97.5% of your population to die, you won't survive past three generations.
What a genius, also it's more like 99% of the population.
2) Fleets are not required to create superweapons.
They are usefull if you want to maintain your military power.
3) If they were, you would have to upgrade all ships to get them to have equal to Reaper firepower (cutting past billions of years of tech), and you would still be greatly outnumbered.
Never said you need the whole fleet, one ship could be enough.
4) TIM and Cerberus are your antagonists in ME3.
And James Vega was confirmed to be James Sanders
5) Did you feel like the Human Reaper was in any position to have any superweapons on it? And if yes, how does it counter the firepower of all the Reapers together?
You appearantly seem to know more then i do about this weapon. (it could just be an EMP generator)

[quote]So, the Alien fleets and Earth get decimated, you have your super weapon and you can attack the reapers, again bonus if you let the orginal Council die, and hold the fifth fleet back as Humanity  will emerge out of this battle as the  strongest race left.

No, humanity will only have some ships which it can not retrofit or build new ones, and is outnumbered to at least a 150 million aliens : 1 human ratio.

Ships are build at Arcturus, and resources to build them come from mining planets, and if you let the Reapers wipe out the Alien fleet and their planets then their won't much opposition left. 

Now isn't this a dream ending.

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No, that's actually pretty racist.

Good for you.

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Sigh

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Mesina2 wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Since when is Allaince metagaming?


This is a what a good writer puts in story as a possible outcome


That's bad writing for characters in story to know that plot will save them.

Unless it's a satire.


I don't know about you, but I can't wait to read (and critique!) Zulu and Fixer's ME fanfics!

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Mesina2 wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Since when is Allaince metagaming?


This is a what a good writer puts in story as a possible outcome


That's bad writing for characters in story to know that plot will save them.

Unless it's a satire.


O, they don't have to be saved, but it is a preferable outcome.

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Fixers0 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Since when is Allaince metagaming?


This is a what a good writer puts in story as a possible outcome


That's bad writing for characters in story to know that plot will save them.

Unless it's a satire.


O, they don't have to be saved, but it is a preferable outcome.


That doesn't make any sense.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Since when is Allaince metagaming?


This is a what a good writer puts in story as a possible outcome


That's bad writing for characters in story to know that plot will save them.

Unless it's a satire.


O, they don't have to be saved, but it is a preferable outcome.


That doesn't make any sense.


It does, but then again this is a logical outcome, 

Not the rainbow sunshine victory outcome, or the evil, all is lost outcome, that people here at least seem to be able to understand.

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Fixers0 wrote...

It does, but then again this is a logical outcome, 

Not the rainbow sunshine victory outcome, or the evil, all is lost outcome, that people here at least seem to be able to understand.


And how does Alliance knows about this superweapon, unless they are metagaming?

Which would be bad writing.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

It does, but then again this is a logical outcome, 

Not the rainbow sunshine victory outcome, or the evil, all is lost outcome, that people here at least seem to be able to understand.


And how does Alliance knows about this superweapon, unless they are metagaming?

Which would be bad writing.


Cerberus is part of the Alliance,

And as we know that Sheploo likes to make renegade decision, i think it will be certain that by default C-base is intact.

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Ignoring posts and points again, you clearly show where you want the debate to head, good.

Fixers0 wrote... What a genius, also it's more like 99% of the population.

Good job, you acknowledge that your methods will end the human race and you are being smug about it.



They are usefull if you want to maintain your military power.

Fleets are not useful against Reapers OR at inventing superweapons, that's the point which you don't even bother defending at all.

And no, only ships that you can't retrofit and will eventually decay are NOT useful at maintaining your military power, you will lose it within the matter of decades.



Never said you need the whole fleet, one ship could be enough.

...one ship will somehow gain the firepower of a Reaper and kick ALL of them back home. Best logic ever.

And James Vega was confirmed to be James Sanders

A human Alliance soldier who has finished his tour of duty but will be the POV of the new players, yes. Your point being? It was confirmed back then, and James is still the same character.



You appearantly seem to know more then i do about this weapon. (it could just be an EMP generator)

The weapon that didn't exist because it wasn't used against you, and didn't even exist on the Reaper, right.


So, the Alien fleets and Earth get decimated, you have your super weapon and you can attack the reapers, again bonus if you let the orginal Council die, and hold the fifth fleet back as Humanity  will emerge out of this battle as the  strongest race left.

No, humanity will only have some ships which it can not retrofit or build new ones, and is outnumbered to at least a 150 million aliens : 1 human ratio.


Ships are build at Arcturus, and resources to build them come from mining planets, and if you let the Reapers wipe out the Alien fleet and their planets then their won't much opposition left.

Assuming that colonies and Arcturus will survive, as well as the fact that resources come from mining planets. 

Ignoring the fact that you are still outnumbered 150 million to 1, and not realizing that you need MONEY to build ships, not just resources.

Excellent.

Good for you.

No, you having racist beliefs is not beneficial to me in any way, in fact, it means that your collective empathy needs to be checked by a psychiatrist. It's like, uh, serious.

Modifié par Phaedon, 26 juillet 2011 - 03:47 .


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Fixers0 wrote...
Cerberus is part of the Alliance,

In-game source? All I hear is Kahoku saying that Harper's cell left the Alliance (which can be seen in Evolution)

And as we know that Sheploo likes to make renegade decision, i think it will be certain that by default C-base is intact.

And controlled by Cerberus which make up for, wait for it, 40% of the enemies in-game.

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Fixers0 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

It does, but then again this is a logical outcome, 

Not the rainbow sunshine victory outcome, or the evil, all is lost outcome, that people here at least seem to be able to understand.


And how does Alliance knows about this superweapon, unless they are metagaming?

Which would be bad writing.


Cerberus is part of the Alliance,

And as we know that Sheploo likes to make renegade decision, i think it will be certain that by default C-base is intact.


Default =/= Canon. In fact, there is no "canon" Shepard.

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Sgt Stryker wrote...
Default =/= Canon. In fact, there is no "canon" Shepard.

He's basically trolling on that part, we have known for months that new games will be the product of a feature similar to the PS3 comic.

Modifié par Phaedon, 26 juillet 2011 - 04:01 .


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Fixers0 has been really bored of late, given the trolling who's doing here and elsewhere.

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I'll be honest Fixer, I'm unsure if you're a really good troll or just dense at times with your seeming inability to grasp the obvious. However, I do agree that there will be a time when the Alliance will have to pull back from Earth while the Reapers are there, if for no other reason than to consolidate and rendevous with reinforcements.

But that doesn't mean that the Alliance doesn't have responsibilities to protect Earth, because at the most basic level, if I was a taxpayer paying for the Systems Alliance to protect Terra Nova, you'd be damn sure I'd want my taxpayer dollars to pay for the Systems Alliance to also protect Earth.

I have to say though; it's ****ing ironic when we provide sources from the mass effect wiki (which is cut-n-pasted from in game codex) to back up our arguments only for you to dismiss it as 'fanboy crap' only to quote something from Zulu. I like some of Zulu's idea's, but that's all they are.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

Fixers0 has been really bored of late, given the trolling who's doing here and elsewhere.

Debatable.