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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

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All of the default Sheps and Hawkes were unable to be tweaked.... that's why people hate on the blonde. They don't want it to be a fixed default they can't tweak. I'm also in that camp. Blonde FemShep, to me, does not compute. She is raven-haired and tanned. OR if I can have that strawberry blonde version... she's that. lol


I think people are looking a gift horse in the mouth. We're getting a new hi-res FemShep along with the original default redheaded FemShep and character creator to make our own FemShep. This is a bonus. I wouldn't have picked the blonde if I got to choose from all five, but I'm just happy to get anything with FemShep after 7 years of looking at Sheploo.

::changes avatar for FemShep solidarity!::


It's easily done though... make the default FemShep tweakable... and everyone is happy. Red-headed fans can have that, Black haired fans can have that... dark skinned fans can have that... people want blonde but in a different style... they can have that, etc .... 

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Leeroi wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

But in all honesty, its called a differing opinion, and what do you mean about squid heads and Lara Crofting?


I meant that in the ME world we don't get too many different body shapes for females and they're all slim and sexy, including asari (squid heads). So not much variation there. And I agree with you there aren't too many blondes, but let's face it - with the lighting renders they have in place, blonde just doesn't look very good. So my point was, in answer to your point, why would people like something that's a rarity in the ME world when it so clearly conveys a stereotypical "bimbo" as someone before me put it (and might not look so good in game as on the art piece)?

Yes, it's all opinion after all, I just expected the community's opinion to differ overall. Having in mind how people protested against the overly sexualised armors, they're now going for the look that's totally unimaginative...


I'm not too sure she conveys automatic bimbo, many think she's the most intimidating femshep choice.  Is it her hair colour that makes her a bimbo?  Would you be saying the same thing if it was a guy? Or her hair colour was red?  I doubt it.  Also not everyone falls back on stereotypes all the time.  Now if Shepard started speaking in the sexualized manner etc. every two seconds with a different voice actress, than I would worry.  I have never judged someone who's blonde to be an idiot, I just don't see the correlation execpt in movies and TV which isn't reality.

There's a difference between the part of the community that posts stuff like overly sexualised armors (very small minority), those who respond to those debates (a minority), those who just read topics/visit forums (a much larger minority) and the vast majority of people who don't care or visit these forums.  You can't  "judge" a community by the topics on these boards.  Most people who speak out have qualms with something.  When someone doesn't, they usually say nothing.

Originality has nothing to do with the choice either.  Who said it was a requirement for bioware to make an original looking Femshep?  Even Sheploo looks like 75% of the male protagonists in games.  It's about delivering a femshep that the majority of Bioware fans will be happy with.  A lot of people want an attractive femshep and not just the plain Jane version from ME1 and ME1.  That's the whole point of this excercise and the choice just happens to be Femshep 5 by polling.

As for the body shapes, it's the same reason why there were no female turians, krogan, slarians etc.  Save time, money, and memory.  That's the only reason hehe.
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It's easily done though... make the default FemShep tweakable... and everyone is happy. Red-headed fans can have that, Black haired fans can have that... dark skinned fans can have that... people want blonde but in a different style... they can have that, etc .... 


I agree that they could make it a bit tweakable, but only the hair colour.  The point of a pre-rendered head is to have more detail.  Once you start allowing tone differences that detail has to take into account tint maps, making normal maps that can support all colours of hair (which may make blonde hair look too light in order to support darker hair or vice versa).  So a really cool blonde femshep might start to look as detailed as a normal preset, which would defeat the point.  A better solution would be to update custom character creation with more DAO/DA2 like faces and parts/editing.

Modifié par Balek-Vriege, 24 juillet 2011 - 09:03 .


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#5, but with brown hair if possible.

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Just a reminder. I think the lead designer for ME3, Christina Norman, is blonde.

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Of course the Aryan is winning.

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Sylvianus wrote...

She even more badass with the red streak !!!!!

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Look her face, who want to **** with her ? :wub:


NO!

She looks like a f*cking highschool teenage emo hipster kid especially BECAUSE OF the red streak! And that whole haircut... Shepard isn't an emo hipster chick!

Please, let Final Fantasy have the emo hipsters and scene kids, but please lets keep Mass Effect classy and mature. THANK YOU!

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slimgrin wrote...

Just a reminder. I think the lead designer for ME3, Christina Norman, is blonde.


Former

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I disagree that it's not any individual feature. Some people are taking that 'bimbo' and photoshopping the hair red and saying she's no longer a 'bimbo'.  What's that about?


It actually confirms my point - remove one, just one quality form the list and what you get is not a cliche bimbo already - change eye color, hair color, lipstick color or hairstyle and you are going away form the stereotype. But 5 as she is has the "full set".

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If this was done 60 years ago people would be raging over a black femshep.

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Sshodan wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I disagree that it's not any individual feature. Some people are taking that 'bimbo' and photoshopping the hair red and saying she's no longer a 'bimbo'.  What's that about?


It actually confirms my point - remove one, just one quality form the list and what you get is not a cliche bimbo already - change eye color, hair color, lipstick color or hairstyle and you are going away form the stereotype. But 5 as she is has the "full set".

So if you make her eyes brown, she wouldn't be a bimbo? :whistle:

All of this shameful stereotyping of blondes kind of makes me want the blonde to win, just because if we have more women like FemShep who are gorgeous blondes but also happen to be smart, capable women, maybe people won't be so judgmental.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 24 juillet 2011 - 09:01 .


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TheKillerAngel wrote...

If this was done 60 years ago people would be raging over a black femshep.

They would be still raging today.

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To both sides on the blonde Femshep:

You don't have to play as that one. You can customize your own Shepard still. Let others have their own opinion, even if you disagree with it. I'm not a huge fan of the blonde one myself (but that's because I'm into darker girls), but I don't go around say she is a bimbo, because she is not.

Modifié par The Big Bad Wolf, 24 juillet 2011 - 09:03 .


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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

All of this shameful stereotyping of blondes kind of makes me want the blonde to win, just because if we have more women like FemShep who are gorgeous blondes but also happen to be smart, capable women, maybe people won't be so judgmental.

As a natural blonde myself, it makes me want to change my vote. Pfeh.

Modifié par Chaos-fusion, 24 juillet 2011 - 09:03 .


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The incredible shallowness of some people here continues to amaze me.

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I'm not 100% sure how I feel about blonde femShep. Commander Shepard is a redhead in my mind.
On the other hand I only plan on using Sheploo and the new default femShep for testing out some different classes and options in the game. So what the hell, if everyone likes her it's good enough for me.

And now she needs an equally stupid name like Sheploo. ^_^

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

The incredible shallowness of some people here continues to amaze me.


You must not view these forums enough...nothing amazes me anymore on here.

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This comes just in time...

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Sshodan wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

I disagree that it's not any individual feature. Some people are taking that 'bimbo' and photoshopping the hair red and saying she's no longer a 'bimbo'.  What's that about?


It actually confirms my point - remove one, just one quality form the list and what you get is not a cliche bimbo already - change eye color, hair color, lipstick color or hairstyle and you are going away form the stereotype. But 5 as she is has the "full set".

So if you make her eyes brown, she wouldn't be a bimbo? :whistle:

All of this shameful stereotyping of blondes kind of makes me want the blonde to win, just because if we have more women like FemShep who are gorgeous blondes but also happen to be smart, capable women, maybe people won't be so judgmental.


Yep - brown, gray, green anything but baby blue and she woun't at last be a walking cliche that she is right now. If they remove the pink lip gloss while they are at it and tie her hair back she can even look like a marine commander.

Modifié par Sshodan, 24 juillet 2011 - 09:06 .


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TheKillerAngel wrote...

The incredible shallowness of some people here continues to amaze me.


I know right? MORE POWER TO BLONDES!

And I am a Black and Brown Haired Male who loves them.

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

The incredible shallowness of some people here continues to amaze me.


Yeah, you tell 'em, Perfect.

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Pulletlamer wrote...

This comes just in time...

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LOVE. THIS. SO. MUCH.

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In comparison with Shepards 4 and 5 Ashley's hair covering one eye completely pales. Not to mention the first thing happening with them both (and likely with 6th) in CQC is enemy grabbing that hair.

Nb. 3 spent too many time with Kaidan. Finally Shepard having hair bump.

I still can't decide if nb.1 is Winona Ryder or Natalie Portman.

Too young - all of them. Too fragile looking - all of them, and if I can avoid seeing unpleasant facial features through using custom fSheps, body model is unavoidable. That's sad

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Blue eyes are cliche now? Lol.

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LPPrince wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

The incredible shallowness of some people here continues to amaze me.


I know right? MORE POWER TO BLONDES!

And I am a Black and Brown Haired Male who loves them.


Whose side are you on, man!?!

psssst..... strawberry blonde! ;)

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I like 4 she looks intense, but drop the red streak of hair.