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[kosame]

No even need to discuss on options... Blonde baby =) Nr.5

[Dragoonlordz]

Doveberry wrote...

LPPrince wrote...
By the way, while looking for a pic of a 30 year old, why not finding a pic of a teenager that you feel looks like the FemSheps in question?

Alright, here we go. As for teenagers, the Shepards remind me a lot of this girl. She's 14 in the picture. A woman in her thirties is rather hard to pinpoint, but she might look something like this. That model is 23, however.

That's as good as I'm able to do, I suppose. I hope that this demonstrates what I mean.

Not really since it's all very much eye of the beholder. Not saying you are wrong to think they look young or old but might not be what others see or guess as their ages. Fair enough they look young to you but number 5 honestly looks in her early 30's to me and I am in my 30's as are all my friends. Different people different perceptions.

[Blackveldt]

Sigh. Well, gee, I've always wanted to play Barbie Shepard. And I mean it's not like the hair in her face is unprofessional for an N7 marine and S.P.E.C.T.R.E. or anything. Maybe we can take turns braiding it!

Horrible idea to let the fans determine this. Because, according to the stats, ~18% of gamers played FemShep. So, that leads me to wonder whether the vast majority of these votes are those who DO NOT [PRIMARILY] PLAY FEMSHEP and therefore do not worry about her representing them as a strong character. I'm a female. I like to be represented by someone who isn't some guy's wet dream or porno fantasy. Is the Blonde Bimbo being voted by those who really just play MaleShep, but want to see Hawt Sex when there's a female involved? Just something nice to look at, without thinking about what best represents the Commander, personality-wise? I mean, it's not like they would have to really worry about such things if their main Shepard is male. It could be quite easy for those people to vote primarily on who's the biggest babe.

I loved Commander Shepard because she wasn't sexualized in any way whatsoever--an extreme rarity in gaming. By letting the fans judge her (and seeing as it's turned into Who's-The-Hottest-Contest), they've set Shepard on the path of Lara Croft--being judged by and being overshadowed by ('hawt') looks. And if she's a wavy, long-haired, blonde here, will she also be as such in the official trailer? At least have the Commander respect military regulation and put her damned hair up.

Personally, FemSheps 1-3 would suit me just fine. Professional, hair up for combat--someone I could take seriously, respect, and follow. And I admit, I'm used to thinking of Shepard as a fiery green-eyed redhead from the previous default FemShep. So, again...

Sigh.

This is obviously just a rant as I doubt I could affect any other kind of outcome.  I can ultimately accept it, so when ME3 comes out, I'll just make do with customizing her.

Modifié par Blackveldt, 26 juillet 2011 - 01:38 .

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

 Does anyone have the close-ups of ALL of them? Could you give us a link or post them all next to each other?

Or if it's already been done and someone knows the page number, could you please tell me?

[General User]

Doveberry wrote...

General User wrote...
These girls are cute, these girls are pretty. And that's really the heart of my problem with them. They are cute, pretty girls. Shepard is not a cute, pretty girl. She is a strong, beautiful woman (at least she is in my mind). I've always held that the difference between "pretty" and "beautiful" is the air of dignity that in so intrinsic to the latter. So, on a personal level, I would hate to see a character as important to me as FemShep have her public face (literally in this case) robbed of that dignity. 

This is what I've been trying, and failing, to say. You expressed my thoughts perfectly.

Cheers!

[1136342t54_]

Blackveldt wrote...

Sigh. Well, gee, I've always wanted to play Barbie Shepard. And I mean it's not like the hair in her face is unprofessional for an N7 marine and S.P.E.C.T.R.E. or anything. Maybe we can take turns braiding it!

Horrible idea to let the fans determine this. Because, according to the stats, ~18% of gamers played FemShep. So, that leads me to wonder whether the vast majority of these votes are those who DO NOT [PRIMARILY] PLAY FEMSHEP and therefore do not worry about her representing them as a strong character. I'm a female. I like to be represented by someone who isn't some guy's wet dream or porno fantasy. Is the Blonde Bimbo being voted by those who really just play MaleShep, but want to see Hawt Sex when there's a female involved? Just something nice to look at, without thinking about what best represents the Commander, personality-wise? I mean, it's not like they would have to really worry about such things if their main Shepard is male. It could be quite easy for those people to vote primarily on who's the biggest babe.

I loved Commander Shepard because she wasn't sexualized in any way whatsoever--an extreme rarity in gaming. By letting the fans judge her (and seeing as it's turned into Who's-The-Hottest-Contest), they've set Shepard on the path of Lara Croft--being judged by and being overshadowed by ('hawt') looks. And if she's a wavy, long-haired, blonde here, will she also be as such in the official trailer? At least have the Commander respect military regulation and put her damned hair up.

Personally, FemSheps 1-3 would suit me just fine. Professional, hair up for combat--someone I would take seriously, respect, and follow. And I admit, I'm used to thinking of Shepard as a fiery green-eyed redhead from the previous default FemShep. So, again...

Sigh.

I'm sorry but I would have to disagree. These Female Shepards aren't really sexualized. Their faces are kind of cute and have some nice hair but other than that their body is the same as any other Female Shepard. Covered in heavy armor and have no large chest or ass. I must be very very gay or secretly a girl on the inside but I'm sorry I just don't see the sexualization of Commander Shepard.

Maybe you just have a problem with her being blonde and that's totally understandable if you don't like the hair color. Just don't say its sexualized and that others want her because she's blonde. Its not that important to most people. Honestly #4 is hotter then 5 and she isn't sexualized nor have blonde hair. Most people who vote for 5 just like the hair mostly and actually want to change the color.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 26 juillet 2011 - 01:48 .

[slimgrin]

Guys, these are just concept sketches, they don't depict with any exactness what she will look like. All we know is she will be blonde, and therefore awesome.

Modifié par slimgrin, 26 juillet 2011 - 01:37 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Blackveldt wrote...

Sigh. Well, gee, I've always wanted to play Barbie Shepard. And I mean it's not like the hair in her face is unprofessional for an N7 marine and S.P.E.C.T.R.E. or anything. Maybe we can take turns braiding it!

Horrible idea to let the fans determine this. Because, according to the stats, ~18% of gamers played FemShep. So, that leads me to wonder whether the vast majority of these votes are those who DO NOT [PRIMARILY] PLAY FEMSHEP and therefore do not worry about her representing them as a strong character. I'm a female. I like to be represented by someone who isn't some guy's wet dream or porno fantasy. Is the Blonde Bimbo being voted by those who really just play MaleShep, but want to see Hawt Sex when there's a female involved? Just something nice to look at, without thinking about what best represents the Commander, personality-wise? I mean, it's not like they would have to really worry about such things if their main Shepard is male. It could be quite easy for those people to vote primarily on who's the biggest babe.

I loved Commander Shepard because she wasn't sexualized in any way whatsoever--an extreme rarity in gaming. By letting the fans judge her (and seeing as it's turned into Who's-The-Hottest-Contest), they've set Shepard on the path of Lara Croft--being judged by and being overshadowed by ('hawt') looks. And if she's a wavy, long-haired, blonde here, will she also be as such in the official trailer? At least have the Commander respect military regulation and put her damned hair up.

Personally, FemSheps 1-3 would suit me just fine. Professional, hair up for combat--someone I would take seriously, respect, and follow. And I admit, I'm used to thinking of Shepard as a fiery green-eyed redhead from the previous default FemShep. So, again...

Sigh.

This is obviously just a rant as I doubt I could affect any other kind of outcome.  I accept it, so when ME3 comes out, I'll just customize her.

You do know still can import old femshep right? or make custom ones still and even the original femshep from 1 and 2 I believe (might) still be another preset on top of winning vote shep. For the sake of trailers and picture on box alone plus one more added preset it seems your taking somewhat of a resentment about the perception of your femshep not being how other people might view theirs as and voted differently. The last sentence is what I have had to do for the past  two titles as the original didn't match my concept of femshep and I played fem in both. In my mind there is nothing at all wrong in being both strong and attractive.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 26 juillet 2011 - 01:40 .

[charmingcharlie]

Blackveldt wrote...
Is the Blonde Bimbo being voted by those who really just play MaleShep, but want to see Hawt Sex when there's a female involved? Just something nice to look at, without thinking about what best represents the Commander, personality-wise? I mean, it's not like they would have to really worry about such things if their main Shepard is male. It could be quite easy for those people to vote primarily on who's the biggest babe.

I am a guy and I primarily play as femshep (18 femsheps and 2 maleshep characters) and I chose Number 5, blonde hair and all.  I love the look and whilst it does not necessarily match my idea of Commander Shepard (none of them do because my idea of Commander Shepard is MY Commander Shepard) it could have been a hell of a lot worse.  At the end of the day I will probably only play this default femshep once but I will enjoy it and I certainly do not mind seeing this femshep on the box art and the trailer

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 26 juillet 2011 - 01:38 .

[Doveberry]

Dragoonlordz wrote...
*snip* number 5 honestly looks in her early 30's to me *snip*

I don't see much difference between the various shepards at all. Nearly all of them have almost identical facial features.
It seems to me that Bioware wanted these Shepards to appeal to the widest possible audience, thus focusing on the "pretty", and in the process allowing respect for the character to take a back seat. It makes me sad.

Modifié par Doveberry, 26 juillet 2011 - 01:40 .

[mandalore18]

#1 or #5 i like the short hair on # 1 but you can't go wrong with the blonde

[Blackveldt]

1136342t54 wrote...

Its not that important to most people. Honestly #4 is hotter then 5 and she isn't sexualized...

Thank you for assisting in my point.

[habitat 67]

charmingcharlie wrote...

I am a guy

wat???!?!?!?

[Rykn]

I couldn't choose between 3, 4, and 5..... So I gave all 3 a like xD

[Destroy Raiden_]

#5 blonde but I hate that hair she looks like she's a goth girl who came out of a medieval fantasy world but she's the better choice out of them all I think.

Girls 1 -3 all look like a child Winona Rider and awful

4 looks likes a hair dresser who woke up and decided to go dress up and play soldier. Honestly she's a walking cosplay.

and 6 is a female Spock.

but they all look like shep just got a boob job I really hope she doesn't inflate!

[Shotokanguy]

Blackveldt wrote...

Sigh. Well, gee, I've always wanted to play Barbie Shepard. And I mean it's not like the hair in her face is unprofessional for an N7 marine and S.P.E.C.T.R.E. or anything. Maybe we can take turns braiding it!

Horrible idea to let the fans determine this. Because, according to the stats, ~18% of gamers played FemShep. So, that leads me to wonder whether the vast majority of these votes are those who DO NOT [PRIMARILY] PLAY FEMSHEP and therefore do not worry about her representing them as a strong character. I'm a female. I like to be represented by someone who isn't some guy's wet dream or porno fantasy. Is the Blonde Bimbo being voted by those who really just play MaleShep, but want to see Hawt Sex when there's a female involved? Just something nice to look at, without thinking about what best represents the Commander, personality-wise? I mean, it's not like they would have to really worry about such things if their main Shepard is male. It could be quite easy for those people to vote primarily on who's the biggest babe.

I loved Commander Shepard because she wasn't sexualized in any way whatsoever--an extreme rarity in gaming. By letting the fans judge her (and seeing as it's turned into Who's-The-Hottest-Contest), they've set Shepard on the path of Lara Croft--being judged by and being overshadowed by ('hawt') looks. And if she's a wavy, long-haired, blonde here, will she also be as such in the official trailer? At least have the Commander respect military regulation and put her damned hair up.

Personally, FemSheps 1-3 would suit me just fine. Professional, hair up for combat--someone I could take seriously, respect, and follow. And I admit, I'm used to thinking of Shepard as a fiery green-eyed redhead from the previous default FemShep. So, again...

Sigh.

This is obviously just a rant as I doubt I could affect any other kind of outcome.  I can ultimately accept it, so when ME3 comes out, I'll just make do with customizing her.

It's funny how so many of you think you're being special because of your stand against a certain physical appearance, when in actuality, you whiners just look more superficial than anyone else.

[1136342t54_]

I see your point but don't necessarily agree with it. You are correct Sheploo is shown to be one of those very fit marines who are badass and that appeals too many gamers. It actually represents the Main character in general or at least the Soldier class. I'll even  agree that these Shepards look young but they mostly look like 20 year olds not teens at all. Their ability to be able to wear heavy armor and use weapons that would break someones arms make me not think of pretty little girl at all.

Shepard to you is strong and beutiful that's fine because that is your shepard and you made her to be like that. Its unlikely you would find Bioware's version of Shepard as beutiful as you would like. Sure she can be a bit older and still look good but whatever version of Shepard you want may not appeal to everyone. In fact its likely be in the minority. The Shepard's Bioware presented are going to be strong and badass no matter how they look but Beauty is far more subjective.

[Metal-Three]

I'm sure that it's already been said at some point, but when I first looked at #1, I seriously thought that someone had photoshopped Natalie Portman's head onto Shepard's body.

[leggywillow]

Blackveldt wrote...
Is the Blonde Bimbo being voted by those who really just play MaleShep, but want to see Hawt Sex when there's a female involved? Just something nice to look at, without thinking about what best represents the Commander, personality-wise? I mean, it's not like they would have to really worry about such things if their main Shepard is male. It could be quite easy for those people to vote primarily on who's the biggest babe.

Personal anecdotes are meaningless as evidence, but I'm a female player who plays primarly FemShep (9 FemSheps, 2 ManSheps) and I voted for the so-called "Blonde Bimbo".  Honestly, I don't see what is so bimbo-ish about her besides the fact that she has long, blonde hair.  Her hair is just a retouched version of the longer hairstyle already in the game.  Besides the crazy eyeliner that all the options are wearing, she doesn't even look particularly "done up".  Apparently just having blonde hair is enough to merit an dismissal these days?

I voted for her because I thought that she actually looked toughest.  Besides coloring (skin tone, eyes, hair), most of the faces seem very similar.  They all have very dainty, pretty facial features and are being compared to celebrities like Rihanna and Winona Ryder.  To my admittedly untrained eye, #5 has a slightly broader, stronger jawline and generally looks tougher than the other options, despite her coloring.  ETA:  #6 seems to have slightly less dainty features as well.

Modifié par leggywillow, 26 juillet 2011 - 01:56 .

[1136342t54_]

Blackveldt wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Its not that important to most people. Honestly #4 is hotter then 5 and she isn't sexualized...

Thank you for assisting in my point.

What point? That you basically didn't like #5 because she was blonde and you attribute that hair to being a Bimbo over sexualization?

[Blackveldt]

charmingcharlie wrote...

I am a guy and I primarily play as femshep (18 femsheps and 2 maleshep characters) and I chose Number 5, blonde hair and all.  I love the look and whilst it does not necessarily match my idea of Commander Shepard (none of them do because my idea of Commander Shepard is MY Commander Shepard) it could have been a hell of a lot worse.  At the end of the day I will probably only play this default femshep once but I will enjoy it and I certainly do not mind seeing this femshep on the box art and the trailer

That is very interesting, but I was theorizing about the majority and not an outlier (which, unfortunately, you are).  I don't mind Shepard being blonde so much as I mind why the majority picked this particular model.  Wavy, long hair.  Stereotypical blonde.  It isn't difficult to deduce, especially with such comments (most recent ones I believe) as:

"Number 5. Hot'n'sexy ;]" or "5 is such a beauty. :)"

If there was a poll for a male character, considering the aforementioned and demographic, such attributes as how tough he appears or "badass" would take precedence over how "hot" or "sexy" he is.  We all want to look at something nice, handsome or otherwise, but priorities are significant.  They can, for example, turn a respectable character into one that is overtly sexual or vise versa.  A shirtless man's primary characteristic can very well be his determination because that is how the gamers perceive and discuss him.

I fully expected people to vote based on appearance--of course--I'm just disappointed on just how much precedence Shepard's appearance has taken; her 'hotness' factor has overwhelmed her personality as a battle-hardened marine.  It is almost as if the majority of people did not think to consider--at all--what fits her personality, their thoughts solely, 'Oh, she's hot.  But ohhhh, she's hotter.'  And as a military brat, it really is difficult for me to imagine any soldier with her hair down and waving about.  MaleShep has a regulation military cut; I supposed FemShep would as well.

It is as I stated previously, however.  I understand why and how it happened and fully admit that I am just now 'getting my thoughts off my chest,' so to speak, as I accept it and move on.  I intended to simply import my previous customized character in any case and still plan on doing so.  I just worry about Shepard's representation just as I'm sure there are those that worry about MaleShepard's in the potential upcoming Hollywood movie of Mass Effect.  It may not be canon, but we still don't want him to be portrayed badly or incorrectly.

1136342t54 wrote...

Blackveldt wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Its not that important to most people. Honestly #4 is hotter then 5 and she isn't sexualized...

Thank you for assisting in my point.

What
point? That you basically didn't like #5 because she was blonde and you
attribute that hair to being a Bimbo over sexualization?

Wow.  I did not think I would have to walk you through this step-by-step.  First, you state it is not important to most people, but your following statement (and everyone else's for that matter) proves otherwise.  You then claim she isn't sexualized, yet contradict yourself by first inserting that Shepard A is "hotter" than Shepard B (focusing solely on her appearance and 'hotness' factor).  If I didn't know any better, I'd have thought you were doing it on purpose as a troll.

Modifié par Blackveldt, 26 juillet 2011 - 02:08 .

[BlaznZero]

They are all uggs.

As a Male Shep player, this is DELICIOUS!

Modifié par BlaznZero, 26 juillet 2011 - 02:14 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

slimgrin wrote...

Guys, these are just concept sketches, they don't depict with any exactness what she will look like. All we know is she will be blonde, and therefore awesome.

The older I get, the more often I agree with you.  Must be getting senile.  :D:D

[Blackveldt]

leggywillow wrote...


Personal anecdotes are meaningless as evidence...

An anecdote is an example or story based on the speaker's (or even referencing another individual) life, i.e., Incident A happened to me three years ago.

Using an anecdote as evidence would be as follows:
Incident A happened to me three years ago, therefore Reason B is false.

I did neither as I was providing a hypothetical situation, hence all of the question marks.  If you do want more details upon my thoughts, please refer to my previous post.

Modifié par Blackveldt, 26 juillet 2011 - 02:20 .

[1136342t54_]

Blackveldt wrote...

That is very interesting, but I was theorizing about the majority and not an outlier (which, unfortunately, you are).  I don't mind Shepard being blonde so much as I mind why the majority picked this particular model.  Wavy, long hair.  Stereotypical blonde.  It isn't difficult to deduce, especially with such comments (most recent ones I believe) as:

"Number 5. Hot'n'sexy ;]" or "5 is such a beauty. :)"

That's just inaccurate. Most people who likes 5 like her for her hair not because she is blonde. In fact they want her hair color to change to red or brunette which isn't a bad thing.

If there was a poll for a male character, considering the aforementioned and demographic, such attributes as how tough he appears or "badass" would take precedence over how "hot" or "sexy" he is.  We all want to look at something nice, handsome or otherwise, but priorities are significant.  They can, for example, turn a respectable character into one that is overtly sexual or vise versa.  A shirtless man's primary characteristic can very well be his determination because that is how the gamers perceive and discuss him.

That's because most gamers are male. I wouldn't expect most male gamers to judge a male character over how hot or sexy he is at all. 

I fully expected people to vote based on appearance--of course--I'm just disappointed on just how much precedence Shepard's appearance has taken; her 'hotness' factor has overwhelmed her personality as a battle-hardened marine.  It is almost as if the majority of people did not think to consider--at all--what fits her personality, their thoughts solely, 'Oh, she's hot.  But ohhhh, she's hotter.'  And as a military brat, it really is difficult for me to imagine any soldier with her hair down and waving about.  MaleShep has a regulation military cut; I supposed FemShep would as well.

Actually it seems your opinions are based on appearance. It seems that dislike 5 mostly because she is blonde and seems like a bimbo because of her hair color and in your mind looks more attractive then the others. Her hair isn't all that wavy and its short compared to hair I usually see. Male Sheps can have a beard and different hair styles. It really depends on player choice. If someone would like Shepard to have long hair based on what they think their shepard would act like then so be it. Shepard's personality isn't entirely canon that is player choice.

It is as I stated previously, however.  I understand why and how it happened and fully admit that I am just now 'getting my thoughts off my chest,' so to speak, as I accept it and move on.  I intended to simply import my previous customized character in any case and still plan on doing so.  I just worry about Shepard's representation just as I'm sure there are those that worry about MaleShepard's in the potential upcoming Hollywood movie of Mass Effect.  It may not be canon, but we still don't want him to be portrayed badly or incorrectly.

Now thats good you should just import your own shepard which is better than worrying about what Shepard Bioware intends to put on the box art. Remember Bioware's Shepard isn't necessarily whats important. Their is no canon shepard but the players.

Wow.  I did not think I would have to walk you through this step-by-step.  First, you state it is not important to most people, but your following statement (and everyone else's for that matter) proves otherwise.  You then claim she isn't sexualized, yet contradict yourself by first inserting that Shepard A is "hotter" than Shepard B (focusing solely on her appearance and 'hotness' factor).  If I didn't know any better, I'd have thought you were doing it on purpose as a troll.

So saying that one shepard is better looking than another means that shepard is sexualized? So anyone in life who is attractive is sexualized? Okay that's your opinion but it doesn't make sense as proving your point. Your point was that being hot attributed to a persons choice on picking their shepard. Many seem to think even me that 4 is better looking then 5 but guess who's winning?