It's been confirmed. He says himself in his manifesto that he actually played Dragon Age 2. He beat Origins too, and said it was brilliant. He likely beat Awakenings as well. Looks like this Jim Brogan guy wasn't too far off when he said there was eerie similaraties. New article is up too with his quotes and such. Startin' to get a bit creepy how many coincedences have lined up like this.
http://bit.ly/pu7ZFA
Norway killer Anders Behring Breivik did actually play Dragon Age 2
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 05:45
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He played OTHER games too so stop being a troll.
I played Left for Dead One and Two and many other games.......... and I am not a killer.
He is a mentally ill man. Its that simple
I played Left for Dead One and Two and many other games.......... and I am not a killer.
He is a mentally ill man. Its that simple
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 05:46
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It's still seriously not funny. Yeah he played other games, but for those of us who really loved DA2 it's kind of upsetting if only on principle. It might be an irrational feeling, but there it is.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 05:47
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I've been chopping people's heads off in Mortal Kombat since I was 6...I've never killed anyone irl. So what?
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 05:48
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He's a mentally ill man...its that simple. Lets not start blaming videogames.
Lets not become pro censorship
Lets not become pro censorship
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 05:50
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cmessaz wrote...
I've been chopping people's heads off in Mortal Kombat since I was 6...I've never killed anyone irl. So what?
Exactly.
People will be stupid an want bans on games the way they wanted to ban hard rock music years ago
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 05:52
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Makes it feel that much better when I kill him at the end.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 05:55
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The article really doesn't say videogames are evil or make you do things. But considering he is a mentally ill man, I'm starting to think its possible that he could've in fact drawn inspiration considering he played it during his planning. I was looking through his manifesto and he really only mentions the Dragon Age games, WoW, and Call of Duty. And he focuses mostly on Dragon Age. I love the game too, but this is some weird stuff. I don't think this was ever meant to be a joke.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 05:55
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Lets clear something up........
Norway is a socialist country...The terrorist has fundamentalist Christian ties.
Norway is a socialist country...The terrorist has fundamentalist Christian ties.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 05:58
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Alkaiser726 wrote...
The article really doesn't say videogames are evil or make you do things. But considering he is a mentally ill man, I'm starting to think its possible that he could've in fact drawn inspiration considering he played it during his planning. I was looking through his manifesto and he really only mentions the Dragon Age games, WoW, and Call of Duty. And he focuses mostly on Dragon Age. I love the game too, but this is some weird stuff. I don't think this was ever meant to be a joke.
But as you said...HE IS A MENTALLY ILL MAN. Anders is a very common name in that part of the world so its a coincidence.
The majority of people will blame videogames when the man was mentally ill. There could be calls for bans or boycotts.
Censorship is NOT the issue.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 06:00
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Melca36 wrote...
He's a mentally ill man...its that simple. Lets not start blaming videogames.
Lets not become pro censorship
OP wasn't suggesting censorship. But you're probably just making a generalized statement?
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 06:01
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mynameisdanza wrote...
Makes it feel that much better when I kill him at the end.
That's not funny either. I killed him on my first PT also, but you're making the two equivalent, which they absolutely are not. Don't spread ignorance.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 06:07
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That is a known Right Wing Conservative newspaper trying to detract from the fact that this terrorist was a Right WING Fundamentalist Christian much like the people that dominate Congress now
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 06:11
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Ugh...people trying to attach a political spin on a crazy person's actions sickens me. It should sicken all people who try to use this to promote a political agenda instead of using honest, open debate over singular issues.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 06:15
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"That is a known Right Wing Conservative newspaper trying to detract from the fact that this terrorist was a Right WING Fundamentalist Christian much like the people that dominate Congress now "
known right wing? you've got to be kidding me...I don't see any evidence to that.
I read the article. Where was the OP trying to say video games to blame? he was stating taht he made the bombs while he played the exact game, looks like him, possibly tailored himself to look like him. i heard that he took a year off of work just to play WoW. mentions he loves RPGs the most (role playing games)...why is it such a stretch that he wouldn't be role playing in real life. psychos do that, not videogames.
known right wing? you've got to be kidding me...I don't see any evidence to that.
I read the article. Where was the OP trying to say video games to blame? he was stating taht he made the bombs while he played the exact game, looks like him, possibly tailored himself to look like him. i heard that he took a year off of work just to play WoW. mentions he loves RPGs the most (role playing games)...why is it such a stretch that he wouldn't be role playing in real life. psychos do that, not videogames.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 06:17
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This entire thread is hilariously impertinent. Video games have been blamed for this sort of lunacy plenty of times. It's BS and always will be.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 06:37
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Goodness. I get tired of the finger pointing. Some gamers blame his Christianity, Some Christians blame his gaming. It's absurd!
I don't think it was either. I think he was messed up in the head. I think he was thoroughly depraved, morally broken. To compare him to a freedom fighter in a video game or every person's grandma who has ever gone to church is absurd for any of us. Breivik was a sick man, THAT is why he did it.
Me? Strong gamer, even Stronger Christian. (gasp!) Even traditional/fundamentalist by most standards. Hey, I even think the modern church is pretty messed up, I hear Breivik thought that! Oh, and I loved Anders in DA2. Might as well just lock me up and give me a labotomy, now. I'm obviously dangerous!
Oh, wait. Except I am not going to MURDER anybody...
We're always looking for an excuse for people's crimes -- anything but to accept that maybe the man was, you know, messed up? Either way, that article really irked me off. The crime in Norway was a serious thing and needs to be taken more seriously than this. DA2 isn't going to motivate anyone to KILL people, madness will.
I don't think it was either. I think he was messed up in the head. I think he was thoroughly depraved, morally broken. To compare him to a freedom fighter in a video game or every person's grandma who has ever gone to church is absurd for any of us. Breivik was a sick man, THAT is why he did it.
Me? Strong gamer, even Stronger Christian. (gasp!) Even traditional/fundamentalist by most standards. Hey, I even think the modern church is pretty messed up, I hear Breivik thought that! Oh, and I loved Anders in DA2. Might as well just lock me up and give me a labotomy, now. I'm obviously dangerous!
Oh, wait. Except I am not going to MURDER anybody...
We're always looking for an excuse for people's crimes -- anything but to accept that maybe the man was, you know, messed up? Either way, that article really irked me off. The crime in Norway was a serious thing and needs to be taken more seriously than this. DA2 isn't going to motivate anyone to KILL people, madness will.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 06:43
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I don't think any sane person is blaming either video games or his Christianity. It's his political extremism.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 06:48
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 06:55
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Alkaiser726 wrote...
It's been confirmed. He says himself in his manifesto that he actually played Dragon Age 2. He beat Origins too, and said it was brilliant. He likely beat Awakenings as well. Looks like this Jim Brogan guy wasn't too far off when he said there was eerie similaraties. New article is up too with his quotes and such. Startin' to get a bit creepy how many coincedences have lined up like this.
http://bit.ly/pu7ZFA
Hey ******, Hitler probably played with plastic swords, but it didnt cause him to be a grade A power made ****.
God I hate idiots like you, get off the internet you incompetent excuse for a human being. You do not understand causation whatsoever do you? My name is Mario IRL, I also play Super Mario games, I also eat mushrooms. I dont eat mushrooms because I played Super Mario.
Just like how 99.9% of people in the US who commit murder own a pair of shoes, dosen't mean shoes are the cause of the murder. I actualy wrote a 20k word essay on video game violence but i do not wish to share such nuanced arguments with a peasent like yourself, who lacks the decorum and intellect of a wild bullock.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 07:00
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He was beat Dragon Age 2 WHILE he was building the bombs! How dumb can you be Alex!
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 07:02
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I think we'd better ban all plastic swords, just to be on the safe side.
...And Norwegians.
...And Norwegians.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 07:03
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I'm pretty sure the attacker also used a toilet. Coincidence or are all the people who use toilets potential serial killers? I see absolutely no point in this thread.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 07:07
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I don't believe that playing Dragon Age II inspired him to do this. This was something he'd obviously been planning for a long time. BioWare is completely blameless and everything surrounding Anders is pure coincidence.
Now, do I think that a certain part of the game let him forfill a sick fantasy of his? Yes. I absolutely believe that.
And that pisses me off to no end.
Now, do I think that a certain part of the game let him forfill a sick fantasy of his? Yes. I absolutely believe that.
And that pisses me off to no end.
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Posté 24 juillet 2011 - 07:09
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I've played the God of War series, the Mortal Kombat series, the Call of Duty series, the Dragon Age series, Ghost in the Shell, The Godfather video game, and many other games that involve killing people.
I haven't killed anyone.
A mentally ill man is at fault, not the games themselves. But I just know that won't stop the idiots in this world from blaming the game and calling for it to be taken off the shelf.
The name "Anders" is just the Scandinavian version of the name Andrew in English, or Andreas in Greek.
I don't even see a resemblance between the two.
EDIT: anyone else notice how the article says the group controlling the mages is called "The Chant of Light", and controls the Chantry and the Templars? I understand what they meant though, but I found it funny
I haven't killed anyone.
A mentally ill man is at fault, not the games themselves. But I just know that won't stop the idiots in this world from blaming the game and calling for it to be taken off the shelf.
The name "Anders" is just the Scandinavian version of the name Andrew in English, or Andreas in Greek.
I don't even see a resemblance between the two.
EDIT: anyone else notice how the article says the group controlling the mages is called "The Chant of Light", and controls the Chantry and the Templars? I understand what they meant though, but I found it funny
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