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Please Bioware do not force us to see, Default Shepard blonde


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Sylvianus wrote...

GreedIgnored wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...


That's why I quoted. It is those who reproached myself for having an opinion that I said that.

I have nothing to apologize at all.


You did reapproach at responding to him. Now you choose to ignore her, swell for you! You are half-way there! You apologized to him yet see you have nothing to apologize her. Halfway there.

Shut up and move on.

You can try to order me to shut up, though I will not listen to you since there is no reason. You are not the only one who can type here. Thank you.

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Sylvianus wrote...

snip 2 dozen whining posts


So reading through this thread, it appears that you are whining about your right to whine about something? That is what you keep shoving in peoples faces.

If you are so concerned about BioWare possibly making the new default female Shepard a blonde, send a letter or email to Casey, or, god forbid, go vote on a non-blonde version. Posting a whiny thread and then whining about your right to whine about it won't accomplish what I think you are trying. This thread is fail.

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Sunnie22 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

snip 2 dozen whining posts


So reading through this thread, it appears that you are whining about your right to whine about something? That is what you keep shoving in peoples faces.

If you are so concerned about BioWare possibly making the new default female Shepard a blonde, send a letter or email to Casey, or, god forbid, go vote on a non-blonde version. Posting a whiny thread and then whining about your right to whine about it won't accomplish what I think you are trying. This thread is fail.



Thats democracy at work citizen! Isn't it just grand? *insert 1950's era smile with a thumbs up*

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 24 juillet 2011 - 03:39 .


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Sunnie22 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

snip 2 dozen whining posts


So reading through this thread, it appears that you are whining about your right to whine about something? That is what you keep shoving in peoples faces.

If you are so concerned about BioWare possibly making the new default female Shepard a blonde, send a letter or email to Casey, or, god forbid, go vote on a non-blonde version. Posting a whiny thread and then whining about your right to whine about it won't accomplish what I think you are trying. This thread is fail.

I do not care that it has failed or not. I made a proposal to add options if possible.
If this is not done, this is not done. I will not cry. I do not care how many times you will write the word whine, etc, to appear smart, it will not make you look smart  and will not change the fact that I do not care of your opinion.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 24 juillet 2011 - 03:42 .


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...You know it just occured to me that they may just be looking for the basic design of a Shepard and play with the coloring of skin, eyes and hair later. ._.

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I approve of that sig, Sunnie22.

I'm going to get my blond hair buzzed off in honor of blondieshep. Burn it in a shrine or something. :)

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Sylvianus wrote...

GreedIgnored wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...


That's why I quoted. It is those who reproached myself for having an opinion that I said that.

I have nothing to apologize at all.


You did reapproach at responding to him. Now you choose to ignore her, swell for you! You are half-way there! You apologized to him yet see you have nothing to apologize her. Halfway there.

Shut up and move on.


It's always nice to see a mature post like this, isn't it?

You resort to this kind of response because you know you are in the wrong and have no valid argument. Re-read your original post to me and you will see where you assumed I was attacking your personal preferences, when I was not doing so at all, and went on to call my views 'stupid' and 'hypocritical'

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Sylvianus wrote...

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No, actually I'm not a native. English is sometimes difficult. I didn't understand. And I still do not understand.
I apologize awesome Name if I've misunderstood. ;)


I don't need an apology; you're best to apologise to her.  I can see that your English is rough - so I can understand that it's difficult - but it does mean you should probably be VERY CAREFUL to understand what you're reading before replying rather than being too quick to deride someone. 

So no, actually I have understood.

You think I blamed the person I quoted right ?
NO . She wasn't the person I was aiming. Only theses sentences was for her.

That you had your reasons not to like Jane Shepard. It though she was good.

As I have my reasons not to like this version so much.


The rest was something general that did not concern her. I said that it wasn't for her I said that but some others. Like me, she had an opinion. And that's why I quoted her. read the sentences above.

That's why I quoted. It is those who reproached myself for having an opinion that I said that.

I have nothing to apologize at all.



That you had your reasons not to like Jane Shepard. It though she was good.

As I have my reasons not to like this version so much.


And thinking you do not aim, but I find hypocritical and stupid to
accuse me of not liking one version for some personnal reasons, when you
asked to change the other Jane.

Obviously everyone's expectations, not necessarily the same. So do not come to lecture on it. because it is frankly ridiculous.


Okay... quick lesson in English for you.  When you start a new paragraph with "AND", you are linking from the previous paragraph.  Furthermore, if at some point in your post you want to redirect your focus on entirely different people, you need to make that explicitly clear; the way you've structured this post means that all these paragraphs are still directed at DS.

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DuckSoup wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

GreedIgnored wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...


That's why I quoted. It is those who reproached myself for having an opinion that I said that.

I have nothing to apologize at all.


You did reapproach at responding to him. Now you choose to ignore her, swell for you! You are half-way there! You apologized to him yet see you have nothing to apologize her. Halfway there.

Shut up and move on.


It's always nice to see a mature post like this, isn't it?

You resort to this kind of response because you know you are in the wrong and have no valid argument. Re-read your original post to me and you will see where you assumed I was attacking your personal preferences, when I was not doing so at all, and went on to call my views 'stupid' and 'hypocritical'


[b]And thinking you do not aim, but I find hypocritical and stupid to
accuse me of not liking one version for some personnal reasons, when you
asked to change the other Jane.

I think I am attacked for the poor expression. Honestly, the rest does not concern you. when I said  and  "thinking you do not aim ",

I meaned  that what followed wasn't for you.

There is a misunderstanding. I tell you sincerely, it was not for you. Now free for you to believe me or not, there is nothing more to say about it. I will not convince you with dozens of post about it.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 24 juillet 2011 - 03:49 .


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I am ready to accept any female Shepard. And even keep the old Default Jane Shepard. But I do not want the old cliché rotten to ruin my  female hero.

This isn't just any random character in this game, it's Shepard. One with whom I play for M1.

I have nothing against blondes, but then, when I look at the picture, I can not. Too much.

I propose an alternative. A color hair toggle for those who don't want ! 

Jamie made a nice pic and I would put it.

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It is times like these that I wouldn't want to be working at Bioware on ME3 for all the money in the world.  They could've easily just picked their chosen version of FemShep, put her on the trailer and the CE box, and would've suffered the wrath of FemShep fans everywhere for not only choosing the one they did, but also not giving the fans the option to vote for the one they want the most.  So, they give the fans the chance to vote for one of five possible options, and what happens?  More raging over the fact that the blond option is getting the majority vote (or that there was even a blond option in the first place) and an astounding amount of pointless bickering.  It's "damned if you do, damned if you don't" to the laughably extreme.

What boggles my mind the most is the fact that people are shaking their fists in frustration and arguing bitterly over a character that the vast majority of players CUSTOMIZE TO MAKE THEIR OWN.  I'm sure there are quite a few who use the default male and female versions of Shepard because they either like the character designs or just don't care to fool around with customization.  But I'm more convinced that people prefer to customize their Shepard to be the hero they envision him or her to be.  So, with that in mind, why in the name of all that is holy do you care what image Bioware picks from the majority vote for the female version of Shepard?!?  It's not YOUR Shepard, after all!  Use a little cognitive dissonance and dismiss the image as someone else's version of Shepard, and move on!  

Good frakking lord...even the subject line of this thread... "do not force us to see"...ugh, IT'S BEING PUT TO A VOTE!!!  No one's forcing anyone!  You're being given a choice!  If the majority vote is blond, you get blond.  Don't like it?  Don't show it support by voting for it, but don't dare have the arrogance to deride someone for their choice when you know damn well you'd demand a chance to choose for yourself if you didn't have it by default.

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There's already a thread for this, why isn't this in there?

This doesn't need to be its own topic. Seriously.

I mean, there's already people pushing for this in the other thread. I'm sure the devs will see it.

Modifié par LPPrince, 24 juillet 2011 - 03:55 .


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Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

I am ready to accept any female Shepard. And even keep the old Default Jane Shepard. But I do not want the old cliché rotten to ruin my  female hero.

This isn't just any random character in this game, it's Shepard. One with whom I play for M1.

I have nothing against blondes, but then, when I look at the picture, I can not. Too much.

I propose an alternative. A color hair toggle for those who don't want ! 

Jamie made a nice pic and I would put it.

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Try to understand why this thread is stupid. I like my thread. It allows me to see how people can think themself smart, clever and are so pleased with themselves.

It amuses me to see all these reactions, overreacting, it teaches us many things.

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Ok well I don't like your Shepard don't force me too see that one.

See what I did there? Hate to think of how many threads will pop up when we do see the final Femshep, ffs make your own.

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Sylvianus wrote...

Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

I am ready to accept any female Shepard. And even keep the old Default Jane Shepard. But I do not want the old cliché rotten to ruin my  female hero.

This isn't just any random character in this game, it's Shepard. One with whom I play for M1.

I have nothing against blondes, but then, when I look at the picture, I can not. Too much.

I propose an alternative. A color hair toggle for those who don't want ! 

Jamie made a nice pic and I would put it.

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Try to understand why this thread is stupid. I like my thread. It allows me to see how people can think themself smart, clever and are so pleased with themselves.

It amuses me to see all these reactions, overreacting, it teaches us many things.


with what ive seen naaahhhttttt really at all.only thing it teachs is that when others come to discuss some of the OP'ers that agree with the OP became ignorant with words and push mumbo jumbo on everyone

or let this guy say it for me.....

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Sylvianus wrote...

I do not care of your opinion.


Oh I guess you really told me! Should I put on a pouty face?

It's pretty obvious that you don't care about anyone elses opinion unless it's the same as your own.
A suggestion for you, stop dismissing or attacking people who don't agree with you, and change your OP to something that isn't an attack on a possible feature that is really so insignificant. You won't win anything good here
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United_Strafes wrote...

Ok well I don't like your Shepard don't force me too see that one.

See what I did there? Hate to think of how many threads will pop up when we do see the final Femshep, ffs make your own.

So ?

I do not see the relevance of what you say from the time when I say that if bioware doesn't allow you to add options, I resign myself.I certainly do not regret  having asked. The point is simply proposing to add options to stick ast least  to what would you want for the default face If possible ( the one chosen ), it would be cool, otherwise I will not cry.

default Femhawk was beautiful and many people wanted to custom her, and change a few things.

I saw a lot of people want to change the fill color of Shepard. Have that would be cool.

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Sunnie22 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

I do not care of your opinion.


Oh I guess you really told me! Should I put on a pouty face?

It's pretty obvious that you don't care about anyone elses opinion unless it's the same as your own.
A suggestion for you, stop dismissing or attacking people who don't agree with you, and change your OP to something that isn't an attack on a possible feature that is really so insignificant. You won't win anything good here
.

No. I despise only those who believe themselves important ( yeah we are on the bsn ) , who believe themselves clever by saying WHIN WHINE! at their first words because it seems so coooool to say that ,

hey look a trolololol! ' You are a Whinner, etc, what the **** is this thread? That's opinions I Can not respect, indeed.

And i seek nothing,  now I made the proposal, I think we're done.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 24 juillet 2011 - 04:12 .


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From twitter:

@CaseyDHudson Oh I should have asked this during the convention but will the original default femshep be an exclusive to importers from ME2?
Casey Hudson
@jackelbeaver Your ME2 character will import as-is, and new chars can choose a new look including the old default as an option.



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If only there was a way for us to vote on which Shepard design we want to be in the trailer... oh wait, there is!

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I personally like them all, and no one forcing you to play the default character. You have the option of making your own. I truly don't see the big deal of this.


Pretty much this, although there are definitely some I would prefer to see as an option than others. That's mainly because of how much of a 'thing' FemShep appearing in marketing material has become though.

The funny thing for me is that I don't think #4 (the 'blonde' choice) is the best look for Shepard either, but I take issue with the amount of comments suggesting blonde = stupid, barbie doll porn star. Really? Olivia Dunham (Anna Torv in Fringe) is a blonde and she is hardly any of those things? There are plenty of examples of women of any hair colour who have shown the qualities we would like to see Shep have. The reason I prefer options 1-3 have more to do with the shorter, more military, style cut suiting my mental image of a default Shep than anything else; despite my long standing desire to see more hairstyle options for our custom Shepards.

I don't know, it all seems a bit excessive to me is all. It's just hair colour, Shepard will be the way they portray her in the game and trailer regardless - badass and brilliant.

For reference, Anna Torv:
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We have hair dye in real life because people are never satisfied....it is the same in games, we also have the availability to change hair color, what's all the fuss about....choose the color you want and play....and stop attacking other people's opinion, they have a right to theirs as you have to yours....play nice...

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Sylvianus wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

I do not care of your opinion.


Oh I guess you really told me! Should I put on a pouty face?

It's pretty obvious that you don't care about anyone elses opinion unless it's the same as your own.
A suggestion for you, stop dismissing or attacking people who don't agree with you, and change your OP to something that isn't an attack on a possible feature that is really so insignificant. You won't win anything good here
.

No. I despise only those who believe themselves important ( yeah we are on the bsn ) , who believe themselves clever by saying WHIN WHINE! at their first words because it seems so coooool to say that ,

hey look a trolololol! ' You are a Whinner, etc, what the **** is this thread? That's opinions I Can not respect, indeed.

And i seek nothing,  now I made the proposal, I think we're done.


There is very simple way to change the hair color for default face, I can´t understand what you´re whining about.

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I liked the blond just because of this thread. Thanks for pointing out the vote thing, I totally ignored it when it popped up on facebook.