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Is Dragon Age 2 as bad as fans say it is?


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#101
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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

SicoWolf- wrote...
I find the combat to be the most enjoyable part of the game, and because of that, I feel it has more replay value than Origins.

Unless you don't give a fig about combat and then, well...

Even combat was not more fun for me, because of the derpiness in AoE casting and lack of isometric camera.  It was maddening most of the time.


Addai...if you want just a story I suggest you go read books. Gaming has always been ( at least half it anyway ) about GAMEPLAY.

Gee, thanks for the advice.  Posted Image  An RPG is not only about gameplay.  Here I suggest the helpful tag "IMO."

Modifié par Addai67, 25 juillet 2011 - 04:01 .


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The game is boring, a permanent paste and copy, and not only a map's paste and copy.

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I have to be honest. Some things I like and some I don't. I was blown away by the combat and graphics. The improvement from Origins was amazing.

I'm on my 9th playthrough of DA2. My personal opinion is... they would have had a winner if they had used open world discovery like they did with DAO. They just reused the same maps and areas to the point of boredom after a few playthroughs. It's hard to get through after a few playthoughs. I'm trying to take characters from DAO with different decisions into DA2 and see how it affects DA2 and for me this is the only replay ability factor of the new game.

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It's not as bad as people here say.

It is much, much worse. (and combat was far better in DA:O)

Modifié par ItsTheTruth, 25 juillet 2011 - 04:43 .


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I heartily disagree. Combat in DA2 is so much better. (imho? Oh, wait, no. We're stating facts.)

Combat in DA2 is a huge, HUGE step forward from slo-mo, waaaait combat in DAO.

The thing that probably turned away most self-declared hardcore gamers is the over-abudance of choices. People get intimidated by how many quests are hurled at them at the beginning of the respective acts.

Also, the story isn't your standard hero saves the world, sadly it's not a well done by-stander gets dragged into things story. Act 2 is by far superior towards the other acts, as things really come together there. Act 3, well... It's lacking, in story.

For me, DA2 is still way superior over Witcher 2. Witcher 2 combined annoying (shooter?) controls with a forced-down-my-throat story, dialog in there was really meh. Biggest disappointment since it tried to fill Witcher 1 shoes. Heck, by comparison, DA2 is nearly spot on with DA:O.

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CloudOfShadows wrote...
The thing that probably turned away most self-declared hardcore gamers is the over-abudance of choices. People get intimidated by how many quests are hurled at them at the beginning of the respective acts.

People were intimidated by too many choices?  Wow. That's a new one.

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Well the game failed on the most basic level for me. After a while (before I even finished my first playthrough) it just was not fun for me to play for several reasons.

Some people have less of a problem with some of these things than I did, so it really depends on who you ask.

I say play it for yourself and decide for yourself.

Modifié par Aaleel, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:05 .


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CloudOfShadows wrote...

I heartily disagree. Combat in DA2 is so much better. (imho? Oh, wait, no. We're stating facts.)

Combat in DA2 is a huge, HUGE step forward from slo-mo, waaaait combat in DAO.

The thing that probably turned away most self-declared hardcore gamers is the over-abudance of choices. People get intimidated by how many quests are hurled at them at the beginning of the respective acts.

Also, the story isn't your standard hero saves the world, sadly it's not a well done by-stander gets dragged into things story. Act 2 is by far superior towards the other acts, as things really come together there. Act 3, well... It's lacking, in story.

For me, DA2 is still way superior over Witcher 2. Witcher 2 combined annoying (shooter?) controls with a forced-down-my-throat story, dialog in there was really meh. Biggest disappointment since it tried to fill Witcher 1 shoes. Heck, by comparison, DA2 is nearly spot on with DA:O.



Now to your opinions, you're certainly entitled to them. But Witcher 2 was better than Witcher 1 by a stretch (despite the controls and story according to you, again, opinion not fact and this isn't the thread for that). And DA2 was the reverse. It doesn't even come close to it's predecessor (details, one well told story vs three disjointed ones--which could have been epic in their own rights, descriptions of items intead of "ring," periods of blacksouts for Hawke, the non-illusion of choice, reused dungeons, city dead, etc). It may have had more enjoyable combat for some (speed in between DAO and DA2 would rock, and the waves of paratrooping ninjas need to go by e-bye).

Did you like the game better than DAO? Appears so, good on you. Did you not like Witcher 2 better than Witcher 1? Apparently not, for which I am sorry, it sucks to not the like the sequel more, I know how that feels.

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It is a fun game, it has flaws, that have been mentioned mainly the copy pasta to crazy levels but the characters and story are fun. I really like that it isn't a save the world/country/town story but more of a personal journey that intersects with major themes that signify the Dragon Age world.

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I am not sure why but I just can't get into Witcher 2, I really wanted to like it. But I was not having fun with it, I guess I will try it again soon.

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Naltair wrote...

I am not sure why but I just can't get into Witcher 2, I really wanted to like it. But I was not having fun with it, I guess I will try it again soon.



Meh, it may not be your cup of tea, sweetie. Nothing wrong with that.

And the OP has to make up their own minds about whether DA2 is bad or good. Is it as bad as some make it out? Nope. Is it as good? Nope. We are humans, hear us exaggerate!!Posted Image

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ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

I have to be honest. Some things I like and some I don't. I was blown away by the combat and graphics. The improvement from Origins was amazing.


hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Hell, they're both outdated, but DA2's graphics are pathetic. You want mind-blowing graphics, go play Crysis or Final Fantasy XIII, to say you were blown away by Dragon Age's graphics is absurd unless you're referring to how outdated they are.

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I prefer the DA2 look mostly, I am a fan of stylized art. I think both games are attractive. The animations in DA2 are in my mind the better of the lot. I do miss the critical kills of DA:O though.

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Don't mind Gleym, he thinks it's still 2000 and wants every game to be a Torment remake.


Well there has been some talk of a Planescape 2 sooo,

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@ OP
I have been one of the most outspoken critics of the game, and I say, DA2 is not a bad game perse imo. I rather find it mediocre (as in I'd give it a 6 out of 10), with a poor story.

But you might get some enjoyment from it if you lower your expectations and play in a certain mindset.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:43 .


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alex90c wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

I have to be honest. Some things I like and some I don't. I was blown away by the combat and graphics. The improvement from Origins was amazing.


hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Hell, they're both outdated, but DA2's graphics are pathetic. You want mind-blowing graphics, go play Crysis or Final Fantasy XIII, to say you were blown away by Dragon Age's graphics is absurd unless you're referring to how outdated they are.



You know, if his legs were straight, it might not be as over the top.


and FFXIII had some of the best graphics I've ever seen. And God of War 3.

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alex90c wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

I have to be honest. Some things I like and some I don't. I was blown away by the combat and graphics. The improvement from Origins was amazing.


hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Hell, they're both outdated, but DA2's graphics are pathetic. You want mind-blowing graphics, go play Crysis or Final Fantasy XIII, to say you were blown away by Dragon Age's graphics is absurd unless you're referring to how outdated they are.


DA2 does have better graphics, which one has the better art style is debatable.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

But you might get some enjoyment from it if you lower your expectations and play in a certain mindset.


Please define certain mindset?

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and FFXIII had some of the best graphics I've ever seen. And God of War 3.


Only thing that bugged me about FF13 were how the hands were rendered (first time I saw it I was like 'lolwut?' but I mean I haven't played very far in to it, 2 hours in fact) but some of the cutscenes I thought looked lifelike, as if a filming company was told to make as amazing a film as possible with money being no object in creating their vision.

DA2 does have better graphics, which one has the better art style is debatable.


DA2s graphics are pathetic.

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^ Well, yes, there are however those furniture-people around Kirkwall that are terrifying. I can't remember any npc:s like that in DA:O. (And the art-style is horrific.. I die a bit on the inside every time I see DA2 armors.)

@OP Well, I think it is even worse than most here say it is.. but, do try it out, it might suit you.

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alex90c wrote...

DA2 does have better graphics, which one has the better art style is debatable.


DA2s graphics are pathetic.


Ok, you clearly lack the ability argue your point, so i'm not going to waste my time. 

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DA2 has better graphics than DAO. There's really no way an objective person can say otherwise.

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To answer the OP's question:

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It's actually a lot of fun, give it a go sometime and hopefully you'll agree.

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alex90c wrote...



and FFXIII had some of the best graphics I've ever seen. And God of War 3.


Only thing that bugged me about FF13 were how the hands were rendered (first time I saw it I was like 'lolwut?' but I mean I haven't played very far in to it, 2 hours in fact) but some of the cutscenes I thought looked lifelike, as if a filming company was told to make as amazing a film as possible with money being no object in creating their vision.

DA2 does have better graphics, which one has the better art style is debatable.


DA2s graphics are pathetic.


I didn't notice anything about the hands. They looked great to me (much better than Bethany's hands Posted Image)

I only hated the linearity of it. Other than that I thought it was a great game.

DA2 did do better in regards to the appearance of the humans, Qunari, elves (imo), and dwarves than Origins, though that deals with art style mainly. Of course, DA2 suffers from furniture people that you can walk through.

Going back to play Origins, a lot of people have very mushed faces (Nan and elder Miriam come to mind).

Not to mention the hands in Origins. You want to talk about gorillas? Look at a dwarven woman....

Anyway, in terms of graphics, as I haven't played PC versions of either game, I can't say which is better. I do think the trees look better in DA2 then they did in Origins.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 25 juillet 2011 - 06:13 .


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Atakuma wrote...

alex90c wrote...

DA2 does have better graphics, which one has the better art style is debatable.


DA2s graphics are pathetic.


Ok, you clearly lack the ability argue your point, so i'm not going to waste my time. 


I post a comparison picture showing how DA2's graphics suck and that means I "lack the ability" to argue my point? I'm not saying Origins' graphics were amazing, just that DA2's were even worse than Origins (which is pretty outdated, as much as I love the game).