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PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

If you are intelectual person, who grinds teeths over illogical things (or things that dont make sense), dont fancy plot holes, loves clever and funny non-combat parts of a game and even fancy some variety ... well then I have very bad news for you regarding quality of Dragon Age 2


I see the irony here. If you want to survive a fight you must be intelligent. Especially those in real life, 1v1's. If you're not, then you're literally screwed. So why so self-named "intelligent" people call those who enjoy other things are stupid (not directly but still), etc... ? No offense as you didnt intend one :whistle:, but you belong to the second group of people mentioned in my post. Can you imagine playing a game full of war story without fighting the enemy? (just an example)Story is also very important to me, but games are supposed to entertain peoiple and not to be taken soo seriously by bunch of bored people.


Quick aside here, intelligent and intellectual do not mean the same thing at all, they're different things. It doesn't imply greater-than-average intelligence to lead an intellectual life, and it doesn't mean you're thick if you are not an intellectual (I know some people who prove this beyond any doubt).

Being an intellectual is about how you use your mind and examine/reason about the world you live in, abstract concepts and your life. It's about choice, culture and/or nature, but not higher than average IQ.

A little OT for which I do apologise, but I thought it might be worth pointing out the difference.:wizard:

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Sidney wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

I would never suggest such a thing ... nor did I wanted to offend anyone ... but for my long observation of DA2 love / hate discussion I found out, that COMBAT oriented players prefer DA2 a lot on the other hand people who dont prefer combat, but are more about the story and the plot, the lore and how it works in game system ... meaning non-combat ie. intelectual (maybe i used wrong word, for that im sorry - english is not my first nor second language) just cant miss all the cuts done to plot, lore and logic itlself in the name of combat and game system ...

so Intelectual != Intelligent to be clear =)


In addition ot being offensive you are wrong.

DA2 doesn't have near the volume of combat as DAO. It strips out a lot of the long repetitive grinding dungeons (see the Deep Roads) from DAO in favor of much shorter dungeons. DAO is a grindy combat lovers dream. Heck, most of the whining is about "too fast", "no combat cam", "jumpy moves", "no weight to the weapons"  - all stuff related to combat. 


Go to Lowtown at night. There are about 6 places you can get jumped on by about 40 thugs. Multiply that by 3 for each act (18) then multiply that by three again to account for Hightown and and the Docks and you get 54. If having to grind your way through three groups of Sharpe's Highwaymen just to get to the Alienage for Fenris's quest isn't "repetitive grinding" (unless you cleared out the path earlier) then I don't know what is.

For some reason Bioware likes to think people can't go 2 minutes without COMBAT.

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Even with Legacy out/coming out (almost 11am gmt and still no download link) I still can't bring myself to play the game again...is it just me?

The problem for me I think is that the story is just so far off of the Origin story, even the characters that did come back into DA2 were a lame adaptation graphically and scriptwise that it's just put me off the whole franchise.
The story of Hawke and the family as a whole is fine but I would have rather just read the story than base a whole game around it, especially such a well loved title...I don't know, maybe IT IS just me lol.
It is the only BW game that I've felt no emotional attachment to my playable character in.

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The fans? heh!

Looking forward to the new DLC, and seeing a good game get even better.

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Travie wrote...

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Fallout 3, maybe. New Vegas...not so much


Kidding...?


No.  The biggest problem with New Vegas is the origin.  You are just some mail courier who gets shot in the head.  The joy of Fallout is that you are a character locked in vault.  You are seeing the world with fresh eyes, just as the character is, and you role play from there.  But the courier knew this world.  Knew all the factions.  It feels fabricated.  And when asking questions about the factions, my first thought was, "Doesn't this guy LIVE here?  Why would he not know anything? Amnesia from a gunshot? Bleh."

I don't dislike the game.  I played it and enjoyed it.  The music is great, and there's some great voice acting.  The companions were more fleshed out and there were choices to make in the game. My issue is that I never felt connected to my character.  Want to talk about a game where you just run errands? That's all you do.  Fallout 3 had a more cohesive plot and some great DLC in The Pitt.   Searching for Dad kept you focused.  There's no focus in New Vegas.

And the weapon bench was just confusing.  

I'll still take it over a lot of other games, but I was let down by New Vegas.  New Vegas needed to do what everyone complains about in DA 2.  It needed to make some changes to the gameplay and the overall look of the franchise.  It almost felt like a weird expansion pack for Fallout 3.  Again, I don't hate it.  (The Yes Man is a great character.)  It needed a better origin, a more cohesive plot, and something to push the franchise forward.  It just felt like it was in a holding pattern.  Which is a shame, because I do love the franchise.  My hope is that they were just throwing a bone to the old creative team, and that Fallout 4 will really push the mythos forward.  We've done the west, let's stay in the East.  It's dirtier and scarier.  And New York is just waiting....

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OP:
Don't belive in any 4Chan trolls conspiracy etc.
4.2 user scores on metacritics - it is well deserved.
If there is any "hyperbole" there - that must be critics 82 score - this score is way too high for this game.

The conclusion is up to you.

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The game itself is quite good... The gameplay works smooth and well.
The story begins pretty good and flows quite well until you reach the end then it feels rushed and unfinished.

The main question however is, is it a Dragon Age game, that is if you compare it to Dragon Age origins. Of course the game is set in the dragon age world, but it plays very different from the original dragon age origins and the story of DA2 is, for the moment, pretty detached from the original storyline of DAO. Your decisions etc of DAO are importable and will affect small portions of the game, but it doesn't really deliver a major impact.

Compared to DAO it also feels very rushed, a lot of extras that you had in DAO are not available in DA2, for example you can't really dress your companions, there are some items in the world that can be found/bought that are only usable by one of your companions, but even then these are mainly just stat-boosters and have almost no to no visual changes and there's more things like that missing like speaking to your companions while you're not in the camp and even in their houses you can't really speak to the companions unless they have something new to report.

The combat system of DA2 is faster and feels less like turn-based, though whether thats an improvement is of course in the eye of the beholder.

What annoyed me more than anything in DA2 in contrast to DAO is that you where very limited in your choices, in DAO you really got different choices to solve a problem and the oucomes would be different. In DA2 the only choice you get is HOW you decide get to the same outcome.

I played through DA2 two or three times, but cant really be bothered to play it more than that. I'm quite a big fan of the whole dragon age saga/world, so anything evolving around that gets my interests peeked. :)

In Short: Dragon Age 2 is a pretty good game, I would rate it somewere in the top ten of the best RPGs, however unlike Dragon Age Origins (which I would definately rate in the top 3, if not number 1) it isnt an epic game.

Modifié par TheLion36, 26 juillet 2011 - 11:41 .


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TheLion36 wrote...

The game itself is quite good... The gameplay works smooth and well.
The story begins pretty good and flows quite well until you reach the end then it feels rushed and unfinished.

The main question however is, is it a Dragon Age game, that is if you compare it to Dragon Age origins. Of course the game is set in the dragon age world, but it plays very different from the original dragon age origins and the story of DA2 is, for the moment, pretty detached from the original storyline of DAO. Your decisions etc of DAO are importable and will affect small portions of the game, but it doesn't really deliver a major impact.

Compared to DAO it also feels very rushed, a lot of extras that you had in DAO are not available in DA2, for example you can't really dress your companions, there are some items in the world that can be found/bought that are only usable by one of your companions, but even then these are mainly just stat-boosters and have almost no to no visual changes and there's more things like that missing like speaking to your companions while you're not in the camp and even in their houses you can't really speak to the companions unless they have something new to report.

The combat system of DA2 is faster and feels like turn-based, though whether thats an improvement is of course in the eye of the beholder.

What annoyed me more than anything in DA2 in contrast to DAO is that you where very limited in your choices, in DAO you really got different choices to solve a problem and the oucomes would be different. In DA2 the only choice you get is HOW you decide get to the same outcome.

I played through DA2 two or three times, but cant really be bothered to play it more than that. I'm quite a bit fan of the whole dragon age saga/world, so anything evolving around that gets my interests peeked. :)

In Short: Dragon Age 2 is a pretty good game, I would rate it somewere in the top ten of the best RPGs, however unlike Dragon Age Origins (which I would definately rate in the top 3, if not number 1) it isnt an epic game.



I agree with you 100%

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xkg wrote...

OP:
Don't belive in any 4Chan trolls conspiracy etc.
4.2 user scores on metacritics - it is well deserved.
If there is any "hyperbole" there - that must be critics 82 score - this score is way too high for this game.

The conclusion is up to you.


Yep.  Those "diz game sucks is a 0 homie" user reviews really cut to the point of why DA2 is bad.  I can't imagine why some of those people aren't getting paid to review games.

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aftohsix wrote...

xkg wrote...

OP:
Don't belive in any 4Chan trolls conspiracy etc.
4.2 user scores on metacritics - it is well deserved.
If there is any "hyperbole" there - that must be critics 82 score - this score is way too high for this game.

The conclusion is up to you.


Yep.  Those "diz game sucks is a 0 homie" user reviews really cut to the point of why DA2 is bad.  I can't imagine why some of those people aren't getting paid to review games.


Yep. Same as

95/100 PC Format with "an excellent game, with huge potential to become a modern classic."
100/100 Escapist with "A pinnacle of role-playing games with well-designed mechanics and excellent story-telling"

They are right on the spot aren't they ?
Professional critics FTW !!!

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xkg wrote...

Yep. Same as

95/100 PC Format with "an excellent game, with huge potential to become a modern classic."
100/100 Escapist with "A pinnacle of role-playing games with well-designed mechanics and excellent story-telling"

They are right on the spot aren't they ?
Professional critics FTW !!!


I didn't say they were.  Touting the meta-critic user reviews is just as bad as touting professional critic reviews.  You claim there was no trolling shennanigans with the user reviews but that's a lie.  /v/ was full of threads about rating the game down on launch day (I checked it out of curiosity.  I avoid the pit that is 4chan like the plague it is.)  So was RPG codex.

This board was full of new sign ups saying "CHECK THE METACRITC REVIEWS LOL LOL"

So don't sit there and pretend like they're totally accurate.

Modifié par aftohsix, 26 juillet 2011 - 11:52 .


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I loved the game as much as I love DAO. It was different, but then it was supposed to be. They never really said it was an extension of the first game, they said it was a story that was parallel to the first game. I still remember my first play through, having my character falling in love with Ander and the betrayal... I stared at my TV for a very long time thinking, did that just happen, what the hell am I going to do with him now... I never really had any moments like that in DOA... I don't know I thought it was a wonderful game and can not wait for the next. ((PS the only differnece I found was I loved all the NPCs in DAO, there were a couple I really didnt not like in DA2

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aftohsix wrote...

xkg wrote...

Yep. Same as

95/100 PC Format with "an excellent game, with huge potential to become a modern classic."
100/100 Escapist with "A pinnacle of role-playing games with well-designed mechanics and excellent story-telling"

They are right on the spot aren't they ?
Professional critics FTW !!!


I didn't say they were.  Touting the meta-critic user reviews is just as bad as touting professional critic reviews.  You claim there was no trolling shennanigans with the user reviews but that's a lie.  /v/ was full of threads about rating the game down on launch day (I checked it out of curiosity.  I avoid the pit that is 4chan like the plague it is.)  So was RPG codex.

This board was full of new sign ups saying "CHECK THE METACRITC REVIEWS LOL LOL"

So don't sit there and pretend like they're totally accurate.


Link(s) please or it is you who is lying. Simple as it is.

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xkg wrote...

aftohsix wrote...

xkg wrote...

OP:
Don't belive in any 4Chan trolls conspiracy etc.
4.2 user scores on metacritics - it is well deserved.
If there is any "hyperbole" there - that must be critics 82 score - this score is way too high for this game.

The conclusion is up to you.


Yep.  Those "diz game sucks is a 0 homie" user reviews really cut to the point of why DA2 is bad.  I can't imagine why some of those people aren't getting paid to review games.


Yep. Same as

95/100 PC Format with "an excellent game, with huge potential to become a modern classic."
100/100 Escapist with "A pinnacle of role-playing games with well-designed mechanics and excellent story-telling"

They are right on the spot aren't they ?
Professional critics FTW !!!


A Pinnacle of role-playing....? What?

Hahahaha.

You have to forgive me. I just can't help it. I think the Escapist must have errorneously thought it as a pinnacle of rocket propelling games with excellent action pacing.

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 26 juillet 2011 - 12:06 .


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xkg wrote...

aftohsix wrote...

xkg wrote...

Yep. Same as

95/100 PC Format with "an excellent game, with huge potential to become a modern classic."
100/100 Escapist with "A pinnacle of role-playing games with well-designed mechanics and excellent story-telling"

They are right on the spot aren't they ?
Professional critics FTW !!!


I didn't say they were.  Touting the meta-critic user reviews is just as bad as touting professional critic reviews.  You claim there was no trolling shennanigans with the user reviews but that's a lie.  /v/ was full of threads about rating the game down on launch day (I checked it out of curiosity.  I avoid the pit that is 4chan like the plague it is.)  So was RPG codex.

This board was full of new sign ups saying "CHECK THE METACRITC REVIEWS LOL LOL"

So don't sit there and pretend like they're totally accurate.


Link(s) please or it is you who is lying. Simple as it is.


Says the guy who was't here during the launch.  I can't link you to something from 3 months ago on 4chan.  That's not how the site works.

www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php

"Add me to friends on Bioware Social, so I could follow your trolling Posted Image "

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aftohsix wrote...

xkg wrote...

aftohsix wrote...

xkg wrote...

Yep. Same as

95/100 PC Format with "an excellent game, with huge potential to become a modern classic."
100/100 Escapist with "A pinnacle of role-playing games with well-designed mechanics and excellent story-telling"

They are right on the spot aren't they ?
Professional critics FTW !!!


I didn't say they were.  Touting the meta-critic user reviews is just as bad as touting professional critic reviews.  You claim there was no trolling shennanigans with the user reviews but that's a lie.  /v/ was full of threads about rating the game down on launch day (I checked it out of curiosity.  I avoid the pit that is 4chan like the plague it is.)  So was RPG codex.

This board was full of new sign ups saying "CHECK THE METACRITC REVIEWS LOL LOL"

So don't sit there and pretend like they're totally accurate.


Link(s) please or it is you who is lying. Simple as it is.


Says the guy who was't here during the launch.  I can't link you to something from 3 months ago on 4chan.  That's not how the site works.  Quit being a d-bag.


Dude i was here. You looking at my account creation date ??? hehe lol ok nevermind.

But do you know how much is your word worth without any proofs ? Yeah i wont tell you - i hope you know.
Like in court - you need some evidences to find anyone guilty. You have nothing ? -- > You are lying.

Thats all about it.

aftohsix wrote...
www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php

"Add me to friends on Bioware Social, so I could follow your trolling Posted Image "


I thought we are talking about Metacritics scores.
That odesn't sound like "lets go to Metacritics and bomb DA2 scores"

Modifié par xkg, 26 juillet 2011 - 12:12 .


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Look. They were here spamming and trolling these boards into nothingness. They did the same with the user review scores. I'm not going to go searching for "definitive evidence" because at this point I just don't care all that much and I'm of the opinion that metacritc user scores are as worthless as official metacritic scores. I know what kind of game I like and what kind I don't like.

I will say that you can't argue purposely reviewing something a group of gamers didn't like down in mass is something that hasn't been done by members of the gaming "community" before. See Cooper Lawrence's book review on Amazon or look at the metacritic user reviews for Portal 2.

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Yeah you are right. Lets just drop it.
I'll say there was nothing like "trolling the scores"
You have no proofs - you can't say there was. I mean you can but your word has no impact at all in this case.

Let's leave the conclusion of our discussion to others.


Ps. I am not some mindless DA2 basher. If you happen to find some posts calling for metacritics score bombing post here some links. I will be the first to say I was wrong and you were right.

Modifié par xkg, 26 juillet 2011 - 12:37 .


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Well I bought the signature edition the day it came out but haven't gotten to play it yet cuz I save my most favorite or intereting games last with Dragon Age 2 being the last one. I have Darksiders to complete which I'm playing now and then I have Cursed Mountain, The Calling, Tales of the Abyss, Tales of Vesperia, Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World, Alice Madness Returns, Alan Wake, and Dead Space 2. So it won't be for a while before I play Dragon Age 2. I was hoping this game would be better than the original! I love bioware games with KOTOR being my favorite even though it's really old. I liked Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1 but was dissappointed in them a lil cuz I thought the story and character interaction would be more epic. But I did like them. I still haven't played Mass Effect 2 cuz that's on the last of the list even though I didn't mention it before because i'm not going to play it until Mass Effect 3 comes out then I will play the whole trilogy. Anyways Dragon Age 2 ain't that bad is it? Ign gave it a 8.5 out of 10. What makes you fans dislike this game so much? Are the characters better in part 2 or is Origins better in that area? Also I will get the Legacy DLC too when it comes out in 2 days and all future DLC. Also will there be an expansion pack for Dragon Age 2 like there was for Origins? Also what would you rate all 3 dragon age games from best to worst (Dragon Age Origins, Dragon Age Awakenings, and Dragon Age 2)

Sorry for the long post and thanks and god bless


KOTOR is indeed a good game. I was astonished by how well Bioware managed to translate Star Wars into a game driven by D&D D20-mechanics. Back then, I recommended KOTOR to a friend of mine. First of all, he was put off by the pausing and the turn-based combat - he found the handling of blasters and lightsabers to be dull. Secondly, he was annoyed and bored by all the non-combat related aspects of the game, especially the running and the NPC-interaction. "Where's the fun in that? I want to use my lightsaber!" he said.

DA2 is a game aimed for that former friend of mine. If DAO is meant to appeal to those who enjoy KOTOR, then DA2 is meant to appeal to those who enjoy The Force Unleashed. It's still a game about Darkspawn and mages like KOTOR and The Force Unleashed are both about jedi and the Force, but plays in a very different matter. I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing. Games doesn't have to be solid RPG's in order to be amusing - I play Minesweeper on a regular basis, and it certainly isn't because of the great NPC-interaction. You might enjoy DA2, but it'll be for different reasons than you enjoyed DAO - emphasis on the "might"-part.

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I personally love it.

I do understand how it can be jarring following DAO. There were significant changes to the core elements of the game that makes it feel significantly different. The Combat is completely revamped, the character progression (no more skills, but a far more detailed ability tree), the internal significance of stats changed, dialogue is very different, and the very storytelling itself is very different (instead of this epic "save-the-world" story, DA2 is more about Hawke's trials and tribulations as he rises from nobody to Very Important Person over the course of the better part of a decade. It's less epic, more personnal, and revolves around the same locations over the years). So it IS quite different from DAO, though I believe it is improved at least in Combat and character progression and in the dialogue system (and the story is hard to judge, being such a different style, both are great IMO).

Normally I think this would have been fine, but the problem is that DA2 also had a much shorter development cycle than DAO (something like a year and a half compared to 5 years for DAO). And it shows in the overall quality of the product. There is a lot less "polish" and "flavour" material in DA2 than DAO. Itemization is much simpler, the game also reuses a lot of ressources (most notably maps, which are re-used a lot to represent different locations, something like the Uncharted World mission buildings in Mass Effect 1). It is also something of an overall feeling: DAO is full of fun details, not so much in DA2. It's not bad at all, but clearly suffers from the comparison to the very polished DAO.

So my thinking about DA2 is that for a lot of players it would have been fine if not for the drop in "quality" as per the above paragraph. This drop made it MUCH harder for hardcore fans to accept the significant changes to their beloved game, and so created a very negative response. My feeling is if they had spent another year polishing the game and adding more maps and such, the reactions would have been a lot more positive and tolerant of the core changes.

But, IMO, if you look at the game on its own, it is bloody good. The combat is excellent (though not perfect, I admit, though I believe it is better with the latest patch), the character progression much improved (even without skills), and the dialogue system is excellent (there is something of an argument with not being able to imbue Hawke with our own voice and personality, but the fact is we retain as much control as before, and get a far better cinematic experience). And the storytelling is very well done, and I would say of higher quality than DAO (being more emotional and deeper in many instances), but of a very different style that many do not like as much as the epic storytelling of DAO (you don't get big epic moments much... but you do get lots fo finely crafted personnal moments).

That's not to say some people don't dislike it for other reasons, but I think the root of the major outcry was due to the lower polish resulting from its short cycle making it much harder to accommodate the major core changes.

But I strongly suggest you giving it a try. Just don't think of it as a continuation from Dragon Age Origins, but as a different tale within the Dragon Age world (that happens to overlap with DAO). I strongly suggest playing on Hard, incidentally, if you want challenging combat (normal is like DAO's "easy" difficulty, which is another point that frustrated people, admittedly).

I've been replaying it the last few weeks in anticipation of Legacy, and I definitely think it is a good product. Combat is fun, storytelling is excellent, and the recent patch does help IMO. And I say this after spending much time religiously playing The Witcher 2 (an excellent game, certainly, but of a very, very different style. It's an action-RPG, whereas DA2 has a much more traditional party-based combat).

So, in closing, no, I don't think it is as bad as some of the reaction. It's a good game, and you should give it a try.

Itkovian

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nicolom wrote...

KOTOR is indeed a good game. I was astonished by how well Bioware managed to translate Star Wars into a game driven by D&D D20-mechanics.


It wasn't Bioware translation.
If you are interested in PNP RPGs there is RL Star Wars d20 RPG system published by Wizards of the Coast.

http://en.wikipedia....s_of_the_Coast)

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aftohsix wrote...

Look. They were here spamming and trolling these boards into nothingness. They did the same with the user review scores. I'm not going to go searching for "definitive evidence" because at this point I just don't care all that much and I'm of the opinion that metacritc user scores are as worthless as official metacritic scores. I know what kind of game I like and what kind I don't like.

I will say that you can't argue purposely reviewing something a group of gamers didn't like down in mass is something that hasn't been done by members of the gaming "community" before. See Cooper Lawrence's book review on Amazon or look at the metacritic user reviews for Portal 2.


There's no denying that the metacritic score for DA2 was artificially deflated. The simple act of making a 0 or 1 review is itself intellectually dishonest, when looking at the actual game's quality. It'd have to be something unplayable to get that low. :)

That's not to say there is no value in the user review score: clearly a lot of people were dissatisfied with it and decided to voice their displeasure by artifically crashing its user review score, so that is telling in an of itself. But the end result is that the score is not an accurate portrayal of the game's actual quality.

Moreover, it is rather unfortunate when we see that something that used to be dependable proves itself to be vulnerable to the equivalent of political campaigning. Essentially, that groups of people with an agenda will do what they can to voice their displeasure as loudly as possible, by giving impossibly low reviews in order to make the devs hear their voices, with their desire to be heard trumping any desire to make a fair and balanced review.

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Alicia Keys wrote...

Well I bought the signature edition the day it came out but haven't gotten to play it yet cuz I save my most favorite or intereting games last with Dragon Age 2 being the last one. I have Darksiders to complete which I'm playing now and then I have Cursed Mountain, The Calling, Tales of the Abyss, Tales of Vesperia, Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World, Alice Madness Returns, Alan Wake, and Dead Space 2. So it won't be for a while before I play Dragon Age 2. I was hoping this game would be better than the original! I love bioware games with KOTOR being my favorite even though it's really old. I liked Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1 but was dissappointed in them a lil cuz I thought the story and character interaction would be more epic. But I did like them. I still haven't played Mass Effect 2 cuz that's on the last of the list even though I didn't mention it before because i'm not going to play it until Mass Effect 3 comes out then I will play the whole trilogy. Anyways Dragon Age 2 ain't that bad is it? Ign gave it a 8.5 out of 10. What makes you fans dislike this game so much? Are the characters better in part 2 or is Origins better in that area? Also I will get the Legacy DLC too when it comes out in 2 days and all future DLC. Also will there be an expansion pack for Dragon Age 2 like there was for Origins? Also what would you rate all 3 dragon age games from best to worst (Dragon Age Origins, Dragon Age Awakenings, and Dragon Age 2)

Sorry for the long post and thanks and god bless


I liked it and enjoyed it.  I do agree the spawn waves, and reused maps(The Cave) could have used some more polish though. Except for those two items I enjoyed everything else.

Keep in mind most of the people who say DA2 is bad are the same people who give 0-1 Star on a Review site for a game for having any minor flaw. Like I know a game that someone gave 0 stars to in a review because the graphics were not computer breaking level of detail. (If your curious this was League of Legends, which is a rather popular and enjoyed game by many)

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DownyTif

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If you expect a sequel and loved DAO, it's a disaster. If you expect a fast action RPG a la Final Fantasy where the '2' in Dragon Age '2' means almost nothing, well it's decent. Definitely not the best RPG on the market at the moment, but worth trying at reduced price if and only if you liked the demo.

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No, it's not as bad as people make it out to be. It's disappointing after what we got from Origins, but that doesn't make it a bad game.