Praetor Shepard wrote...
If the blade has a crystalline structure like a ceramic, and is as hard or harder than diamond, then it might not need mass effect fields to brace it to the forearm and be effective against body armor and synthetics.
But ME fields would be necessary to even consider making the blade in the first place.
Inutaisho7996 wrote...
PeopleLGTX wrote...
You guys are probably putting more thought in this then the developers themselves. Which is wrong.
They're more-or-less explainable and look cool to an average player. That's all there is to it, opinions aside.
Or the marketing team doesn't think putting the codex entry for omni-blades in advertisments is a good idea.
Xarathox wrote...
Just getting annoyed at all the assh*les lately.
"why r u discoosing tings an web f0rumz desined to discu tings??1!!!1 trolololo" <_<
Gatt9 wrote...
Suspension of disbelief only occurs when you choose a subject that isn't well known to the viewer. Magic works because we cannot rule out the possibility that there are forms of energy we haven't yet discovered, and because we've seen Magicians.
FTL works because most people don't understand physics, and because some science indicates Warping space might be possible.
A Holographic lightsaber doesn't work because we've all played with them at our science centers, and more than a few of us played arcade games that were Holographic. We know it doesn't hurt, just like we know that water won't burn a hole in your stomach with one gulp.
It gets especially worse when you spent the last two entries defining it as harmless.
Modifié par Phaedon, 26 juillet 2011 - 11:57 .
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Am I the only one who find the omni-tools and the blade stupid?
They are like a smudge on a beautifull image of the universe (to me at least).
Pride Demon wrote...
Well, an hologram is light bended to a
peculiar shape using either mirrors or electricity and magnetic fields,
given what we know of ME technology it's not unfeasable to think one
could overclock the magnetic field as to become seamingly semi-solid:
Tech Armour does this, the Shadow Broker Omni-shield did this, he*l even
normal kinetic barriers (vulgarly known as shields) do this all the
time...
It's the magnetic field that does all the work, the light
shape is probably only for show and to allow the user to see where
he/she is hitting (considering magnetic fields are generally invisible
to the human eye)
The fact it's not actually a solid object
explains how easily it penetrates armour... Then it probably discharges
some sort of electric shock that burns the target nervous system,
perfect one hit kill...
Praetor Shepard wrote...
I know, but I'd like to see some elbows mixed in to the animations, all the same.Someone With Mass wrote...
Praetor Shepard wrote...
I hope we can still throw a few as a Vanguard and Soldier.
The new "normal" melee, both with pistols and rifles, looks much better than the elbow spam.
Phaedon wrote...
Hey, you guys, I'll say that the story is ruined due to lack of suspension of disbelief, but I'll also mention lightsaber to berate it, not realizing that it defeats my argument since Star Wars is universally considered a great sci-fi series.
People forget that Omni-Tools aren't purely holographic, they're wrist
mounted projectors, with a built in minifacturing unit. It took me a
long time to get my head around that fact playing ME1. It's effectively a
nanoforge, a device that can replicate items from a base material (in
this case, Omnigel). Hence you don't run out of materials for Tech
Grenades. I'll be honest, that concept is not highly based in reality.
It's an extremely hard thing to do, but in the Mass Effect universe it's
eas easy as throwing people around with your mind.
Pride Demon wrote...
I believe one of the devs answered with the molecular blade explanation, though I don't remember the details...
with magicLotion Soronnar wrote...
Persoinally I don't like them. They smell (stink) os a cheap gimmick for hte Gears of War/Gods of War, etc.. crowd.
But what ARE they? Omni-tools use a holographic interface..that yelllowish thing that appears around the hand with bottuns and stuff.
How the hell do you kill someone with a hologram??????
Well-crafted is often used as a different name for the Star Wars extended series.Lotion Soronnar wrote...
It might be popular, but I sure as hell wouldn't use the SW universe as an example pf a well-crafted and excellent universe.
Omni-tools make perfect sense. They are haptic interfaces and holograms projected by a machine that is placed (presumably) on your hand. And they can, in fact, be broken. A turian in the VIP section of Afterlife say so.Well, I did say Omni-tools themselves bug me. Nano-forge? That can construct items in a fraction of a second? with large storage of medi-gel...erm..where exactly? Where do you fit all that?
IMHO; hte unvierse would be better off without omni-tools and omin-blades.
LGTX wrote...
Inutaisho7996 wrote...
PeopleLGTX wrote...
You guys are probably putting more thought in this then the developers themselves. Which is wrong.
They're more-or-less explainable and look cool to an average player. That's all there is to it, opinions aside.
Or the marketing team doesn't think putting the codex entry for omni-blades in advertisments is a good idea.
People are wound up about the omni-blade here, not the marketing. I wouldn't want to involve myself at discussing the marketing...Xarathox wrote...
Just getting annoyed at all the assh*les lately.
"why r u discoosing tings an web f0rumz desined to discu tings??1!!!1 trolololo" <_<
By your logic, disagreeing with a topic is not discussion (seriously?), and insulting members is by all means permitted. I kind of fail to see how I'm the one breaking the "rules" above described.
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Phaedon wrote...
Hey, you guys, I'll say that the story is ruined due to lack of suspension of disbelief, but I'll also mention lightsaber to berate it, not realizing that it defeats my argument since Star Wars is universally considered a great sci-fi series.
It might be popular, but I sure as hell wouldn't use the SW universe as an example pf a well-crafted and excellent universe.People forget that Omni-Tools aren't purely holographic, they're wrist
mounted projectors, with a built in minifacturing unit. It took me a
long time to get my head around that fact playing ME1. It's effectively a
nanoforge, a device that can replicate items from a base material (in
this case, Omnigel). Hence you don't run out of materials for Tech
Grenades. I'll be honest, that concept is not highly based in reality.
It's an extremely hard thing to do, but in the Mass Effect universe it's
eas easy as throwing people around with your mind.
Well, I did say Omni-tools themselves bug me. Nano-forge? That can construct items in a fraction of a second? with large storage of medi-gel...erm..where exactly? Where do you fit all that?
IMHO; hte unvierse would be better off without omni-tools and omin-blades.
Phaedon wrote...
Gatt9 wrote...
Suspension of disbelief only occurs when you choose a subject that isn't well known to the viewer. Magic works because we cannot rule out the possibility that there are forms of energy we haven't yet discovered, and because we've seen Magicians.
FTL works because most people don't understand physics, and because some science indicates Warping space might be possible.
A Holographic lightsaber doesn't work because we've all played with them at our science centers, and more than a few of us played arcade games that were Holographic. We know it doesn't hurt, just like we know that water won't burn a hole in your stomach with one gulp.
It gets especially worse when you spent the last two entries defining it as harmless.
Hey, you guys, I'll say that the story is ruined due to lack of suspension of disbelief, but I'll also mention lightsaber to berate it, not realizing that it defeats my argument since Star Wars is universally considered a great sci-fi series.
Purely holographic? Are you serious?
Do you realize that not only we have seen tons of functions that would require non-holographic components in the previous two games but also that...
Omni-tools WOULDN'T work if they only consisted of holographic components?
But no, let's just disregard the fact that omni-tools are NOT purely holographic, that we have seen them have several different functions in the previous games and books, but let's use our own facts because we dislike the look of omni-blades, and plus, this is BSN, one of the places on the web were constructing arguments on fake "facts" and disregarding other facts is acceptable.
Praetor Shepard wrote...
Pride Demon wrote...
I believe one of the devs answered with the molecular blade explanation, though I don't remember the details...
From what I've read it was Patrick Weekes who mentioned it on twitter.
And the tweet was regarding a "diamond monoblade created from canonically present omni-tool fabrication tech". Iakus has a blog entry in his sig, and here's a link.
Gatt9 wrote...
Phaedon wrote...
Gatt9 wrote...
Suspension of disbelief only occurs when you choose a subject that isn't well known to the viewer. Magic works because we cannot rule out the possibility that there are forms of energy we haven't yet discovered, and because we've seen Magicians.
FTL works because most people don't understand physics, and because some science indicates Warping space might be possible.
A Holographic lightsaber doesn't work because we've all played with them at our science centers, and more than a few of us played arcade games that were Holographic. We know it doesn't hurt, just like we know that water won't burn a hole in your stomach with one gulp.
It gets especially worse when you spent the last two entries defining it as harmless.
Hey, you guys, I'll say that the story is ruined due to lack of suspension of disbelief, but I'll also mention lightsaber to berate it, not realizing that it defeats my argument since Star Wars is universally considered a great sci-fi series.
Purely holographic? Are you serious?
Do you realize that not only we have seen tons of functions that would require non-holographic components in the previous two games but also that...
Omni-tools WOULDN'T work if they only consisted of holographic components?
But no, let's just disregard the fact that omni-tools are NOT purely holographic, that we have seen them have several different functions in the previous games and books, but let's use our own facts because we dislike the look of omni-blades, and plus, this is BSN, one of the places on the web were constructing arguments on fake "facts" and disregarding other facts is acceptable.
1. Perhaps you missed the part where Bioware described it as Holographic?
2. Perhaps you'd like to actually deal with the subject I posted instead of strawmanning?
Your constant inability to actually deal with post content is getting tiring. As well as your tendency to make things up.
Modifié par Il Divo, 26 juillet 2011 - 11:32 .
Modifié par Davie McG, 27 juillet 2011 - 12:17 .
Davie McG wrote...
This topic came up a while ago, in fact I think my first post was on this topic.
Omni tools and blades may seem sci-fi and unrealistic, to paraphrase Mark Twain, real life is stranger than science fiction.
Companies are working at this very moment on technology that isn't a massive leap away from omni tools.
Its made from this stuff and this is the kind of thing people could do with it.
I'm not saying omni blades are made from graphene technology, their made from a sci-fi writers imagination.
My point is that even though it is fiction it's not that far away from plausible, especialy considering it's set in the distant future and similar inventions could hit the market in the next few decades.
Also, it's a sci-fi video game, I'll never understand people who get so worked up about this kind of stuff.
Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Phaedon wrote...
Hey, you guys, I'll say that the story is ruined due to lack of suspension of disbelief, but I'll also mention lightsaber to berate it, not realizing that it defeats my argument since Star Wars is universally considered a great sci-fi series.
It might be popular, but I sure as hell wouldn't use the SW universe as an example pf a well-crafted and excellent universe.People forget that Omni-Tools aren't purely holographic, they're wrist
mounted projectors, with a built in minifacturing unit. It took me a
long time to get my head around that fact playing ME1. It's effectively a
nanoforge, a device that can replicate items from a base material (in
this case, Omnigel). Hence you don't run out of materials for Tech
Grenades. I'll be honest, that concept is not highly based in reality.
It's an extremely hard thing to do, but in the Mass Effect universe it's
eas easy as throwing people around with your mind.
Well, I did say Omni-tools themselves bug me. Nano-forge? That can construct items in a fraction of a second? with large storage of medi-gel...erm..where exactly? Where do you fit all that?
IMHO; hte unvierse would be better off without omni-tools and omin-blades.
Daiyus wrote...
The theory of wrist mounted Minifacturing Units and Holographic interfaces does intrigue me, and that includes a "how do they do that?" way. I agree, "where do they fit all that?". Their technology is far more advanced than ours is (thus my limited scientific knowledge really isn't enough), and on top of that, it's a world with different physics anyway (already nullifying a lot of my scientific knowledge). Not to mention the developers probably don't know exactly how it all works, they throw limited science at it, and that's enough for most people.
Captain Kibosh wrote...
As I've mentioned in a separate thread, the omni-blade is the NutraSweet to the sci-fi sugar that is the lightsaber. 'Nuff said.
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