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[Xivai]

Valentia X wrote...

While I'll let any planet burn if it means saving the galaxy, when it comes to choices, my scale of choice is population viability > colonies > soldiers avaliable > cultural impact. This puts the krogan/Tuchanka at the bottom of my 'nuke 'em all and let God sort them out' list, while the asari and the salarians (from what little we know of their reproduction) are closer to the top.

Not much value now, but the Krogan could be of use later. More so with the cure being used on them. Even if it is only temporary. Imagine if you could feidl the vast swarm tactics of Krogans with the training of Grunt and Wrex. WOuld be a powerful force, even if it was small starting out.

I would double their soldier value or tripple it compared to the others. All they need is a little time.

[Someone With Mass]

Why should I sacrifice other races just to save Earth to begin with?

[Fatemaster]

nhsk wrote...

Do Vorcha even have a homeworld?

Damn yeah! Good news: it´s overpopulated with them!:happy:

[robarcool]

BiO_MaN wrote...

Definitely an interesting situation.

I would expect Paragon would be sacrifice Earth. Renegade is obvious.

Hmm, I honestly don't know...

I don't see anything here paragon and renegade. This situation is similar (though the consequences are lot bigger) to when you could save the council or focus on Sovereign. You get paragon points for saving the council and more paragon points for focussing on Sovereign because you saved plenty of humans. 
But on a side note, the topic is interesting.

[Skullheart]

I would sacrifice Palaven, Thessia and Sur'Kesh. If they can´t deal with their own problem then why are they part of the council (or were part of the original council).

Modifié par Skullheart, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:31 .

[Candidate 88766]

Militarily speaking, the Asari, Turian and Human homeworlds are essential. These are the three superpowers of the galaxy. The Salarians are powerful, but less so. Out of the 5, I would sacrifice Tuchunka. Wrex and the Krogan are awesome, but I would imagine they are of very limited use in a galactic war. The Reapers have ground forces in the form os husks, but they are primarily massive starships and you need species with massive fleets to counter them. As far as I know, humans, Asari and Turians have the largest fleets, much of which will likely be stationed to defend their respective homeworld and so their homeworlds must be saved in my opinion. Also, without a cure the Krogan will be extinct soon anyway. With a cure, they could expand out of control again and so that is pretty much out of the question.

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 25 juillet 2011 - 05:30 .

[Meshaber]

Certainly not Sur'kesh, Palaven or Thessia. Probably not earth.

[Tonymac]

I'd let earth go in a heartbeat. Its a cosmic dumpster.

[robarcool]

I think Thessia could be sacrificed, for Asari can reproduce with any other species and are quite widespread.
Surkesh shouldn't be sacrificed because all (or most) salarian females will die, leading them to extinction and also, they are the brainiacs of the galaxy. So they can probably device soome good weapons for use against reapers.
Krogan are already very less and there aren't any females apart from Tuchanka (I am not sure about this one).
I don't know if turians are very widespread, so I won't take a chance on them. Besides, they are the cavalry.
Humans, well 11 billion seems too much or maybe I am being selfish.

[LorDC]

The Big Nothing wrote...

If, during the War Against the Reapers, your resources are stretched thin and you can only save four homeworlds, but there are five (Tuchanka: Krogan, Sur'Kesh: Salarians, Palaven: Turians, Thessia: Asari, Earth: Humans), which planet would you sacrifice?

How would you feel about this type of choice?


The things to remember are: 

1) Sacrificing Tuchanka means potentially dooming the krogan or the galaxy. There are so few krogan as it is, and if you didn't keep the genophage cure, then say 'bye-bye' to the most resilient species ever. If you did keep the cure, then say 'hello' to Krogan Rebellion 2.0 for turning on them once again.

2) Sacrificing Sur'Kesh means dooming the salarians. They are the most short-lived and intelligent species, 90% of which are male. The few females tend to stay on Sur'Kesh, so, if Sur'Kesh is gone, the baby-makers are gone too.

3) Sacrificing Palaven means losing the greatest military power. They may see the destruction of their homeworld as revenge for The First Contact War, which might spark another war with the turians once they recover.

4) Sacrifing Thessia means damaging the oldest, but most versatile and numerous species. The asari homeworld is the core of the largest economy in the galaxy, however. If Thessia falls, the economy collapses, leaving billions poor and starving after an already devastating war.

5) Sacrificing Earth means sacrificing Earth. The majority of humanity resides on Earth. Like, 11 billion or something.  Are you crazy?

Tuchanka is a win/win choice. Krogans are meaningless on galactic scale plus no political fallout whatsoever. I might consider sacrificing Sur'Kesh to destroy Salarians. Problem is that most probably they will be able to evacuate females. Sacrificing Palaven is not worth it because Turian fleets will be still there. Sacrificing Thessia won't work too. Asari have a lot of colonies and people so they will quickly recover.
Sacrificing Earth? Are you serious? No way.

[pablodurando]

 OP, I think you're ignoring the size of the colonies, excluding Earth.  Theres a volus colony in me2 that has 4 billion voluses and an elcor colony in me2 that has over 200 million.  Chances are colonies of Turians, salarians, and Asari are even bigger.  The only infraction I might see would be that the race who's planet gets destroyed will be mad enough to defect from the council. 

Population wise you can't sacrifice Tuchanka or Earth without completly destroying the near future of that species.   Salarians are IMO too unique in thier knowledge and Turians are just too powerful.  Destroying Palaven could cause the First Contact War redux.  I think the safest bet would be Thessia since Asari in the galactic community are the most expendable, and they're snobby.  Plus I hate asari, death to all blue people.

[AtreiyaN7]

Out of all these races, the krogan are the ones who could pose a substantial threat to the galaxy. Therefore, I would let Tuchanka burn before Earth. I'm a Paragon, but I'm not really willing to sacrifice my homeworld in this case.

[Soccer FeverMan]

Bye Bye Thessia, like a bunch of people said they're the most spread out and can reproduce with any other race. Like hell im sacrificing Earth that would mean no more futbol, Barça forever

[DarkDragon777]

NO! Thessia is to good to sacrifice. I would sacrifice Tuchanka.

[Arppis]

Earth propably.

[Soccer FeverMan]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

NO! Thessia is to good to sacrifice. I would sacrifice Tuchanka.

YEAH RIGHT!!! nah im just joking i mean i like the krogan, I don't wanna kill Grunt im his Battlemaster

Plus c'mon the Asari have been around for a very long minute and theres at least 30 billion+ of them, with maybe 20-30 percent being on colonies.

[Zkyire]

The Big Nothing wrote...

If, during the War Against the Reapers, your resources are stretched thin and you can only save four homeworlds, but there are five (Tuchanka: Krogan, Sur'Kesh: Salarians, Palaven: Turians, Thessia: Asari, Earth: Humans), which planet would you sacrifice?

How would you feel about this type of choice?


The things to remember are: 

1) Sacrificing Tuchanka means potentially dooming the krogan or the galaxy. There are so few krogan as it is, and if you didn't keep the genophage cure, then say 'bye-bye' to the most resilient species ever. If you did keep the cure, then say 'hello' to Krogan Rebellion 2.0 for turning on them once again.

2) Sacrificing Sur'Kesh means dooming the salarians. They are the most short-lived and intelligent species, 90% of which are male. The few females tend to stay on Sur'Kesh, so, if Sur'Kesh is gone, the baby-makers are gone too.

3) Sacrificing Palaven means losing the greatest military power. They may see the destruction of their homeworld as revenge for The First Contact War, which might spark another war with the turians once they recover.

4) Sacrifing Thessia means damaging the oldest, but most versatile and numerous species. The asari homeworld is the core of the largest economy in the galaxy, however. If Thessia falls, the economy collapses, leaving billions poor and starving after an already devastating war.

5) Sacrificing Earth means sacrificing Earth. The majority of humanity resides on Earth. Like, 11 billion or something.  Are you crazy?

If given the choice? Tuchanka will burn.

[GreenDragon37]

I'd let Tuchanka burn. They are used to it.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

If I had to pick one, I'd pick the Krogan homeworld... because that's what the Krogans would want... a great battle against worthy/superiour adversaries... it's everything they live for.

[Xarathox]

BiO_MaN wrote...

Definitely an interesting situation.

I would expect Paragon would be sacrifice Earth.

I agree with this.

[Agamo45]

I'd let Thessia be destroyed. The Asari are a weak race and ill-fit to be the dominant species, they need to be knocked down a few steps. And they're spread all over the galaxy, it won't be genocide.

[Fixers0]

It's very interesting that quite a few people on this board. seem to think that sacrificing earth as a possible option, but when is make a thread that actually the Alliance should deliberately let earth die, (keeping the Reapers while finding a way to destroy them) because that would be economical beneficial for the Alliance, then people complain on how in his name i could come to such a conclusion.

[jamesp81]

Probably Sur'Kesh.

I disagree that they can't recover. Short lifespan implies very high birthrate. It's a requirement, actually, or their worlds would all be low population and barely settled by any other standards.

They are also in the galactic north, not part of the first wave of reaper attacks. There will be plenty of time to disperse the females to other worlds.

[jamesp81]

Fixers0 wrote...

Earth, it just an Alliance money sinkhole anyway.


99% of the Resources the Alliance need comes from outside of the sol system, so really it's much more economcial benficial for the Alliance to stop wasting time defending that 'acid waste slum' and focus on stopping the reapers.

Resources /= industrial capacity.

The raw resources recovered from the colonies do you no if there isn't industry to fabricate weapons.  The lion's share of that industry is in the Sol system.

So, if you want there to be anything left of humanity after the war is over, Earth had better not be a smoking crater.

[jamesp81]

Xivai wrote...

Asari. Economies can be fixed. THey have a large and stable population with many colony worlds and the most adaptable form in terms of giving birth. Hah, this is an easy one.

Well it's not THAT easy, so much people still have to die. Asari in this case. Loss of diversity not a viable option, all species vital. No other species can recover as fast as the Asari either or are too vulnerable and would be finished off from the attack to rebuild. Sorry, but your own success is your downfall in this case.

If I can see reasons later on to pick another over the Asari I would obviously consider it.

This will not be a Titan A.E event. http://movieclips.co...h-is-destroyed/

The Asari, however, self evidently have the lowest birth rates.  They live a very long time, yet they don't overrun the galaxy with their numbers.  Ergo, very low birthrates.  It's hard for them repopulate on a large scale.

This is why I gave the Salarians the shaft.  They have stable, large populations on their worlds despite their short lifespan.  That requires very high birthrates.

The Salarians are also not the first to get hit, since they're in the galactic north (other side of the galaxy from reapers' entry point).  There will be sufficient time for them to disperse their female population among their various worlds to ensure that not all of them are lost on Sur'Kesh, should it come to that.