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#301
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Hmm, Dwarves encountered darkspawn first, primeval thaig, Lyrium idol that sings, Sandal, Dwarves and the Tevinter....they seem heavily involved in most things but we need more Dwarf info.

I do hope we visit Kal-Sharok in DA3, they may have more dirt/info on their history that Orzammar have removed/destroyed.

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I'm happy we finally have an explanation why every mage and their brother in Kirkwall is a blood mage.

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Huntress wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Sided with the ghoul and I have to say, I'm really interested in knowing what the deal is with Corypheus. Do you think he honestly was a Tevinter Magister or do you believe he was delusional? Does it get clarified if you side with the woman instead, or does that lead to the same confusion?

Makes me wonder if the Architect is a Tevinter Magister too.


The ghoul is going to spreed the taint plus what ever he carry inside.. great plan!

Both characters get possesed by that thing, but wich is the worst of the two? the ghoul or the mage warden.. i sided with the mage warden, am not letting lose a ghoul.. Ghoul carry the plague, the mage warden still need to find alies, she is probably heading to Tavinter.

It seems  the corruption started after they went to the black city but it appears the city was black before they even enter the veil.. That only mean 1 thing, the maker left before anyone had entered the city or maybe the maker was the one who corrupted the city.. Can a god get tainted? hmm, maybe the elves god have soemthing to do with all this, not just the tavinter god-dragons.




Ghouls don't spread the Blight. He's a former Warden. Wardens carry the taint in their blood. If they spread the taint, then Amaranthine (specifically Vigil's Keep) would be completely corrupted. People would be serving the Darkspawn left and right.

If Wardens spread the Blight disease, then Anders' clinic wouldn't do much good.

Darkspawn are the only things that spread the Blight disease. Everything else just gets infected with it, but can't actually spread it. Nothing in game shows that ghouls spread the Blight disease to other people.

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Aye, keep in mind the act of the Joining is a special mixture of blood and magic. Including the blood of an Arch Demon on top of it. Requires a group of mages to aid in it's creation. They don't just take a shot of blood and call it a day. In fact that process of the joining some how enhances their abilities on top of it. Something Avernus was able to enhance further. Also Darkspawn seem to carry the diseases. Ghouls like Grey Wardens die from the taint over time. Unlike Darkspawn. How long they last may depend on their shear will power.

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I loved this DLC, had everything I wanted! Great party dialogue, difficult enemies and quite annoying (hated those big genlocks with shields) but in a good way.

Love Corypheus, didn't expect him to be like that!

Imagine in DA3, the wardens, included yours in Origins head to find more like him to finally stop the Blight and go to the Black City. I'd pay to fight there!

Modifié par Link Ashland 614, 27 juillet 2011 - 06:52 .


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dreamextractor wrote...

Does Fenris get an LI specific scene? I noticed in one youtube vid that Isabela would talk to Hawke about Malcolm, even with Bethany there. Had Fenris in my party but Carver did that for me.


I didn't come across any Fenris LI specific scene/dialogue during my playthrough :unsure:

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It is indeed very cool, and satisfying to see the original Magisters-turned-darkspawn actually named in game.
There have been so many specualtions about the Architect being one etc, nice to see it play out a little.

Now let's see if any of the Flemeth/Fen-Harel theories turn out to be true =] they are quite clever after all.

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As for the DLC, loved it, sided with Larius, made sense, epic end battle, keep it up!

Modifié par Nauks, 27 juillet 2011 - 07:41 .


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Dave of Canada wrote...

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Wow, really? I played it right at the beginning of Act 2, so I didn't know romances effect it. Do all the romances feature in Legacy somehow?


Carver: So, Merrill and you.
Hawke: Yes, Merrill and I.
[paraphrase] Carver: Wonderful, happy for you.
[paraphrase] Merrill: Wait, did I miss something? D:



When did u get this, I romanced her, took Merrill n Carver n never heard anything, when did this trigger for u, pretty please Posted Image

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Thessair wrote...

I'm happy we finally have an explanation why every mage and their brother in Kirkwall is a blood mage.

That's just a theory made by one of the Wardens, though, and one that no one bothered to test.

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Thor Rand Al wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Wow, really? I played it right at the beginning of Act 2, so I didn't know romances effect it. Do all the romances feature in Legacy somehow?


Carver: So, Merrill and you.
Hawke: Yes, Merrill and I.
[paraphrase] Carver: Wonderful, happy for you.
[paraphrase] Merrill: Wait, did I miss something? D:



When did u get this, I romanced her, took Merrill n Carver n never heard anything, when did this trigger for u, pretty please Posted Image


Carta base after fighting the two Brontos just before finding the gate key, I think it was.

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Anyone have some suggestions on taking down Corypheus.   I have completed the DLC with the exception of killing off Corypheus.  I cannot think of a way to attack him after he goes up on the pedestal and starts his flamethrower routine.  Any help would be very appreciated!

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

If you talk to Carver (I only did a playthrough of it with Carver), he says "Bloody voices! I can hear them!"


Your sibling's taint isn't as far advanced as Anders' though. Anders has been a Warden for longer. Not much longer, but still longer.


But not by much, I mean think about timeline, The Deep Roads was only after the first year of them arriving at which time the blight was defeated and Anders Made it to Kirkwall after that as well, So Amerantine happened what 6 months after or less, so in essance he was only tainted a year maybe two years longer than Sibling. SO, my conclusion to that is it has to be Justice. 

PS, No romance Banter for Fenris/Hawke? (post Campaign)  Anyone know. My banter has not been great at all, I have only found two spots that trigger and they have been nothing to write home about.  Varric had funny things. I had Bethany Fenris Varric, now I am working on Anders Fenris Bethany, and still not. 

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select all party members , move to 1 of the 4 pillars, select it, kill the mobs that appear, then move onto the next pillar after the flame moves past you.

Apparently the flame does little dmg if you in the pillar alcoves when it passes.......I will try that next time as i killed the mobs then ran before the flame got to me ;)

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mcsquared2 wrote...

Anyone have some suggestions on taking down Corypheus.   I have completed the DLC with the exception of killing off Corypheus.  I cannot think of a way to attack him after he goes up on the pedestal and starts his flamethrower routine.  Any help would be very appreciated!


Someone said, Set each one of your companions to different Pillars at the same time. I don't know, I had to drop to Casual to finish, I did set my new one up with some elemental warding Runes. 

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Siven80 wrote...

select all party members , move to 1 of the 4 pillars, select it, kill the mobs that appear, then move onto the next pillar after the flame moves past you.

Apparently the flame does little dmg if you in the pillar alcoves when it passes.......I will try that next time as i killed the mobs then ran before the flame got to me ;)


This was the way that I did it. 

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It was good to see that some of the origin of the Darkspawn was explored and that the Chantry is not telling the whole truth. However now I really want to see what is int he black city. What corrupted these people to the point where they became Darkspawn?

Also the family connection was amazing, loved it <3.

Modifié par Mr.House, 27 juillet 2011 - 08:12 .


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So in my first playthorugh I took Varric, Templar!Carver, romanced Isabela and Snarky!Hawke. It was just awesome. The fights are improved but sometimes it frustrated me even though there werent any flying dwarves. Like the time when I wanted to get out of a building there were 10 dwarves in the doorway and 2 or 3 assassins. It was not a hard fight but after killing bazilion enemies I just facepalmed. Maybe its just me, but I didnt liked that. But I can say that the fights are improved! Very much so infact.
I also loved the conversation between Varric and Hawke.
Hawke: Why cant they want my spit or my hair instead of my blood?
Varric: Do you really want to meet a Spit mage?
or a follow up on that conversation by Carver: Was Father a Key mage, perhaps?
The last battle was really great! I just loved it! It was hard too, and challenging. And I was really confused when the magister possessed that old warden commander! And poor Varric having to kill his friend who created Bianca!
The second playthrough was also great I went with romanced Merrill and Circle!Bethany and Aveline. Bethany asked if Hawke and Merrill have nicknames for eachother and that they are very cute couple. I had to laugh because I heard my angry Hawke blushing and denying everything, and Merrill being confused. Also I read a post with some reference to Wardens choice on sparring or killing the Architect. Where can I see this? I havent got that :(

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Siven80 wrote...

select all party members , move to 1 of the 4 pillars, select it, kill the mobs that appear, then move onto the next pillar after the flame moves past you.

Apparently the flame does little dmg if you in the pillar alcoves when it passes.......I will try that next time as i killed the mobs then ran before the flame got to me ;)


My silly companions always get stuck on the rocks when I do that. And if I try to make them hold position at the pillars, they wander off. Posted Image

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tmp7704 wrote...

Thessair wrote...

I'm happy we finally have an explanation why every mage and their brother in Kirkwall is a blood mage.

That's just a theory made by one of the Wardens, though, and one that no one bothered to test.


True, but it's better than what we had before.

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ReallyRue wrote...

Newnation wrote...

So would you get the most out of this dlc by playing it in act 1 or 2(Before all that remains)?


Bethany/Carver being in the Wardens makes it more interesting, I think. And you get a post-DLC conversation with MamaHawke if you do it before All That Remains. So I'd say yeah.



I got this conversation with my mother as a ghost.  All of my Hawkes' currently except for one I'm currently playing are all post game.  My PC shut her eyes and conjured an imagine of my mother and spoke with her, or she imagined the conversation and how it would go if her mother was alive.  She also had a conversation with Uncle Gamlen at the end.

Also, my brother and sister were both dead, and so was Anders.  I had a limited party to choose from.  I took Aveline, Varric, and Merrill.  Thank the Maker I had loads of elfroot and health pots.

I think on the pillar thing, on the pc version I think you use the keys ctrl then A for all party members to attack the same pillar and this also keeps them close to your side.  I think you can look up the key options in one of the menus from one of the screens.  I'm thinking the the gameplay screen? 

I also missed  my helmet with that puzzle room.  I unlocked the puzzle but didn't see any color streams green or blue or didn't realize that I had to go back to the room.  I did find a room with a blue haze over the doorway and I couldn't access this.  I also couldn't get all of the demons to unlock out of their rooms for the Malcom's will quest. 

Corypheus in my humble opinion was one of the Trevinter Magisters who entered the Golden City, and for some reason it was already black and tainted.  This was my impression.  I was unsure if the Warden Commander was possessed or not.   I think one of my mages will keep him alive just to see what happens with future dlc and DA3. One thing that I did catch was the Warden Commander saying after the battle that he couldn't hear the song anymore for his calling.  I found that very interesting. 

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 27 juillet 2011 - 08:52 .


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Daddy Hawke seems to be voiced by the same guy who did Male Hawke, Nicholas Boulton. Hawke was his own father!
I may be mistaken, though.

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No I don't think you're mistaken, same voice actor.

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It was a great DLC.

I have to say that this was more my expectations for DA2. I felt the entire story moved forward. I also felt for the first time, why Hawke was important for the Thedas.

Still I can see how the Warden and Hawke have to join forces to fight the new evil, which is even more deadly than a chantry civil war and a Orlais war with Ferelden.

Party Members I want back for DA
Leading Warden and/or Hawke
Allistar
Isabella
Varrick
Leliana

The problem is going to be with Mages.

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Was this addressed already? This DLC is supposed to take place *before* the final events of The Last Straw, right? Then why are Anders and Sebastian not options as companions for me? In this particular game my Hawke let Anders go, Sebastian stormed off and then Anders came back and forced me to kill him. And yet I can't choose them as companions in teh DLC. -_-

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mrfinke wrote...

dreamextractor wrote...

Does Fenris get an LI specific scene? I noticed in one youtube vid that Isabela would talk to Hawke about Malcolm, even with Bethany there. Had Fenris in my party but Carver did that for me.


I didn't come across any Fenris LI specific scene/dialogue during my playthrough :unsure:


I did. It was with Anders, Fenris and Varric.

Fenris: Running from the Circle, running from the Wardens. I'm starting to see a pattern with you.
Anders: Running from Tevinter to Danarius. Running from Danarius to Hawke. I think you and I are a lot alike.
Varric: I've always thought so.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 27 juillet 2011 - 09:41 .