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Wisecracking femHawke was having so much fun in this DLC. Also, I like having the sibling back for at least one mission. Must... approve.

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Persephone wrote...

For those who played it in Act III....

I had tears in my eyes as the scene before the fireplace happened... Dear Leandra, My heart went out to my Lady Hawke there. And AMAZING VO acting from Jo there. :crying::crying::crying:


Have to admit I wiped a tear away myself, it kind of made up for the whole lack of feeling during all that remains...

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What happened to all the romance ?SPOILERS in DAO it was there we all loved it,in DA2 it was down played ( a lot) missed the feeling of having a true companion who loved me by my side, if even to kiss after a nasty battle or a mother dying. Would like to see some of the emotions come back to the game to give it a true to life adventure feeling. the banter in the background is getting better SPOILER when Varic says something about '' if he pulls a dragon out of his a--, I'm leaving. I had to pause the game and have a good laugh for about 10 min.So please I am a hopeless romantic and would like to see more of kissing and cuddeling, sorry guys but thats just the way I am

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So further updates... Damn, I missed the helmet with my warrior, have to go back! Finally figured out and did the orb battle... EPIC.

Fenris says a lot more without Anders around... he seems to take the bits where Anders would speak if Anders was around (like at some of the viewpoints for example).
Bethany as warden is way more win than Bethany as mage in the circle.
Also Fenris as friendmance seems to be slightly different in tone than as rivalmance. Though it might all have to do with the lack of Anders around!
Aveline is interesting enough and her outrage at the carta is sweet.

Varric and Anders so far are the definite winners for dialogue and extra interaction.
Have 2 characters in act 2, shall give them a shot to see the dialogue with mom still alive.
Also, it seems to me that Fenris+Anders is a fun combo in one sense (when Anders has his freakouts), but mostly not good because Fenris barely says a word with Anders around.
I can't wait to try the Janika then Larius that you all are talking about. Though going Janika all the way with blood mage aggressive Hawke was SUPERB. Hawke told Janika at the end something to the extent "go kill yourself, you undeserving douche". It was priceless.

Other than for the gear, I'm not sure of the point in doing this in act 1. No love interests yet really (that the game would recognize)... no templar/circle or warden business with sibling... I don't know, what's the appeal?

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I notice they didnt say 'which' warden commander,at the end. Hmnn

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Yuqi wrote...

I notice they didnt say 'which' warden commander,at the end. Hmnn

What if the Warden-Commander in question is Sophia Dryden? (possessed, zombified Sophia, who can make a cameo in DA2 - so is she really vanquished?) Image IPB

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Someone else probably had the same theory, but I don't really want to wade through this entire thread.
At the end of the DLC after you kill Corypheus it seems to be strongly hinted that Larius is now Corypheus's vessel/Corypheus did a body jump into Larius. Who else can do such a thing? Flemeth. It may be a leap, but this suggests to me that Flemeth may be one of the Tevinter magisters as well. It also suggests that the Architect may still be alive even if you killed him in Awakening since he's likely a Tevinter magister.

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whykikyouwhy wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

I notice they didnt say 'which' warden commander,at the end. Hmnn

What if the Warden-Commander in question is Sophia Dryden? (possessed, zombified Sophia, who can make a cameo in DA2 - so is she really vanquished?) Image IPB


I guess to do that they would have to retcon her for those of us that killed her, not that that hasn't been done before lol

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Macropodmum wrote...

I guess to do that they would have to retcon her for those of us that killed her, not that that hasn't been done before lol

Considering that Larius had been at the prison for at least 30 years, he may think that the possessed-Dryden is still alive. If demons can communicate across the Fade, or through some other means, then Dryden could have been somehow calling out to the Warden.

I haven't done a playthrough with Janeka alive at the end yet, so my suggestion may be complete fluff (it may be anyhow, regardless of playthrough), but I found it a sinisterly funny notion that it could be the 'undead' Warden-Commander being referenced.

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whykikyouwhy wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

I notice they didnt say 'which' warden commander,at the end. Hmnn

What if the Warden-Commander in question is Sophia Dryden? (possessed, zombified Sophia, who can make a cameo in DA2 - so is she really vanquished?) Image IPB


Sophia is dead in my playthrough, lol.

I think they left it ambigious, on purpouse. There is the warden commander of feralden, and others from other nations. If it was one from another nation,why leave it ambigious :whistle:

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I thought that the DLC was very well done. I brought along Carver, Anders and Varric. I was very surprised to find out that the dead dwarf you found was actually a descendant of Varric's house, Tethras! Although, he didn't really seem to care all that much. >.>

I thought that the end boss was very fun and challenging, even on Casual, since your mates like standing in the fire, guess they've never played WoW. :P


Hah, you know when I saw the flame walls I went: Well, thank god I raid in WoW.

I managed to have everyone live except Bethany on my 3rd try.  Unsure what it was about it; maybe a delay when she casts?  But even moving the entire group and clicking on stragglers still had Bethany in the flame for far too long.  The third try I even took the walls to the face if I didn't think I could escape in time.

I was a bit disappointed that there wasn't more babble about your romantic interest.  Other than Varric mentioning I wasn't a virgin and my mother disapproving of my Fenris relationship I got nada :P  I might have to take different party members to get the real dirt!

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Regalia of Weisshaupt (warrior), were is the location of this armor? Ive found all parts except for the breast plate... Help?

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Jeedi wrote...

Regalia of Weisshaupt (warrior), were is the location of this armor? Ive found all parts except for the breast plate... Help?

It should be a loot drop when you defeat Corypheus.

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whykikyouwhy wrote...

Jeedi wrote...

Regalia of Weisshaupt (warrior), were is the location of this armor? Ive found all parts except for the breast plate... Help?

It should be a loot drop when you defeat Corypheus.


LOL, running around looking for it. Thought you would get it before that battle... Thanks!

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Macropodmum wrote...

I never noticed it in my last playthrough but I've just noticed my hawkes eyes are glowing. Anyone else get this?

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I got that with my first Hawke. It's a little strange. :happy: But the others were fine.  

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DeaHamlet wrote...

So further updates... Damn, I missed the helmet with my warrior, have to go back! Finally figured out and did the orb battle... EPIC.

Fenris says a lot more without Anders around... he seems to take the bits where Anders would speak if Anders was around (like at some of the viewpoints for example).
Bethany as warden is way more win than Bethany as mage in the circle.
Also Fenris as friendmance seems to be slightly different in tone than as rivalmance. Though it might all have to do with the lack of Anders around!
Aveline is interesting enough and her outrage at the carta is sweet.

Varric and Anders so far are the definite winners for dialogue and extra interaction.
Have 2 characters in act 2, shall give them a shot to see the dialogue with mom still alive.
Also, it seems to me that Fenris+Anders is a fun combo in one sense (when Anders has his freakouts), but mostly not good because Fenris barely says a word with Anders around.
I can't wait to try the Janika then Larius that you all are talking about. Though going Janika all the way with blood mage aggressive Hawke was SUPERB. Hawke told Janika at the end something to the extent "go kill yourself, you undeserving douche". It was priceless.

Other than for the gear, I'm not sure of the point in doing this in act 1. No love interests yet really (that the game would recognize)... no templar/circle or warden business with sibling... I don't know, what's the appeal?



ACT 1 the return home to talk to your mom seems to change carvers attitude towards you helping mages he is fine with what ever decision you seem to make. I think it was a huge for him to find out daddy was a blood mage. I expected to get a responce to Dumat quest when getting a amulet but got no responce from my brother. But I do agree no appeal. I wanted Flemeth to make a comment but no change there. if you take merril she is facinated by the dumat quest.

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omearaee wrote...

Macropodmum wrote...

I never noticed it in my last playthrough but I've just noticed my hawkes eyes are glowing. Anyone else get this?

Image IPB


I got that with my first Hawke. It's a little strange. :happy: But the others were fine.  



did you drink purity potion hawk is the only one that can use it and you have 15 in your hot key bar.

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whykikyouwhy wrote...

Jeedi wrote...

Regalia of Weisshaupt (warrior), were is the location of this armor? Ive found all parts except for the breast plate... Help?

It should be a loot drop when you defeat Corypheus.



on corypheus I also am having problems with getting cowl playing it through ps3

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the helmet/cowl is very tricky to get, at least when you side with Larius. you have to basically backtrack and redo the flame jets puzzle after clicking on all the power nexus things.
I have to go back and redo it. The only time I got the cowl was when I sided with Janika because it never crossed my mind to go back after clicking the nexus points. Nor did it occur to me to go back after getting that warm orb stuff either... it's a bit of a weird idea to be honest.

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I don't understand why a lot of critic sites blast on DA II and its DLC. The game was great, and the DLC further seals the deal that we can expect high quality content for DA II

heres the link for gamespot: http://www.gamespot....ary;read-review

a 5.5 is such BS. the content had no glitches, and the party members followed me perfectly in the final boss fight. Some of the critics need to get there facts straight. I think they are just wanting to Bash DA II

Bioware, congrats!!! I hope more DLC will come out (after story DLC, or an expansion would be kick a**).

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DeaHamlet wrote...

the helmet/cowl is very tricky to get, at least when you side with Larius. you have to basically backtrack and redo the flame jets puzzle after clicking on all the power nexus things.
I have to go back and redo it. The only time I got the cowl was when I sided with Janika because it never crossed my mind to go back after clicking the nexus points. Nor did it occur to me to go back after getting that warm orb stuff either... it's a bit of a weird idea to be honest.


I tried to go back with larius but I must have gone to far it did not allow me. He kept saying we have to move foward. I will try again tky for the heads up the game is wierd. I have been working on figuring out an easier way to beat the magister spawn. must be a way to destroy the nexus power ups he gets.

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This was an amazing DLC from Bioware. It is far better in my opinion than most of the stuff they did for DAO (awakening excluded, was an expansion, not small dlc). I did it in act 1 with my femhawke mage, and took Varric, Carver, and [memory read error, please try thinking again latter]. I just forgot who the last party member was! That means to me that person didn't have much unique dialog for my playthrough. I will have to try this again with a Rouge Hawke and try this again in act 3 to experience the differences for myself!
I loved the puzzles in this one for some reason. The rainbow lamps puzzle was fun, but not frustratingly so. I was also digging the banter between the siblings. That seems to be key for getting the most out of it if the sibling is alive for your playthrough.

I hope that they do more meaty dlc content like this in the future. Best of all, it included all new areas to see and explore which this game needs far more of! Keep it coming guys and gals, you are finally on the right track with DA2!

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I forgot to mention that I also loved the story in this one, and the story revelations found throughout the adventure were very compelling to a lover of the DA lore such as myself.  The father's involvement and the thing with Corpyus(? I can't remember how to spell his name) at the end were most welcome moments.  Bravo one more time for this add-on.  

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One thing I found that was a "oh well' moment was that I did the saving Nathaniel quest this time around after I did Legacy with Bethany as a warden. It seemed to me that at the end of Legacy Bethany understood and was no longer angry at Hawke for making her a warden, but when I got to Nathaniels quest and Bethany was there she was back to being snarky again.

N.B. To the posters still responding to my picture of Hawke with glowy eyes ~ Yes it was the potion as is mentioned a few pages back...

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I've seen in different places where people say they had Carver.. When I started Legacy Carver wasn't available!! But I have to say Legacy is by far the best DLC I have gotten so far Awakening in my opinion wasn't very good. DAO is still my favorite I guess because you could interact with your party members so much. Amongst many other reasons!!! Hats off for the GREAT DLC!! Hopefully more to follow I want no NEED more!!

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I loved the Legacy DLC. After reading all the comments here I have to bring up something that's bothered me since DAO but may make sense now. All of the Old Gods were and are in the form of High dragons, but I don't believe they truly are dragons at all. EVERYONE in Thedas knows that only FEMALES can become high dragons. The males are much smaller drakes. So, why are the old gods always referred to as male, as He or His? There would be no reason to assume an entire change of gender just because you worship something when all evidence points to the impossibility of your god actually being of said gender.

This of course makes one wonder why they would take on the form of a dragon at all? Did they have a choice as to what form they took? Were they something else in the Fade that was forced into dragon form when they were cast down to the world? Did they then seek revenge on whatever cast them out by charming Tevinter's into worshiping them with the ultimate goal of having those mages attack the Golden City for revenge?

Ah, now I'm confused all over again.