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Golden Owl

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Shadowfang12 wrote...

I prefer Meer over Hale anyday. But then again I am a dude, so that's kinda obvious.


I'm a woman and LOVE his voice...it's sexy, thats also obvious...:P

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Golden Owl wrote...


Could be quite a good discussion, if some people weren't so insecure Dragon....you need to attack other peoples preferences, why?


Nobody on the internet knows how to debate.

It's all, "you suck! Your opinions suck! Go die!"

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mrsph wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...


Could be quite a good discussion, if some people weren't so insecure Dragon....you need to attack other peoples preferences, why?


Nobody on the internet knows how to debate.

It's all, "you suck! Your opinions suck! Go die!"


That sux....:P....Seriously though, it is a real pity, I love a good debate, not arguement and its hard to find one.

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Shadowfang12 wrote...

I prefer Meer over Hale anyday. But then again I am a dude, so that's kinda obvious.


No, not really.  If you pay attention on these boards (and indeed, to this very topic), you'll find many male players who prefer Hale's performance, and many female players who prefer Meer's.

Modifié par didymos1120, 28 juillet 2011 - 01:45 .


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Golden Owl wrote...
Could be quite a good discussion, if some people weren't so insecure Dragon....you need to attack other peoples preferences, why?


Inferiority complex.

Sad really.

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Golden Owl wrote...
Could be quite a good discussion, if some people weren't so insecure Dragon....

Maybe it's osmosis; their goddess sounds perpetually pissed-off, so they end up sounding that way too. :whistle:

Modifié par Sundance31us, 28 juillet 2011 - 01:49 .


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An interesting tidbit according to interviews is how they voice Shepard differently. Meer voices paragon and renegade lines differently. While Hale likes to treat Shepard as one big consistent character.

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I think they both portray Shepard the same way... based on moods. Sometimes Shepard is in the mood to be nice (Paragon) while other times Shep is not (Renegade).

Meer and Hale in the interview were talking about the Paragon/Renegade paths.

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Most people gets quickly impressed by Jen's credentials on IMDB and they jump on "I hate Mark Meer" bandwagons just because he doesn't have a similar resume:lol:.

To all of them I say:
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I appreciated Meer's work much more than Hale's because I think it's more in line with the character's default appearance, and he doesn't exagerates most of the lines as she does, specially in ME2.

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Dragon XIX wrote...
Less than 15% use your smoking hot monkey, so that would mean femShep is better than Vanderloo.


I believe she meant the male Shepard in general. Also, it's still a moot point because that means Sheploo is played almost as much as all the FemSheps put together.

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I'm aware.  I'm a preemptive femShep defender, I have to drop bombs when I can.


And this is part of the problem. FemShep or ManShep, people shouldn't be attacking a character. You starting fights over ManShep/Sheploo makes you the same as FemShep haters. No need for preemptive strikes.

Why do ManShep and FemShep players need to fight? Why can't we be friends?

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Mark Meer is great, people hate on him because barely anybody plays femShep going by the statistics, and so people who play only femShep either feel like they need to defend their choice or like her just because she has a female voice.

Marks voice is more ambiguous as well making it easier to suit different looking characters. Mark wins in my book.

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i think people r just butt-hurt because Meer doesnt make shepard out to be a constipated, chainsmoking spacemarine.

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CRISIS1717 wrote...

Mark Meer is great, people hate on him because barely anybody plays femShep going by the statistics, and so people who play only femShep either feel like they need to defend their choice or like her just because she has a female voice.


OK, one:  18% is nearly a fifth of ME players.  That's not "barely anybody".  Two: stop making stupid, sweeping generalizations about the psychological motivations of thousands based on the idiocy of a few random people on a single internet forum.

Modifié par didymos1120, 28 juillet 2011 - 03:35 .


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Hellbound555 wrote...

i think people r just butt-hurt because Meer doesnt make shepard out to be a constipated, chainsmoking spacemarine.


Instead he sounds like a constipated, bored spacemarine.

Neither Shepard is very stellar. Despite the talents of their VAs.

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Need i say AGAIN how pointless topics like these are? two people can listen to the same VA performance and have totally different opinions on it. i don't like Solid Snake's voice much. does that make me wrong? no. it means i personally don't care for it. honestly anyone who likes Hale isn't going to change their mind just because a Meer fan talks bad about her. and the same applies on the flip side of that.

just agree to disagree already and let this topic be done already.

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The Twilight God wrote...

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Ya. i don't see why everyone is so down on Meer and up on Hale. I've played both and their about on par.

Meers work is shoddy for a paragon,  He is perfect for the renegade.  Hale is good at both.  That is the difference.  


Nope. Works just fine here. Didn't care much for the icequeen performance of Hale renegade thou.


Hale sounds bored, tired and nonchalant. A female voice just isn't intimidating. Definitely wouldn't be my first choice for a renegade.

 

So I am to assume you've never pissed your mother off? :whistle:

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I guess some are looking for more of a dude-bro personality like Hollywood portrays military heroes.

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Mark plays the Renegade Voice far better than Paragon. That said, I find his VO work to be just fine. I can't picture Shepard without his voice.

I like Hale and I find her work on Shepard is great, but Mark is just as good IMO.

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Arppis wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

Ya. i don't see why everyone is so down on Meer and up on Hale. I've played both and their about on par.

Meers work is shoddy for a paragon,  He is perfect for the renegade.  Hale is good at both.  That is the difference.  


Nope. Works just fine here. Didn't care much for the icequeen performance of Hale renegade thou.

To you, he doesn't work for me.  Meer's work as the paragon Shep leaves me feeling meh.  I actually rented ME from Gamefly before I actually bought it.  I thought Meer's VA was so bad, I returned the game to Gamefly before finishing Eden Prime.  He makes me not care about maleShep.  Then I picked it up for less than $20 used and played as femShep.  I fell in love with the game.  That to me makes all the difference in the world.   

This is also the only franchise, that I have ever liked playing a female.  As one myself, you'd think I would play all my games with females, but I don't.  Now I have two actually.  Dragon Age is another I play a lot with a female character.  
I have KotOR and I only used a female Revan to romance wussy boy Carth once.  All my other playthroughs were male.

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I think Hale and Meer are both awesome as Shepard. But Shepard aside, I'm personally impressed by Meer's voice work with the characters (albeit minor) in the DA series.

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Ryzaki wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

Arppis wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

Ya. i don't see why everyone is so down on Meer and up on Hale. I've played both and their about on par.

Meers work is shoddy for a paragon,  He is perfect for the renegade.  Hale is good at both.  That is the difference.  


Nope. Works just fine here. Didn't care much for the icequeen performance of Hale renegade thou.


Hale sounds bored, tired and nonchalant. A female voice just isn't intimidating. Definitely wouldn't be my first choice for a renegade.

 

So I am to assume you've never pissed your mother off? :whistle:


In general women are smaller and physically weaker than me. I have no reason to be intimidated by them. If a woman came up to me and started threatening me, I'm sorry, but fear would not enter the equation. That is simply the way it is and there is nothing wrong with that.

And as an adult I'm not too worried about my mother being pissed off at me.

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The Twilight God wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

Arppis wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

Ya. i don't see why everyone is so down on Meer and up on Hale. I've played both and their about on par.

Meers work is shoddy for a paragon,  He is perfect for the renegade.  Hale is good at both.  That is the difference.  


Nope. Works just fine here. Didn't care much for the icequeen performance of Hale renegade thou.


Hale sounds bored, tired and nonchalant. A female voice just isn't intimidating. Definitely wouldn't be my first choice for a renegade.

 

So I am to assume you've never pissed your mother off? :whistle:


In general women are smaller and physically weaker than me. I have no reason to be intimidated by them. If a woman came up to me and started threatening me, I'm sorry, but fear would not enter the equation. That is simply the way it is and there is nothing wrong with that.

And as an adult I'm not too worried about my mother being pissed off at me.

I am 5'4" and have imtimidated many men by just being me.  I had my husband tell me that a former boss was actually scared of me.  I did almost knock that jerk out one day and I think he knew it too.

Modifié par ladyvader, 28 juillet 2011 - 05:16 .


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ladyvader wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

Arppis wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

Ya. i don't see why everyone is so down on Meer and up on Hale. I've played both and their about on par.

Meers work is shoddy for a paragon,  He is perfect for the renegade.  Hale is good at both.  That is the difference.  


Nope. Works just fine here. Didn't care much for the icequeen performance of Hale renegade thou.


Hale sounds bored, tired and nonchalant. A female voice just isn't intimidating. Definitely wouldn't be my first choice for a renegade.

 

So I am to assume you've never pissed your mother off? :whistle:


In general women are smaller and physically weaker than me. I have no reason to be intimidated by them. If a woman came up to me and started threatening me, I'm sorry, but fear would not enter the equation. That is simply the way it is and there is nothing wrong with that.

And as an adult I'm not too worried about my mother being pissed off at me.

I am 5'4" and have imtimidated many men by just being me.  I had my husband tell me that a former boss was actually scared of me.  I did almost knock that jerk out one day and I think he knew it too.


Pff, it's not you who's big ( you're small compared to most women where I live) it's that those guys are wimps. 


This argue/thread is stupid beyond the point of... anything. 

My eyes bleed harder than my ears bleed when I hear Femshep... 

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I don't think either is bad

tho I will admit to Markie being less believable as a paragon

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Alright i give up. as a veteran of many pointless debates i try to make people see how pointless topics like these are. but i guess my voice falls silent among most. people are going to like what they like. why try to justify it?