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[sackyhack]

I've always preferred Meer because he sounds like a professional soldier. Some call it a boring monotone, but to me he keeps his cool in a tough situation.

[Gabey5]

the hale fanboys are a loud minority, i enjoy meer's acting.

[ciaweth]

Meer was really great as the Biotic God and all the vorcha. (I mean that--I have no real opinion on maleShep, but Biotic God was comedy gold.)

[Han Shot First]

Gabey5 wrote...

the hale fanboys are a loud minority, i enjoy meer's acting.

There was a poll awhile back on who people preferred as Shepard, and Meer won. Not only did he win, but it wasn't even close.

The perception that a lot of fans don't like Meer's performance isn't really true. Like you said, it is just an extremely vocal minority.

[ladyvader]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

Ya. i don't see why everyone is so down on Meer and up on Hale. I've played both and their about on par.

Meers work is shoddy for a paragon,  He is perfect for the renegade.  Hale is good at both.  That is the difference.  

[The Twilight God]

maxpowers2525 wrote...

I know everyone says how much a better VA jen Hale is And she is talented But i just did a quick start up of a ME2 Fem Shep And Male Shep Side by side and I dont See Why people are hating on Mark Meer I think He does a fine Job Both him and her nail lines and both miss some i just wish people would stop whining about these type of things what do you guys thinkand if you like mark meer let it be Known

Since femsheps make up only 18% of Shepards, I can only assume that it is a loud minority attempting to "justifiy" their choice to play as a female. Why they feel they need to down Meer's voice acting? I don't know. If you like playing as a female that's fine. No need to claim maleshep has a bad voice actor or that you like looking at pixel booty.

[Arppis]

ladyvader wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

Ya. i don't see why everyone is so down on Meer and up on Hale. I've played both and their about on par.

Meers work is shoddy for a paragon,  He is perfect for the renegade.  Hale is good at both.  That is the difference.  

Nope. Works just fine here. Didn't care much for the icequeen performance of Hale renegade thou.

[magnuskn]

Meer is great, so is Hale.

[Ahglock]

Valentia X wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

No range?

Dammit people. If you are going to say that meer has no range, at least listen to all of the people he plays as first.

I find Mark Meer's ability to manipulate his voice from several angles- pitch, how nasal it is, whether it sounds 'old' or 'young'- to be incredible.

I also think he made male Shep sound like two steps from derptard. I have no idea why. but there's so little emotional inflection that he actually manages to sound like a generic NPC, whereas all these other characters have a richness brought around by his voice. It annoys me, because I consider it a waste.

Where as I think it is the perfect amount of emotional inflection for the role he is playing.  He sounds like a life time soldier to me.  There is emotion there, it just isn't being trumpeted.  

[The Twilight God]

Arppis wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

Ya. i don't see why everyone is so down on Meer and up on Hale. I've played both and their about on par.

Meers work is shoddy for a paragon,  He is perfect for the renegade.  Hale is good at both.  That is the difference.  

Nope. Works just fine here. Didn't care much for the icequeen performance of Hale renegade thou.

Hale sounds bored, tired and nonchalant. A female voice just isn't intimidating. Definitely wouldn't be my first choice for a renegade.

[bleetman]

The Twilight God wrote...

A female voice just isn't intimidating.

There are times when I wonder whether I'm going to be able to detach my palm from my forehead without surgical assistance. This is one of those times.

Modifié par bleetman, 27 juillet 2011 - 08:33 .

[Rockworm503]

*sigh
we so need another one of these threads.
Meer vs Hale never gets old NEVER!

I feel like a broken record at this point.
Male shep sounds bored and detached from the events around him.
Fem sounds like a human trying to do the best she can.

[Sundance31us]

Rockworm503 wrote...
Male shep sounds bored and detached from the events around him.
Fem sounds like a human trying to do the best she can.

Female Shepard sounds perpetually pissed-off to me.

[ciaweth]

bleetman wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

A female voice just isn't intimidating.

There are times when I wonder whether I'm going to be able to detach my palm from my forehead without surgical assistance. This is one of those times.

Agreed.  When someone says something like this, I assume they're bluffing, and that they tinkle a little bit whenever a woman talks to them.

[Inspectre]

Gabey5 wrote...

the hale fanboys are a loud minority, i enjoy meer's acting.

Hale actually has more fans than Meer.  Maybe not in Mass Effect, but that's not the only big gig she's done.
Also, zero advertising so far.

The Twilight God wrote...

Why they feel they need to down Meer's voice acting?

Why not?  We don't like him, we say so.  What's the definition of discussion again?

Golden Owl wrote...
sooooo....you have aproblem because there are people with difference preferences to your own?...[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie].....ooookay....[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]

I don't care about their preference.  Hale is higher on the VA food chain, and they don't seem to understand this.

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Think about it this way, hon... The smoking hot man in my icon has been in all the commercials and advertisements for Mass Effect, and the Aryan Princess if your icon took years and years to be approved. Less than twenty percent of Mass Effect players use your Shepard, and the rest use mine.

So, by your logic, male Shepard is in fact the better one because he's used more often. Mark Meer wins.

Less than 15% use your smoking hot monkey, so that would mean femShep is better than Vanderloo.

And my icon is not the new wouldbe default.

KawaiiKatie wrote...
If we use your logic to craft "facts," the "fact" would be that male Shepard is superior.

Sure, but Meer is not.

KawaiiKatie wrote...
Or, we can use my logic, and accept that the Hale has been in more works than Meer, but that doesn't make her "better" or your preference for her a "fact." You can like her and think she's better, but that's just your opinion.

I'm aware.  I'm a preemptive femShep defender, I have to drop bombs when I can.

Though I admit, my arguing skills suck atm.  Be back later.

Modifié par Dragon XIX, 27 juillet 2011 - 10:41 .

[The Twilight God]

bleetman wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

A female voice just isn't intimidating.

There are times when I wonder whether I'm going to be able to detach my palm from my forehead without surgical assistance. This is one of those times.

I'm sorry. That's how I feel and I have a right to feel that way.

[SafetyShattered]

I prefer Meer over Hale anyday. But then again I am a dude, so that's kinda obvious.

[SilentNukee]

Meer does a super great job with other characters. He's amazing. He's just not entirely awesome for Commander Shepard. Although seeing the E3 trailers, he seems to have improved with more emotion in his voice. I liked it.

[CuseGirl]

ciaweth wrote...

bleetman wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

A female voice just isn't intimidating.

There are times when I wonder whether I'm going to be able to detach my palm from my forehead without surgical assistance. This is one of those times.

Agreed.  When someone says something like this, I assume they're bluffing, and that they tinkle a little bit whenever a woman talks to them.

and his name is Twilight god :lol:

[pfhorlorn]

The Twilight God wrote...

A female voice just isn't intimidating.

I resent that. I can be pretty intimidating.

But that's not the point. I like both Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale; they both have their pros and cons as Shep. Then again, with voice acting -- specifically done in the way a lot of shows and games do (i.e. recording one person at a time) -- there are typically slight irregularities in speech and reactions to things, which is unfortunate (though this isn't always the case).

I've played both male and female Shepard and adore both performances. With that said, however, I must say that I much prefer the method of protagonist responses featured in more traditional RPGs like Dragon Age: Origins, Knights of the Old Republic, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, and so on.

But for what we're given (the dialogue wheel), I think both do a pretty good job.

[CrybabyXD]

it all comes down to personal perfernce.. i think meer does a better job in me2 with the speeches during tsm.

[CuseGirl]

koopaonfire wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

A female voice just isn't intimidating.

I resent that. I can be pretty intimidating.

But that's not the point. I like both Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale; they both have their pros and cons as Shep. Then again, with voice acting -- specifically done in the way a lot of shows and games do (i.e. recording one person at a time) -- there are typically slight irregularities in speech and reactions to things, which is unfortunate (though this isn't always the case).

I've played both male and female Shepard and adore both performances. With that said, however, I must say that I much prefer the method of protagonist responses featured in more traditional RPGs like Dragon Age: Origins, Knights of the Old Republic, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, and so on.

But for what we're given (the dialogue wheel), I think both do a pretty good job.

Its because of scheduling that they have one actor at a time or for accuracy?

[Golden Owl]

bleetman wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

A female voice just isn't intimidating.

There are times when I wonder whether I'm going to be able to detach my palm from my forehead without surgical assistance. This is one of those times.

A female voice can be VERY intimidating....an icy cold flat tone from male or female would make you wonder if that person is going to etch your heart out with a rusty spoon with a cold dead look in their eyes...Yes, I would find that tone intimidating from man or woman.......Hale just chose not to go for that ice cold tone.

[Golden Owl]

Dragon XIX wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

the hale fanboys are a loud minority, i enjoy meer's acting.

Hale actually has more fans than Meer.  Maybe not in Mass Effect, but that's not the only big gig she's done.
Also, zero advertising so far.

The Twilight God wrote...

Why they feel they need to down Meer's voice acting?

Why not?  We don't like him, we say so.  What's the definition of discussion again?

Golden Owl wrote...
sooooo....you have aproblem because there are people with difference preferences to your own?...[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie].....ooookay....[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]

I don't care about their preference.  Hale is higher on the VA food chain, and they don't seem to understand this.

KawaiiKatie wrote...

Think about it this way, hon... The smoking hot man in my icon has been in all the commercials and advertisements for Mass Effect, and the Aryan Princess if your icon took years and years to be approved. Less than twenty percent of Mass Effect players use your Shepard, and the rest use mine.

So, by your logic, male Shepard is in fact the better one because he's used more often. Mark Meer wins.

Less than 15% use your smoking hot monkey, so that would mean femShep is better than Vanderloo.

And my icon is not the new wouldbe default.

KawaiiKatie wrote...
If we use your logic to craft "facts," the "fact" would be that male Shepard is superior.

Sure, but Meer is not.

KawaiiKatie wrote...
Or, we can use my logic, and accept that the Hale has been in more works than Meer, but that doesn't make her "better" or your preference for her a "fact." You can like her and think she's better, but that's just your opinion.

I'm aware.  I'm a preemptive femShep defender, I have to drop bombs when I can.

Though I admit, my arguing skills suck atm.  Be back later.

Could be quite a good discussion, if some people weren't so insecure Dragon....you need to attack other peoples preferences, why?