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[MorrigansLove]

Yeah, kudos to you for enjoying mediocrity at its "finest".

I mean, seriously, the whole DLC is boring with no deepness whatsoever. The party banter is great, and there was one fun puzzle(although it felt random and lashed on) but that's about it. Nothing memorable.

Additionally, the DLC is mostly a linear experience, only offering you a few areas that allow mild exploration, in favor of a more guided, narrative based quest, and as the DLC is only two hours long compared to Old World Blues which is seven hours long, it just shows that this DLC is, once again, a rushjob from Bioware.

Modifié par MorrigansLove, 27 juillet 2011 - 12:09 .

[Tyrium]

I adored Legacy. The combat revamp felt fresh, and the story was great, the party banter *love*. I thought it was awesome. And I definitely would love an expansion pack - I think that's the only way we could really explore what happens after endgame.

Also, it took me about 4.5-5 hours - by no means short for what we paid for it!

Modifié par Tyrium, 27 juillet 2011 - 12:13 .

[ReallyRue]

Tyrium wrote...

I adored Legacy. The combat revamp felt fresh, and the story was great, the party banter *love*. I thought it was awesome. And I definitely would love an expansion pack - I think that's the only way we could really explore what happens after endgame.

Also, it took me about 4.5-5 hours - by no means short for what we paid for it!

That's exactly how I felt! The story gets was interesting and got me thinking about DA's lore, and the party banter was just fantastic - especially when taking Carver and Anders .  DA2's ending was really up in the air about what happens with Hawke, and why everyone splits up. I think it would be great to have an expansion that explains things, and continues Cassandra's hunt for Hawke (maybe with a bit more success this time).

[Juggernaut241]

An expansion would be awesome!

[Siven80]

MorrigansLove wrote...

*snip*

Honestly with the amount of hate you post, no one ever expected you to like the DLC anyway.

Personally i liked it. ME2' LotSB was the best DLC i have played, and Legacy is right up there with it in quality.

Combat is a whole lot better than the wavespam of DA2's main game, better placements, waves are used better the few times they are there, more normal rank enemies rather than waves of critter rank and the story and more importantly the lore we get from it is great.

Its what DA2 should have been like. (minus the art style which i still dont like, too animeish for my taste)
Only thing i didnt like is that theres still lots of junk loot about just for the sake of it. Just put cash there instead

5/5.

[llandwynwyn]

Legacy was great. *joining the prayer circle*

[devilsgrin]

legacy just might be the best DLC BioWare has released for a Dragon Age game - since Shale. (Shale remains better, but its Shale, so of course she wins).
I really enjoyed this, the questions it raises, the banter, the Hawke history was nice too.

I'm of two minds about an Expansion.
On the one hand i would probably buy it regardless of the fact i thought DA2 was sub-standard compared to Origins (in most ways - combat is definitely more enjoyable in DA2).
On the other, it may be too late. The best gauge i can think of is for BioWare to FINALLY release a Tool Kit so they can see just how much love there is still for this franchise. The number of Mods for origins is kind of staggering... DA2 would benefit greatly from some player created content.

[atheelogos]

JohnEpler wrote...

lobi wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...
Logic would dictate that the sales of post-release content would be a better indicator of how other post-release content might be received, as opposed to the sales of the base game.

So if more people buy the DLC than bought the game.................................

No.

How DLC sells, however, dictates how much mindshare the game still maintains. Initial sales of the game tell you how many people own the game, but it doesn't tell you how many are still looking for new experiences in that particular framework.

How were day one sales?

[LadyVaJedi]

I loved Legacy and the boss is bytch. But still fun. I hope there is a real expansion pack showing Casandra looking for Hawke.

[0x30A88]

If given time to develop it and it is at the same standard as Legacy.... It could be awesome.

Blacklash93 wrote...
At the very least, I hope we don't have to wait another 4 months for the next DLC...

I would, for it was the early deadline that is partly the blame for the main campaign being considered sub par by many.

Modifié par Gisle Aune, 27 juillet 2011 - 02:55 .

[TEWR]

MorrigansLove wrote...

Yeah, kudos to you for enjoying mediocrity at its "finest".

I mean, seriously, the whole DLC is boring with no deepness whatsoever. The party banter is great, and there was one fun puzzle(although it felt random and lashed on) but that's about it. Nothing memorable.

Define "deepness".

Because although it was slow at first when you first arrive, as soon as I found the codexes that dealt with the Dwarves and the Pestilent One, I was immediately hooked into the DLC because Dwarves are my favorite race in Thedas.

Truthfully, I want to see more puzzles in the games and DLC. Bioware should take some tips from the God of War series' puzzles. 

Additionally, the DLC is mostly a linear experience, only offering you a few areas that allow mild exploration, in favor of a more guided, narrative based quest, and as the DLC is only two hours long compared to Old World Blues which is seven hours long, it just shows that this DLC is, once again, a rushjob from Bioware.

Legacy isn't as linear as previous DLCs in the Dragon Age series. In fact, DLC is meant to be optional. Legacy is a side quest in and of itself. The fact that a side quest has four side quests is amazing. Could it have had more? Sure, but I would think that too many side quests might detract from the story that's trying to be told. Quality over quantity.

We were told how long it was going to be. Anywhere from 2-5 hours long depending on playstyle. So it shouldn't come as a shock at the length of it. Considering Warden's Keep, RtO, and The Stone Prisoner lasted a half hour at most, this is a step up.

The concept of other people having different opinions on something shouldn't be that hard to grasp. I find it amazing. You don't. Trying to say that it is "definitely a mediocre rushjob. And that's a fact" is asenine.

DA2 wasn't amazing. Far from it. It's definitely mediocre. Enjoyable, but mediocre. But this DLC helps to show what DA2 could've been had it been given just another year at least to improve on the parts where the main game failed. Great combat, intriguing story, new lore, decisions that matter (as Luke Barrett said Hawke's choices in the main story of the DLC are significant ones that matter in the future of the series), etc.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 27 juillet 2011 - 03:52 .

[MorrigansLove]

Siven80 wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

*snip*

Honestly with the amount of hate you post, no one ever expected you to like the DLC anyway.

Personally i liked it. ME2' LotSB was the best DLC i have played, and Legacy is right up there with it in quality.

Combat is a whole lot better than the wavespam of DA2's main game, better placements, waves are used better the few times they are there, more normal rank enemies rather than waves of critter rank and the story and more importantly the lore we get from it is great.

Its what DA2 should have been like. (minus the art style which i still dont like, too animeish for my taste)
Only thing i didnt like is that theres still lots of junk loot about just for the sake of it. Just put cash there instead

5/5.

I hardly post at all...

[Boss Fog]

MorrigansLove wrote...

Yeah, kudos to you for enjoying mediocrity at its "finest".

I mean, seriously, the whole DLC is boring with no deepness whatsoever. The party banter is great, and there was one fun puzzle(although it felt random and lashed on) but that's about it. Nothing memorable.

Additionally, the DLC is mostly a linear experience, only offering you a few areas that allow mild exploration, in favor of a more guided, narrative based quest, and as the DLC is only two hours long compared to Old World Blues which is seven hours long, it just shows that this DLC is, once again, a rushjob from Bioware.

Morrigan is a mediorcre character.  Funny how opinions work isn't it?  

[nightlordv]

I wouldn't mind an expansion, especially with Legacy being a solid piece of DLC which actually made Hawke and his family more interesting. They should have had that in the main game on release. Anyway, if it is done right, an expansion to DA2 would be welcomed by me.

[TEWR]

They can fix a few issues with the storyline of DA2 in an expansion. The more nonsensical ones, like an Elven Circle Mage's spectacle for pro-mage people.

Obviously they can't fix everything. But that's really the only one I want to be fixed because it made absolutely zero ****ing sense.

[Deviana]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

Wait. Doesn't every speaking head at Bioware claim DA2 was awesome, and sales were fantastic? Why would they need the fans to buy a half hour $10 DLC to validate their sinking money into a DA 2 expansion?

Half hour? Did you use a noclip and godmode commands or something?  
Judging by reviews, Legacy is very well received. Even if we don't get an expansion, I'm guessing we'll see at least 2 more DLCs before DA3. Personally I really enjoyed Legacy and if Bioware will continue improving in the same way they did with this DLC, I can certainly see their sales figures skyrocketting.

[Robhuzz]

I'd rather see a good expansion that at least finishes part of the Chantry VS Mage war than to have it all in DA3. That way, DA2 won't feel like a total prologue.

[billy the squid]

MorrigansLove wrote...

Yeah, kudos to you for enjoying mediocrity at its "finest".

I mean, seriously, the whole DLC is boring with no deepness whatsoever. The party banter is great, and there was one fun puzzle(although it felt random and lashed on) but that's about it. Nothing memorable.

Additionally, the DLC is mostly a linear experience, only offering you a few areas that allow mild exploration, in favor of a more guided, narrative based quest, and as the DLC is only two hours long compared to Old World Blues which is seven hours long, it just shows that this DLC is, once again, a rushjob from Bioware.

Well, what did you expect?
 
Those who have bought the DLC appear to have liked DA2, as such much of the praise that it gets is obviously going to be from individuals who enjoyed the direction that the IP took and thus concepts which appealed to them are unlikely to have appealed to you if you generally disliked DA2.

If you did buy the DLC, I would ask. Did you really consider that it would have fixed anything but the smaller problems from the base game?  Considering, I thought, DA2 was a rushed mess and that  DLC has never been a viable medium for rectifying anything, but the most superficial of issues, why would, If you disliked DA2, have bought additional content in the first place?

Modifié par billy the squid, 27 juillet 2011 - 06:13 .

[FieryDove]

TelvanniWarlord wrote...

Morrigan is a mediorcre character.  Funny how opinions work isn't it?  

A real expansion would be great vs more dlc. (Not that I didn't enjoy Legacy, I did)

[Sutekh]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

They can fix a few issues with the storyline of DA2 in an expansion. The more nonsensical ones, like an Elven Circle Mage's spectacle for pro-mage people.

Obviously they can't fix everything. But that's really the only one I want to be fixed because it made absolutely zero ****ing sense.

I read "like an Elven Circus Mage's spectacle for pro-mage people", and my mind went to all sorts of awesome places with an Orlesian accent moustached MC, clownspawns, and featuring Orsino the Magnificent in His Daredevil Number of Dazzling Transformation. And all the Templars whining because they're not allowed in.

And yes, an expansion would be nice, possibly as an Act IV, but I'm not holding my breath, though.

[MrProliferation]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Legacy isn't as linear as previous DLCs in the Dragon Age series. In fact, DLC is meant to be optional. Legacy is a side quest in and of itself. The fact that a side quest has four side quests is amazing. Could it have had more? Sure, but I would think that too many side quests might detract from the story that's trying to be told. Quality over quantity.

We were told how long it was going to be. Anywhere from 2-5 hours long depending on playstyle. So it shouldn't come as a shock at the length of it. Considering Warden's Keep, RtO, and The Stone Prisoner lasted a half hour at most, this is a step up.

The concept of other people having different opinions on something shouldn't be that hard to grasp. I find it amazing. You don't. Trying to say that it is "definitely a mediocre rushjob. And that's a fact" is asenine.

DA2 wasn't amazing. Far from it. It's definitely mediocre. Enjoyable, but mediocre. But this DLC helps to show what DA2 could've been had it been given just another year at least to improve on the parts where the main game failed. Great combat, intriguing story, new lore, decisions that matter (as Luke Barrett said Hawke's choices in the main story of the DLC are significant ones that matter in the future of the series), etc.

This+. Legacy showed us all what DA2 could have been. It had the same vast dungeon crawl experience that DAO did, and the combat felt like everything good about DAO and DA2 fused together. It was fast, and it was tactical, especially with how they kept sending the archers after you. They were brutal.

I will admit it took me 4 hours to get through the DLC, but that was because it took me five tries to finish the end boss fight (up to that point was around 2.5). Hard was HARD, even with a level 24 Hawke. The companion interaction was also solid, and the storyline almost felt more epic than all of DA2 did, at least in terms of consequences. What happens with the end boss is potentially world-changing.

As for expansion versus more DLC, as long as we get a few more DLC at least this size I would be fine if there wasn't an expansion. Just give us that THIRD SPECIALIZATION I know we're all craving, and a DLC that takes place after the end of Act 3. I'd call that good enough.

[lillegraa]

an expansion pack would be lovely, yeah.

I do hope we get to see what has happend to Hawke and the Warden, maybe see what impact Hawke's decisions in the main game will have on the mage vs templar conflict and more stuff like that.

Either way, lovely DLC, I'd recommend getting it and I am excited to see what DLC will be announed next

[clumsyninja]

Just finished Legacy. It was fun. Liked the new zone and it reminded me of good ol' dungeon crawling back in DA:O. I revamped my team a bit (using "The Maker's Sigh) from the Black Market before going in, redistributed attribute points and better spent the ability points.

The game play was very smooth, was glad to (not) see wave after wave of useless enemies dropping out from the ceiling, rather they spawned from reasonable locations and the battles seemed more difficult and engaging, rather than being an annoying speed bump as it was in DA2.

At this rate, I'd love to see an expansion pack for DA2, especially if BioWare continues to improve the overall mechanics for DA2 like they did with this DLC.

[Zhen Dil Oloth]

I would love to keep on playing my level 24 Rogue with his new Warden Scout armor.

So I would love to get more DLCs... or better yet... and expansion.