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[FERMi27]

Some guy on the Steam forums posted a very interesting topic regarding the ME universe. It is being updated in a blog fashion. Still several sections to go.
Warning! Extremely huge posts via the link. If you're a TL;DR fan, just pass on - keep your brains intact.

[Sgt Stryker]

Good God, when he said dissertation, he wasn't kidding. This will take some time for me to digest....

[Savber100]

It's a good read.

His theory on Arrival is very intriguing.


Edit: MY GOD... his analysis of the Collectors made me realize a possible chilling twist that has been mentioned in these forums. 

Reapers want to bring humans to the next level of ascension by making them as ONE reaper. Shepard has impressed the Reapers and therefore they offer to humanity the chance to become a reaper with Shepard leading humanity at the cost of every other alien races in the galaxy. 

TIM (whether is indoctrinated or not) sees this as an opportunity but wants to be the head of that group rather than Shep. It's either that or TIM fears that Shepard would interfere with Reapers' plan. 

Modifié par Savber100, 26 juillet 2011 - 08:35 .

[FERMi27]

Yeah, I saw something new for me too. And I thought I knew this game well...

[Sailears]

Thanks for the link, that is a lot of text!

[shepskisaac]

Finished Arrival part, looks good so far. Definitely agree Human-Reaper was not intended to do Sovereign's job. Whatever the purpose to build it was (maybe just a standard part of the reproduction cycle) it was independent from the Reapers' planned arrival through the Alpha Relay. Alpha Relay was the plan B, not replacing Sovereign with another Reaper.

[nhsk]

Human reaper, while not fully functional could also serve as a gateway for the Reapers to understand humanity and figure out likely contingency plans and how to best eradicate us.

[sp0ck 06]

Very interesting read. Excellent analysis of Arrival and the Collectors in relation to the larger ME story line.

[Bad King]

Haven't started reading yet, but he's certainly picked interesting (and very highly debated topics) to write about. I'll be back in an hour.

[shepskisaac]

nhsk wrote...

Human reaper, while not fully functional could also serve as a gateway for the Reapers to understand humanity and figure out likely contingency plans and how to best eradicate us.

The point is, the Reapers succeed if the timer runs out in Arrival no matter if the Human-Reaper is not finished yet, or already destroyed. So it doesn't seem they needed it to win after arriving already.

[HTTP 404]

I like disserts. yum

[Praetor Knight]

Nice, it's neat seeing others contextualizing what we know so far in the story, through both games.

It's been bookmarked!

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 26 juillet 2011 - 08:46 .

[nhsk]

IsaacShep wrote...

The point is, the Reapers succeed if the timer runs out in Arrival no matter if the Human-Reaper is not finished yet, or already destroyed. So it doesn't seem they needed it to win after arriving already.

It took them at least a hundred years to eradicate the Protheans. Yes they win no matter what, but by understanding human psyche they can better figure us out, where would we try to run? Where can we survive? What would we do to survive? How should we proceed with our sleeper agents?

Remember, humanity is new on the galactic scene while Sovereign have gathered enough info on all the other species over the last couple of millenia.

And I doubt the Reapers actually "enjoy" the Reaping part, they just do it for another reason than "lulz" so I think they would be interested in knowing their adversaries.

Modifié par nhsk, 26 juillet 2011 - 08:48 .

[Il Divo]

Guys, we gotta step up our game. If the Steam forums are capable of putting out a post like this, then ME's home forums should definitely be able to.

[Savber100]

nhsk wrote...

Human reaper, while not fully functional could also serve as a gateway for the Reapers to understand humanity and figure out likely contingency plans and how to best eradicate us.

Hm.. Not so sure about eradicating per se. 


The Reapers were probably experimenting with the possibility of a human reaper to learn more about them and to study them to see if it's possible to allow the human race to take their place among the Reapers. Shepard proved to them that humans are ready to become much more. In fact, maybe that human reaper shell was meant for Shepard, their worthy opponent, hence why the Reapers want Shepard's body so much.  

Btw, do we know if the Reapers just choose ONE race per cycle to become a reaper? How do Reapers start in deciding which race is worthy to become one? 

Also has their ever been an explanation in why Reaper's just targeted humans in ME2? We assume it was because they saw them as a threat but is it possible that it's because they have decided that humanity is more worthy than others and that they were "honored" to be part of a new reaper creation?  

[Bad King]

Il Divo wrote...

Guys, we gotta step up our game. If the Steam forums are capable of putting out a post like this, then ME's home forums should definitely be able to.

Ever read one of Dean the Young's topics?

[VStar]

I think his theory regarding the Protheans having influenced the development of the younger races is definitely something that could pop up in ME3 and prove to be mostly true. It's a solid idea and is well-supported by what is currently known.

[Wolf_in_the_Meadow]

It's a nice read, but but they make a number of assumptions based on very loose evidence - the majority of the most interesting points, I thought were fairly obvious if you stopped and thought about it.

There are things they don't seem to have considered, but they may be covered later.

Overall, nothing I've not either thought myself or already seen here.

[Eurhetemec]

Bad King wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Guys, we gotta step up our game. If the Steam forums are capable of putting out a post like this, then ME's home forums should definitely be able to.

Ever read one of Dean the Young's topics?

No insult to Dean, but this is a little more I dunno, open-minded and thoughtful than Dean's threads. Dean gets an idea about a topic, and then no-one is allowed to contradict him, because no matter how well-made their points are, he will just shout them down, and he will keep shouting them down until they get bored and shut up. He's not a poster really interested in discussion, just shouting his viewpoint over and over. Sometimes that viewpoint has a lot of lore behind it, but sometimes it's just an opinion, and I don't think I've ever seen him own up to that.

[SandTrout]

It is an interesting read, mainly because it consolidates a lot of the piecemeal theories into one consolidated narrative.

Honestly, there isn't much new data, just new connections made between them.

Overall, I approve.

[KingNothing125]

The Prothean Legacy section is mind-blowing. I don't know if guys at BioWare are like "wow this guy nailed us good" or are like "interesting, but you're way off"... but it's a very compelling theory.

The Arrival section is like a "no duh" section to me. I never thought the human reaper was supposed to be a replacement for Sovereign. I assumed the Reapers started FTL'ing to the Alpha Relay right after Sovereign failed in ME1. The Collectors are just putting the human reaper together as part of the normal "reaping" process.

[Avilia]

Thanks for the link

[Savber100]

KingNothing125 wrote...

The Prothean Legacy section is mind-blowing. I don't know if guys at BioWare are like "wow this guy nailed us good" or are like "interesting, but you're way off"... but it's a very compelling theory.

The Arrival section is like a "no duh" section to me. I never thought the human reaper was supposed to be a replacement for Sovereign. I assumed the Reapers started FTL'ing to the Alpha Relay right after Sovereign failed in ME1. The Collectors are just putting the human reaper together as part of the normal "reaping" process.

Tell that to smudboy. 

[AdmiralCheez]

Somebody get that author a beer.

[legion999]

Good read especially the Prothean legacy part.