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[Spartanburger]

Fixers0 wrote...

And all you show is a kinetic barries who's only purpose is to deflect mass acclerated slugs.

Next.

Not once during the game is it mentioned that it is a 'kinetic barrier.'

And you should look at what a Kinetic barrier is. It stops high-velocity physical objects.

Anyone with a high-school deploma can tell you that air is a physical object. It has mass. 
Remove the velocity-activation and you have a vacuum seal.
It wouldn't last long due to the increased energy draw, but it would be there long enough to ensure temproary survival.

besides, if they were just kinetic barriors, why would there be one inside the ship?

[Fixers0]

Alocormin wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Spartanburger wrote...

(Snip)

And all you show is a kinetic barries who's only purpose is to deflect mass acclerated slugs.

Next.

Those have a similar look to kinetic barriers, but they are not appropriately placed for them.  They are placed with the obvious intention of keeping atmosphere available to some extent in the cockpit.

Source?

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...

And all you show is a kinetic barries who's only purpose is to deflect mass acclerated slugs.

Next.

Or not.

Since it's a mass effect field, it can do more than so. Like preventing oxygen from leaking out if the density of the field is high enough.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 27 juillet 2011 - 08:00 .

[Fixers0]

Spartanburger wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

And all you show is a kinetic barries who's only purpose is to deflect mass acclerated slugs.

Next.

Not once during the game is it mentioned that it is a 'kinetic barrier.'

And you should look at what a Kinetic barrier is. It stops high-velocity physical objects.

Anyone with a high-school deploma can tell you that air is a physical object. It has mass. 
Remove the velocity-activation and you have a vacuum seal.
It wouldn't last long due to the increased energy draw, but it would be there long enough to ensure temproary survival.

besides, if they were just kinetic barriors, why would there be one inside the ship?

So what is it, them Mass Effect fields are supposed to be Invisible, so my best guess is:

Bioware is being lazy, and just thought that up as quick cover.

[TuringPoint]

Fixers0 wrote...

Alocormin wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Spartanburger wrote...

(Snip)

And all you show is a kinetic barries who's only purpose is to deflect mass acclerated slugs.

Next.

Those have a similar look to kinetic barriers, but they are not appropriately placed for them.  They are placed with the obvious intention of keeping atmosphere available to some extent in the cockpit.

Source?

Observation and logic, based on what is shown in the game.

[TuringPoint]

Fixers0 wrote...


Bioware is being lazy, and just thought that up as quick cover.

Source?

[Sgt Stryker]

Fixers0 wrote...

Kinetic barriers = Shields,

Try again.

Also  were is the source source that Citadel uses Mass Effect fields.

You're really trying my patience, young man. Kinetic barriers are just one application of mass effect fields; they are NOT the only application. The emergency fields we saw on the SR1 (and later on the SR2 after the Suicide Mission) are not kinetic barriers. They are identical to the fields used on the Citadel dock.

You wanted proof? Here it is.

[Fixers0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

And all you show is a kinetic barries who's only purpose is to deflect mass acclerated slugs.

Next.

Or not.

Since it's a mass effect field, it can do more than so. Like preventing oxygen from leaking out if the density is high enough.

How would you know that?

Mass Effect fields are supposed to be invisible.

[Spartanburger]

Fixers0 wrote...
So what is it, them Mass Effect fields are supposed to be Invisible, so my best guess is:

Bioware is being lazy, and just thought that up as quick cover.

If ME fileds are supposed to be invisible, then why aren't biotics invisible? All they are is just jumbles of controled and shaped Mass Effect fields, and the glow bright blue.

And where was it mentioned that they're supposed to be invisible?

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...

So what is it, them Mass Effect fields are supposed to be Invisible, so my best guess is:

Bioware is being lazy, and just thought that up as quick cover.

Well, if they were invisible, we, as the players wouldn't know that they're there or if they're activated or not. 

Derp.

[Fixers0]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Kinetic barriers = Shields,

Try again.

Also  were is the source source that Citadel uses Mass Effect fields.

You're really trying my patience, young man. Kinetic barriers are just one application of mass effect fields; they are NOT the only application. The emergency fields we saw on the SR1 (and later on the SR2 after the Suicide Mission) are not kinetic barriers. They are identical to the fields used on the Citadel dock.

You wanted proof? Here it is.

There is nothing to see on the citadel dock, just a white security  border, because mass effect fields are invisible. 

[Someone With Mass]

Sometimes, they have to bend the rules to make it more visible and graspable.

[Sgt Stryker]

Mass effect fields are not invisible. All applications of mass effect technology have that iconic blue glow effect.

By the way, are you suggesting that there is no mass effect field on the Citadel dock? If that's the case, what's keeping the C-Sec crew from suffocating or getting blown out into space?

On another note, you didn't answer my previous question. Do you intend to purchase ME3?

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 27 juillet 2011 - 08:08 .

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...

There is nothing to see on the citadel dock, just a white security  border, because mass effect fields are invisible. 

Guess what keeps the air from being sucked out into space...

[TuringPoint]

Mass effect fields that are strong enough apparently distort light waves in a wavy effect. Powers of observation, good man! Observation!

It is worth noting that the Earth's atmosphere filters light and heat, and its magnetic field can create visually identifiable phenomenon. So, unless you're one of those crazies who believes there was no moon landing, or even that we haven't gone into space, and that perhaps the Earth really IS flat, well. Then we couldn't help you.

It may well be that the Citadel uses more advanced, or simply a larger, better powered or more sophisticated version of the same technology used to create emergency fields on the Normandy.

Modifié par Alocormin, 27 juillet 2011 - 08:09 .

[Fixers0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

So what is it, them Mass Effect fields are supposed to be Invisible, so my best guess is:

Bioware is being lazy, and just thought that up as quick cover.

Well, if they were invisible, we, as the players wouldn't know that they're there or if they're activated or not. 

Derp.

True most people are stupid to understand basic lore,

Also what do you think about the kinetic barrier on Kopis? or that thing that donovan hock uses? those are all called kinetic barriers, EDI even confirms that the Normandy is protected by Kinetic barriers while going through debris field. 

[Spartanburger]

Light = Energy
Energy = Mass
Mass Effect Fields affect mass

Therefore, it is assumable that Mass Effect Fields affect light/energy in some way, shape, or form.

[Sgt Stryker]

That's simple enough. Kinetic barriers are a subset of mass effect fields. All kinetic barriers are mass effect fields, but not all mass effect fields are kinetic barriers. Please don't make me draw a Venn diagram, though.

[TuringPoint]

Fixers0 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

So what is it, them Mass Effect fields are supposed to be Invisible, so my best guess is:

Bioware is being lazy, and just thought that up as quick cover.

Well, if they were invisible, we, as the players wouldn't know that they're there or if they're activated or not. 

Derp.

True most people are stupid to understand basic lore,

Also what do you think about the kinetic barrier on Kopis? or that thing that donovan hock uses? those are all called kinetic barriers, EDI even confirms that the Normandy is protected by Kinetic barriers while going through debris field. 

... And those 'kinetic barriers' as you call them keep more out than fast moving projectiles.

It's worth noting that some mass effect fields create kinetic barriers, some create mass distortions around a given object, say a ship, that allows space travel, and FTL transit.

Modifié par Alocormin, 27 juillet 2011 - 08:11 .

[Fixers0]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Mass effect fields are not invisible. All applications of mass effect technology have that iconic blue glow effect.

By the way, are you suggesting that there is no mass effect field on the Citadel dock? If that's the case, what's keeping the C-Sec crew from suffocating or getting blown out into space?

On another note, you didn't answer my previous question. Do you intend to purchase ME3?

Exept the ones around the X3M shuttles and the Citadel, i didn't see anything blue there.

[Fixers0]

Alocormin wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

So what is it, them Mass Effect fields are supposed to be Invisible, so my best guess is:

Bioware is being lazy, and just thought that up as quick cover.

Well, if they were invisible, we, as the players wouldn't know that they're there or if they're activated or not. 

Derp.

True most people are stupid to understand basic lore,

Also what do you think about the kinetic barrier on Kopis? or that thing that donovan hock uses? those are all called kinetic barriers, EDI even confirms that the Normandy is protected by Kinetic barriers while going through debris field. 

... And those 'kinetic barriers' as you call them keep more out than fast moving projectiles.

No

Guess what .......

Retcon

Go to kopis and listen to the hammerhead VI

[Sgt Stryker]

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Mass effect fields are not invisible. All applications of mass effect technology have that iconic blue glow effect.

By the way, are you suggesting that there is no mass effect field on the Citadel dock? If that's the case, what's keeping the C-Sec crew from suffocating or getting blown out into space?

On another note, you didn't answer my previous question. Do you intend to purchase ME3?

Exept the ones around the X3M shuttles and the Citadel, i didn't see anything blue there.

That did not answer any of my questions to you.

[TuringPoint]

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Mass effect fields are not invisible. All applications of mass effect technology have that iconic blue glow effect.

By the way, are you suggesting that there is no mass effect field on the Citadel dock? If that's the case, what's keeping the C-Sec crew from suffocating or getting blown out into space?

On another note, you didn't answer my previous question. Do you intend to purchase ME3?

Exept the ones around the X3M shuttles and the Citadel, i didn't see anything blue there.

The Citadel wasn't built using current technology, although all current tech in the ME universe is based on it.  Also, the fields that apparently keep atmosphere in the cockpit of the Normandy when it is half destroyed are a slightly different color from other kinetic barriers, such as the one around a soldier in combat.

[Fixers0]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Mass effect fields are not invisible. All applications of mass effect technology have that iconic blue glow effect.

By the way, are you suggesting that there is no mass effect field on the Citadel dock? If that's the case, what's keeping the C-Sec crew from suffocating or getting blown out into space?

On another note, you didn't answer my previous question. Do you intend to purchase ME3?

Exept the ones around the X3M shuttles and the Citadel, i didn't see anything blue there.

That did not answer any of my questions to you.

Mass Effect fields are not blue.

Mass Effect fields are invisible.

And i'm not going to spend money on Mass Effect 3 if that is what you asked.

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...

True most people are stupid to understand basic lore,

Also what do you think about the kinetic barrier on Kopis? or that thing that donovan hock uses? those are all called kinetic barriers, EDI even confirms that the Normandy is protected by Kinetic barriers while going through debris field. 

It has nothing to do with being too stupid to understand the lore (that word is starting to become the new "retcon", overused by people that think they know what it means, but don't), it's more about convenience. 

So step down from your high horse. You're not above anyone.