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[Fixers0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

True most people are stupid to understand basic lore,

Also what do you think about the kinetic barrier on Kopis? or that thing that donovan hock uses? those are all called kinetic barriers, EDI even confirms that the Normandy is protected by Kinetic barriers while going through debris field. 

It has nothing to do with being too stupid to understand the lore (that word is starting to become the new "retcon", overused by people that think they know what it means, but don't), it's more about convenience. 

So step down from your high horse. You're not above anyone.

Convience, like putting up purple or blue glowing shieldsat every moment when the designers are out of options?

[Sgt Stryker]

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Mass effect fields are not invisible. All applications of mass effect technology have that iconic blue glow effect.

By the way, are you suggesting that there is no mass effect field on the Citadel dock? If that's the case, what's keeping the C-Sec crew from suffocating or getting blown out into space?

On another note, you didn't answer my previous question. Do you intend to purchase ME3?

Exept the ones around the X3M shuttles and the Citadel, i didn't see anything blue there.

That did not answer any of my questions to you.

Mass Effect fields are not blue.

Mass Effect fields are invisible.

And i'm not going to spend money on Mass Effect 3 if that is what you asked.

But do you agree that mass effect fields can be used to separate vacuum from atmosphere, as shown in that Citadel docking clip I showed you? Also, please explain why biotic powers are visible and have a blue color associated with them.

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 27 juillet 2011 - 08:17 .

[Spartanburger]

Fixers0 wrote...


Mass Effect fields are not blue.

Mass Effect fields are invisible.

You have yet to provide any proof on that matter.
Come back when you have actual evidence.

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...

No

Guess what .......

Retcon

Go to kopis and listen to the hammerhead VI

Stop raping the definition of a word you clearly have no idea of what it means.

Guess what kinetic barriers are. Mass effect fields. Are mass effect fields adjustable? Yes. Thus, kinetic barriers are adjustable. It's what the shield upgrade for the Normandy in ME2 is. Adjusted kinetic barriers.

Taa-daa. Not that hard to think without the Codex. 

[Fixers0]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Mass effect fields are not invisible. All applications of mass effect technology have that iconic blue glow effect.

By the way, are you suggesting that there is no mass effect field on the Citadel dock? If that's the case, what's keeping the C-Sec crew from suffocating or getting blown out into space?

On another note, you didn't answer my previous question. Do you intend to purchase ME3?

Exept the ones around the X3M shuttles and the Citadel, i didn't see anything blue there.

That did not answer any of my questions to you.

Mass Effect fields are not blue.

Mass Effect fields are invisible.

And i'm not going to spend money on Mass Effect 3 if that is what you asked.

But do you agree that mass effect fields can be used to separate vacuum from atmosphere, as shown in that Citadel docking clip I showed you?

If you think it's a Mass Effect field, then okay, i'm not going to say yes or  no because you know more then me. 

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...

Convience, like putting up purple or blue glowing shieldsat every moment when the designers are out of options?

Good lord, you are so pessimistic.

It's just a visual cue, in case if you failed to understand that. It has nothing to do with the designers being out of options.

Enough of this crap.

[Fixers0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

No

Guess what .......

Retcon

Go to kopis and listen to the hammerhead VI

Stop raping the definition of a word you clearly have no idea of what it means.

Guess what kinetic barriers are. Mass effect fields. Are mass effect fields adjustable? Yes. Thus, kinetic barriers are adjustable. It's what the shield upgrade for the Normandy in ME2 is. Adjusted kinetic barriers.

Taa-daa. Not that hard to think without the Codex. 

Here you go,

Kinetic Barriers ("Shields")
Kinetic barriers, commonly called shields, provide protection against most mass accelerator weapons. Whether on starships or a soldier's suit of armor, the basic principle remains the same.
Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields projected from tiny emitters. These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away their chair.

The shielding afforded by kinetic barriers does not protect against extremes of temperature, toxins, or radiation.

This is the definition of a Kinetic barrier,  does it says they are adjustable no, Should Kinetic barriers protect against radiation or store and athmosphere, no, otherwise it would't be a kinetic barrier anymore. 

Modifié par Fixers0, 27 juillet 2011 - 08:24 .

[Sgt Stryker]

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Mass effect fields are not invisible. All applications of mass effect technology have that iconic blue glow effect.

By the way, are you suggesting that there is no mass effect field on the Citadel dock? If that's the case, what's keeping the C-Sec crew from suffocating or getting blown out into space?

On another note, you didn't answer my previous question. Do you intend to purchase ME3?

Exept the ones around the X3M shuttles and the Citadel, i didn't see anything blue there.

That did not answer any of my questions to you.

Mass Effect fields are not blue.

Mass Effect fields are invisible.

And i'm not going to spend money on Mass Effect 3 if that is what you asked.

But do you agree that mass effect fields can be used to separate vacuum from atmosphere, as shown in that Citadel docking clip I showed you?

If you think it's a Mass Effect field, then okay, i'm not going to say yes or  no because you know more then me. 

I had to read that a couple of times. It sounds almost like you said something that makes sense! I don't just think that it's a mass effect field - I know that it's a ME field. Similar technology can be used on the Normandy SR1 and SR2 in case of a hull breach.

EDIT: Who says kinetic barriers cannot be adjusted? Why not lower the velocity threshold so that slower-moving masses - for example air molecules - can get repelled by it? Sure, that wouldn't be practical for a personal hardsuit (you would not be able to breath, eat, drink, or walk) but it would be perfect for a force field used by, say, a spaceship that just experienced a hull breach. Now where have we seen something like that before, children?

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 27 juillet 2011 - 08:27 .

[Fixers0]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

I had to read that a couple of times. It sounds almost like you said something that makes sense! I don't just think that it's a mass effect field - I know that it's a ME field. Similar technology can be used on the Normandy SR1 and SR2 in case of a hull breach.

Great, how do you know that , did somebody told you?

[Someone With Mass]

Fixers0 wrote...
This is the definition of a Kinetic barrier,  does it says they are adjustable no, Should Kinetic barriers protect against radiation or store and athmosphere, no, otherwise it would't be a kinetic barrier anymore.

Wow. You are so tied to having sources, that this isn't a discussion anymore. It's a pissing contest.

Good day.

[atheelogos]

Join with the Reaper? Become Machine Gods that don't age. I wouldn't mind really : ) I've heard worse ideas.

[sponge56]

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

I had to read that a couple of times. It sounds almost like you said something that makes sense! I don't just think that it's a mass effect field - I know that it's a ME field. Similar technology can be used on the Normandy SR1 and SR2 in case of a hull breach.

Great, how do you know that , did somebody told you?

Fixer, you do seem to be very present in certain threads at the moment, and while your base ideas may or may not have some credit, the nitpicking is doing you no favours- you are coming across as either a troll or very stupid, whether or not you are either of those things (im not saying you are a troll or indeed very stupid)

[Fixers0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...
This is the definition of a Kinetic barrier,  does it says they are adjustable no, Should Kinetic barriers protect against radiation or store and athmosphere, no, otherwise it would't be a kinetic barrier anymore.

Wow. You are so tied to having sources, that this isn't a discussion anymore. It's a pissing contest.

Good day.

Fine

Can we now again discuss why trying to defend earth is dumbest thing the Alliance fleet can do.

[PsychoWARD23]

There's obviously going to be a twist, and, uhhh....... it's a videogame?

[Sgt Stryker]

Fixers0 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

I had to read that a couple of times. It sounds almost like you said something that makes sense! I don't just think that it's a mass effect field - I know that it's a ME field. Similar technology can be used on the Normandy SR1 and SR2 in case of a hull breach.

Great, how do you know that , did somebody told you?

It was a logical conclusion that I brought myself to, after seeing in-game cutscenes and reading about the lore. Nothing else in the lore contradicts this, so I'm confident that my interpretation is the correct one.

[Spartanburger]

Fixers0 wrote...

Here you go,

Kinetic Barriers ("Shields")
Kinetic barriers, commonly called shields, provide protection against most mass accelerator weapons. Whether on starships or a soldier's suit of armor, the basic principle remains the same.
Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields projected from tiny emitters. These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away their chair.

The shielding afforded by kinetic barriers does not protect against extremes of temperature, toxins, or radiation.

This is the definition of a Kinetic barrier,  does it says they are adjustable no, Should Kinetic barriers protect against radiation or store and athmosphere, no, otherwise it would't be a kinetic barrier anymore. 

Oh wow. just how stupid are you?

Let me just repeat my favorite part of that codex entry.

Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields projected from tiny emitters.

Se it there?
No?
Here, take a closer look:

Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields

Kinetic Barriers are Mass Effect fields.


Cave Johnson, we're done here.

[Fixers0]

Spartanburger wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Here you go,

Kinetic Barriers ("Shields")
Kinetic barriers, commonly called shields, provide protection against most mass accelerator weapons. Whether on starships or a soldier's suit of armor, the basic principle remains the same.
Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields projected from tiny emitters. These shields safely deflect small objects traveling at rapid velocities. This affords protection from bullets and other dangerous projectiles, but still allows the user to sit down without knocking away their chair.

The shielding afforded by kinetic barriers does not protect against extremes of temperature, toxins, or radiation.

This is the definition of a Kinetic barrier,  does it says they are adjustable no, Should Kinetic barriers protect against radiation or store and athmosphere, no, otherwise it would't be a kinetic barrier anymore. 

Oh wow. just how stupid are you?

Let me just repeat my favorite part of that codex entry.

Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields projected from tiny emitters.

Se it there?
No?
Here, take a closer look:

Kinetic barriers are repulsive mass effect fields

Kinetic Barriers are Mass Effect fields.


Cave Johnson, we're done here.

So what, are you suggesting that the Codex contradicts it's self?

It still doesn't make them protect against Radiation, heat  and toxins.

 

[Sgt Stryker]

Who said anything about radiation, heat and toxins? I thought we were discussing the opening cutscene in ME2... on a thread about Reapers and Earth....

Oy vey. (I would like to take this time now to apologize to Saphra Deden for stealing his thread)

[Spartanburger]

Fixers0 wrote...
So what, are you suggesting that the Codex contradicts it's self?

No. I'm suggesting that all your complaints about Kinetic Barriers not being Mass effect fields are completely stupid and that you just proved yourself wrong by quoting that.

Fixers0 wrote...

It still doesn't make them protect against Radiation, heat  and toxins.

It's a filed that prevents any object with mass from traveling across it. Toxins would be blocked.

Heat and Radiation are forms of energy, just like light. The Mass Effect field would not be able to block these unless it was adjusted to have a higher density.

[Fixers0]

Spartanburger wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...
So what, are you suggesting that the Codex contradicts it's self?

No. I'm suggesting that all your complaints about Kinetic Barriers not being Mass effect fields are completely stupid and that you just proved yourself wrong by quoting that.

Fixers0 wrote...

It still doesn't make them protect against Radiation, heat  and toxins.

It's a filed that prevents any object with mass from traveling across it. Toxins would be blocked.

Heat and Radiation are forms of energy, just like light. The Mass Effect field would not be able to block these unless it was adjusted to have a higher density.

Uhmm.

The shielding afforded by kinetic barriers does not protect against extremes of temperature, toxins, or radiation.

[Someone With Mass]

[quote]Fixers0 wrote...

The shielding afforded by kinetic barriers does not protect against extremes of temperature, toxins, or radiation.
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Adjustable, as in changing the way it behaves or how high density it has. It still won't stop radiation and such.

Jeez, teaching my nephew trigonometry would've been easier than this.

[Spartanburger]

Extremes, Fixers0, extremes.

If I was surrounded by 3 feet of lead, I still wouldn't be able to survive a direct hit of a gamma ray burst, an extreme event of radiation.

ME fields wouldn't prevent dying from extreme radiation or temperature.
I don't see how extremes of toxins could get through, as those are objects with Mass, but then again, toxin can refer to many things.

[Fixers0]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

The shielding afforded by kinetic barriers does not protect against extremes of temperature, toxins, or radiation.

Adjustable, as in changing the way it behaves or how high density it has. It still won't stop radiation and such.

Jeez, teaching my nephew trigonometry would've been easier than this.

And you make statment out of what?

If any object in the Mass Effect universe is called A kinetic barrier, I look up the codex an see if that  it's description match the effect that is shown in game, if so then everything is okay, if not then it in inconsistent with the Codex. 

Modifié par Fixers0, 27 juillet 2011 - 08:54 .

[Fixers0]

Spartanburger wrote...

Extremes, Fixers0, extremes.

If I was surrounded by 3 feet of lead, I still wouldn't be able to survive a direct hit of a gamma ray burst, an extreme event of radiation.

ME fields wouldn't prevent dying from extreme radiation or temperature.
I don't see how extremes of toxins could get through, as those are objects with Mass, but then again, toxin can refer to many things.

Really, the Codex explicitly states that Kinetic barriers do not protect against toxins,deal with it.