2463 réponses à ce sujet

[atheelogos]

DDG3595 wrote...

Not only can the Reapers be defeated my Soldier-class Shepard will pop caps in all of their metallic a**es.

hmmm not sure your bullets can penatrate their shields.

[Someone With Mass]

atheelogos wrote...

DDG3595 wrote...

Not only can the Reapers be defeated my Soldier-class Shepard will pop caps in all of their metallic a**es.

hmmm not sure your bullets can penatrate their shields.

Or their armor.

[Cookieie]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Look at this...
A human Saren...

This.

[SandTrout]

Remained, or became habitable? It suggests the animal life eventually adapted with many of them developing biotic tendencies. Evolution, which you claim to know so much about, takes millions of years. In time Eingana recovered. I know that.

I EVEN SAID AS MUCH MUTLIPE TIMES IN THIS THREAD!

If there was a wave of EXTINCTIONS, then there was life there, before, and the fact that there is STILL LIFE, means that the planet is still habitable.

I never said it would, you idiot.

**** you very much. You implied it by stating that our population would be so horrendously devastated that our viability as a species would be reduced to impractical levels. In fact, the premise that we will become extinct is your justification for surrendering to the Reapers.

You know what, though? I'm done here. Everyone has already figured out that you're acting like an unreasoning zealot, and you have simply reverted to name calling in order to ignore evidence.

[dahoughtonuk]

SandTrout wrote...

Remained, or became habitable? It suggests the animal life eventually adapted with many of them developing biotic tendencies. Evolution, which you claim to know so much about, takes millions of years. In time Eingana recovered. I know that.

I EVEN SAID AS MUCH MUTLIPE TIMES IN THIS THREAD!

If there was a wave of EXTINCTIONS, then there was life there, before, and the fact that there is STILL LIFE, means that the planet is still habitable.

I never said it would, you idiot.

**** you very much. You implied it by stating that our population would be so horrendously devastated that our viability as a species would be reduced to impractical levels. In fact, the premise that we will become extinct is your justification for surrendering to the Reapers.

You know what, though? I'm done here. Everyone has already figured out that you're acting like an unreasoning zealot, and you have simply reverted to name calling in order to ignore evidence.

Theoritically with what we know about the Reapers and Humanity Saphra has a point. He'd be less annoying if he said in universe this is likely how to look at it. Yes life would carry on, but humanity likely wouldn't. We know that the Reaper's don;t want to abandon Earth. Spawning ground. It's important to make sure they do.

Now if they didn;t indoctrinate you, and d/or drive you insane, I would plump for Reaperhood. However it's still efefctively death, so I'd hopefully fight,

[Sisterofshane]

@ Sandtrout, don't feel bad. We're all frustrated. Saphra picks and chooses which specific sentences in a post to argue against, completely ignoring the facts and the arguments that have been presented, and then hopes that by calling us dumb, that it would suddenly negate the facts of this debate. The evidence is within that part you first quoted.

If she claims that evolution takes millions of years, then by her own admission there would be no way that Eingana was at any point uninhabitable, because according to the codex, the contamination occurred only thousands of years ago. Ergo, there was no way that Eingana could have ever become and uninhabitable wasteland incapable of supporting life, and being as that is her only piece of evidence as to why she believes Earth would become uninhabitable, then she just admitted that her own evidence is flawed.

But, Saphra will probably back track on this too. Probably try to claim she never said that even though we quoted it.


EDIT: And she will probably insult the size of my brain.

Modifié par Sisterofshane, 29 juillet 2011 - 08:12 .

[dragonavicious]

Saphra Deden wrote...

dragonavicious wrote...

Oh my gosh. You do realize that part of what makes an argument valid is the willingness to listen to the opposite argument?

You know what else makes an argument valid? Accepting all available information, even when it contradicts your views.

I've done just that. My opposition (on the eezo matter) hasn't.

I only accept opinions that are well thought-out and supported.

I have read many of your oppositions arguments and they all appear very well thought out. This just goes back to the whole 'you-aren't-listening-to-anyone" thing. You assume they are all terrible because you aren't paying attention. I'm not saying that you can't disagree, but you need to understand and listen to your opposition.

dragonavicious wrote...

Although I gotta say, if anyone has a chance against the Reapers it would have to be you. Stubbornness and refusing to admit defeat are probably the top two qualities necessary to survive such tough conditions and bring down such monsters. .

Saphra Deden wrote...

How ironic.

It is ironic because you want to give up and join them. How peculiar that you could be well equipped to defeat them but your defeatest attitude toward the Reapers mean you'll be more willing to surrender and die.

[Sisterofshane]

dragonavicious wrote...

Although I gotta say, if anyone has a chance against the Reapers it would have to be you. Stubbornness and refusing to admit defeat are probably the top two qualities necessary to survive such tough conditions and bring down such monsters. .

Saphra Deden wrote...

How ironic.

It is ironic because you want to give up and join them. How peculiar that you could be well equipped to defeat them but your defeatest attitude toward the Reapers mean you'll be more willing to surrender and die.

I don't remember reading this earlier (although I'll be the first to admit that I was skimming through most of these pages around one in the morning), but I have to thouroughly disagree with this entire statement.

Humans like Saphra are the very thing that the Reapers want -- someone convinced to the point of insanity that there can be no other way, no other possibilty.  She's definitely not the person I want watching my back while I'm fighting for my life.

EDIT:  This forum really needs a preview button

Modifié par Sisterofshane, 29 juillet 2011 - 11:17 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Saphra"That's it man,game over,GAME OVER!"

[Praetor Knight]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

I have already said how we can beat the Reapers, without the nasty Eezo contamination that Saphra is convinced will bring about the end of the world, with dogs and cats living together in unmarried sin.

Bogsnot1 wrote...
We can beat the Reapers. IFF mission has already shown us we can easily destroy the Reaper Mass Effect core.
The combined military forces of the galaxy would easily be able to provide at least 5 strike teams per Reaper. Give each strike team an M-490 Blackstorm.
Destroy Mass Effect core, launch black hole at remains to suck up Eezo dust.

Both problems solved. Go home and crack open the beers.

Out in space, the Combat cockroaches (Kodiaks) should work nicely, with Fighter and Interceptor screening wings as decoys to draw away attention from the shuttles.

I'd also bring along at least one Cain, with stores of thermite or some sorta plasma to burn or cut through bulkheads and walls inside the damn things.

And I think having the troopers use sealed armor that would have thrusters on them for any potential zero-g work outside and inside the Reapers would also be prudent.

It maybe be a one-way trip for most, but we need to try right? 

[DDG4005]

atheelogos wrote...

DDG3595 wrote...

Not only can the Reapers be defeated my Soldier-class Shepard will pop caps in all of their metallic a**es.

hmmm not sure your bullets can penatrate their shields.

Shepard will find a way to disable the Reapers' shields and expose their armor.  That's when the bullets start flying.

[DDG4005]

Someone With Mass wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

DDG3595 wrote...

Not only can the Reapers be defeated my Soldier-class Shepard will pop caps in all of their metallic a**es.

hmmm not sure your bullets can penatrate their shields.

Or their armor.

Anything that is made can be unmade.  The Reapers were made somehow somewhere; thus they can be unmade.

Modifié par DDG3595, 30 juillet 2011 - 01:37 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Kill it with fire.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Saphra Deden wrote...

SJK93 wrote...

Wouldn't we all die being processed to become a Reaper to begin with?

Well... yeah, you will. Your genetic material will survive however.  That's better than the nothing that will survive if you refuse the Reapers' offer.

so the choices are die .... or .... die?

lol no thanks. I'd rather fight and.... WIN.

Modifié par xxSgt_Reed_24xx, 30 juillet 2011 - 12:58 .

[Someone With Mass]

DDG3595 wrote...

Anything that is made can be unmade.  The Reapers were made somehow somewhere; thus theyh can be unmade.

Yeah, yeah, cast it back into the fiery chasm from once it came, Cuthulhu fhtagn, whatever.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...
No, the choice is "die" or "die and have your genetic legacy survive".

What difference does it make when you're dead?

Also, I wouldn't be so happy about it if this:

is what it'd live on in.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

*waits for the lol reaper virus lol to take effect*

[marshalleck]

Someone With Mass wrote...

DDG3595 wrote...

Anything that is made can be unmade.  The Reapers were made somehow somewhere; thus theyh can be unmade.

Yeah, yeah, cast it back into the fiery chasm from once it came, Cuthulhu fhtagn, whatever.

Blasphemer. Cthulhu arises from the sunken city of R'lyeh where he lies dead but dreaming, not some fiery chasm.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

if nobody knows about the reapers is your genetic legacy truly living on?

And please no insults.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 30 juillet 2011 - 01:11 .

[joriandrake]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

What difference does it make when you're dead?

Well if you are so self-centered you can't look beyond your own personal well being then I suppose it makes no difference.

Greed/self-interest can be a bit of a problem for humanity under certain circumstances. That's why ultimately this choice will need to be made for you.

Be it kicking and screaming, humanity will be dragged out of the dark and into the light.

it doesn't matter if human genetic survives if it is twisted and formed at the whim of reapers, it would be like trying to resurrect the T-Rex from its genes, and the result would be a parrot headed turtle with tentacles

Modifié par joriandrake, 30 juillet 2011 - 01:14 .

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Well if you are so self-centered you can't look beyond your own personal well being then I suppose it makes no difference.

Greed/self-interest can be a bit of a problem for humanity under certain circumstances. That's why ultimately this choice will need to be made for you.

Be it kicking and screaming, humanity will be dragged out of the dark and into the light.

Then again, absolutely no-one will know about it if they all die.

There's nothing glorious about it.

It's better to burn out than fade away.