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We Can't Save Earth, We Can't Beat the Reapers


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#701
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Saphra Deden wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Once again, you resort to insults because you have been proven wrong.


No. I call you misiniformed because you are misinformed.


No...you resort to insults because he proved you wrong.

Obvious rage is considered...too primitive. I was genuinely interested in the thread..but then I read a few comments after people challenged your theory. But if it's just going to be "u suck" instead of facts and evidence, meh. No point in discussing it with you.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Once again, you resort to insults because you have been proven wrong.


No. I call you misiniformed because you are misinformed.


No, you said I "had no damned clue", which is quite different, and more insulting, than saying I am misinformed.

You have based your entire argument, on assumptions made from a few short codex entries.
We have made our arguments based on scientifically proven facts about how life exists, and how it evolves.

Your response was to call us stupid, dumb, idiots, and clueless.
When people raise the very valid question of "Why do you bother playing when its so hopeless", your reply is "Derp".

If you know so much, then you know ME3 and its alleged "OMG RETCONZ!" ending will just frustrate you completely, and make you rage even harder, so why do you bother? 

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Saphra Deden wrote...


Reapers contain massive drive cores of their own, and what fuels drive cores? Element zero, of-course.

So what will happen if we destroy hundreds of Reapers on or in orbit over the Earth? The same thing that happened on Eingana will happen on Earth. Refined element zero will poison the environment and wipe out much of the life there. The effect will likely be much worse on Earth because Reapers likely carry drive cores much larger than anything the races fighting over Eingana used, meaning a hell of a lot more eezo is going to rain down on the planet.

reaper cores arent huge you destroy one in me2 remember the mission to get the reaper iff at the end the small blue thing you destroy that is the reaper core, their efficient machines meaning their also energy efficient. element zero contamination is not a big problem because some reapers may be destroyed on earth but not all of them will.
http://www.google.ca...s:0&tx=62&ty=69

Modifié par Mr Powers94, 31 juillet 2011 - 04:56 .


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RobotWalk wrote...

I tell you how I'ma beat them Reapers.

I'ma blow one of them up. Get that eezo all smeared all over some animals. Spiders and junk like that.

Then I'ma get them animals to bite my squad and myself.

And then I'm gonna beat them Reapers with eezo-animal-superpowers.

I nearly hurt myself laughing.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

RobotWalk wrote...

I tell you how I'ma beat them Reapers.

I'ma blow one of them up. Get that eezo all smeared all over some animals. Spiders and junk like that.

Then I'ma get them animals to bite my squad and myself.

And then I'm gonna beat them Reapers with eezo-animal-superpowers.


I nearly hurt myself laughing.


My Shepard's gonna have him some sick eezo-lobster powers.

Gonna pinch him up some Reapers real good.  Pinch 'em up til they die.

It's a pretty ironclad plan, lemme tell you what.

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 SAVED???

:o:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O

Regarding the Reaper cores

Upon careful evaluation, I think we may be safe from a saturated atmosphere of ezo, dumped from a dead Reaper.

YES - when a ship is destroyed, its ezo core often explodes, spewing the element zero everywhere.

BUT - this is (as far as we can tell) only true for your conventional ship! 
Image IPB
Image IPB

Do you see??? The Normandy, one of the most advanced ships in the galaxy, has an open core containing element zero. Even the SR2's core is only (in retrospect) lightly armored! When the Normandy, or a cruiser, or a frigate is destroyed, of course they would expel vast amounts of ezo into surrounding space. destroying the ship would likely cause these cores + machinery containing them to shatter and explode.

BUT A REAPER?

Image IPB

Its drive core is HEAVILY protected by armor in ME2, and god knows what other protections they have when fully active. Maybe Sovereign did explode, but its not wholly unreasonable to assume that its drive core didn't, especially considering that many pieces of Sovereign were stolen from salvage teams at the end of ME1. 

Perhaps when even a fully powered Reaper is attacked lets its drive core, to minimize internal damage, automatically go into shielding mode. The core would be one of the surviving pieces of a Reaper corpse, albeit probably indoctrination-free :-)

Now, it may be that a dying Reaper automatically un-shields its drive core so that it WILL explode. But I kind of doubt that. An over exposure of ezo might interfere with other Reapers, and since the Reapers seem to only fight in groups 99% of the time (ignoring Nazara because she is the in-galaxy scout), it wouldn't exactly be beneficial to other Old Machines.

Saved?

B)B)B)B)B)B)

Modifié par 100k, 31 juillet 2011 - 05:13 .


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100k wrote...

 SAVED???

:o:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O

Regarding the Reaper cores

Upon careful evaluation, I think we may be safe from a saturated atmosphere of ezo, dumped from a dead Reaper.

YES - when a ship is destroyed, its ezo core often explodes, spewing the element zero everywhere.

BUT - this is (as far as we can tell) only true for your conventional ship! 
Image IPB
Image IPB

Do you see??? The Normandy, one of the most advanced ships in the galaxy, has an open core containing element zero. Even the SR2's core is only (in retrospect) lightly armored! When the Normandy, or a cruiser, or a frigate is destroyed, of course they would expel vast amounts of ezo into surrounding space. destroying the ship would likely cause these cores + machinery containing them to shatter and explode.

BUT A REAPER?

Image IPB

Its drive core is HEAVILY protected by armor in ME2, and god knows what other protections they have when fully active. Maybe Sovereign did explode, but its not wholly unreasonable to assume that its drive core didn't, especially considering that many pieces of Sovereign were stolen from salvage teams at the end of ME1. 

Perhaps when even a fully powered Reaper is attacked lets its drive core, to minimize internal damage, automatically goes into shielding mode. The core would be one of the surviving pieces of a Reaper corpse, albeit probably indoctrination-free :-)

Now, it may be that a dying Reaper automatically un-shields its drive core so that it WILL explode. But I kind of doubt that. An over exposure of ezo might interfere with other Reapers, and since the Reapers seem to only fight in groups 99% of the time (ignoring Nazara because she is the in-galaxy scout), it wouldn't exactly be beneficial to other Old Machines.

Saved?

B)B)B)B)B)B)

great post

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 AND -

Posted while half drunk. Tequila + orange juice. Hell yeah.

B)B)B)B)

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Maybe we can't win but we're going to try anyways.

Humans are funny like that!

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lol (100k post)

Modifié par Mr Powers94, 31 juillet 2011 - 05:12 .


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RobotWalk wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

RobotWalk wrote...

I tell you how I'ma beat them Reapers.

I'ma blow one of them up. Get that eezo all smeared all over some animals. Spiders and junk like that.

Then I'ma get them animals to bite my squad and myself.

And then I'm gonna beat them Reapers with eezo-animal-superpowers.


I nearly hurt myself laughing.


My Shepard's gonna have him some sick eezo-lobster powers.

Gonna pinch him up some Reapers real good.  Pinch 'em up til they die.

It's a pretty ironclad plan, lemme tell you what.


I think a parrot or budgie would be your best bet. Tear the Reapers shell apart with your claws, and then you can sharpen your beak on its backbone.

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100k wrote...

 AND -

Posted while half drunk. Tequila + orange juice. Hell yeah.

B)B)B)B)


Jim Beam Black and Dr. Pepper.  Just what the doctor ordered!

=]

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100k wrote...

 SAVED???

:o:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O

Regarding the Reaper cores

Upon careful evaluation, I think we may be safe from a saturated atmosphere of ezo, dumped from a dead Reaper.

YES - when a ship is destroyed, its ezo core often explodes, spewing the element zero everywhere.

BUT - this is (as far as we can tell) only true for your conventional ship! 
Image IPB
Image IPB

Do you see??? The Normandy, one of the most advanced ships in the galaxy, has an open core containing element zero. Even the SR2's core is only (in retrospect) lightly armored! When the Normandy, or a cruiser, or a frigate is destroyed, of course they would expel vast amounts of ezo into surrounding space. destroying the ship would likely cause these cores + machinery containing them to shatter and explode.

BUT A REAPER?

Image IPB

Its drive core is HEAVILY protected by armor in ME2, and god knows what other protections they have when fully active. Maybe Sovereign did explode, but its not wholly unreasonable to assume that its drive core didn't, especially considering that many pieces of Sovereign were stolen from salvage teams at the end of ME1. 

Perhaps when even a fully powered Reaper is attacked lets its drive core, to minimize internal damage, automatically goes into shielding mode. The core would be one of the surviving pieces of a Reaper corpse, albeit probably indoctrination-free :-)

Now, it may be that a dying Reaper automatically un-shields its drive core so that it WILL explode. But I kind of doubt that. An over exposure of ezo might interfere with other Reapers, and since the Reapers seem to only fight in groups 99% of the time (ignoring Nazara because she is the in-galaxy scout), it wouldn't exactly be beneficial to other Old Machines.

Saved?

B)B)B)B)B)B)


This puts a big dent in my plan to use Reaper deaths to my advantage and infect my squad with eezo-animal super powers.

Guess I'm cracking open one of them eezo-boxes just laying around and doing it that way.

Gonna pour the eezo on a bear and let it bite Liara.  Give her some sick grizzly powers.

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Yakko77 wrote...
Maybe we can't win but we're going to try anyways.

Humans are funny like that!


This quote from Babylon 5 sums it up best.

Londo Mollari said...
The War. The humans, I think, knew they were doomed. Where another race would surrender to despair, the humans fought back with greater strength. They made the Minbari fight for every inch of space. In my life, I have never seen anything like it; They would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones, and then throw themselves without fear or hesitation at the very face of death itself, never surrendering. No one who saw them fighting against the inevitable could help but be moved to tears by their courage. Their stubborn nobility. When they ran out of ships, they used guns, when they ran out guns they used knives and sticks and bare hands. They were magnificent. I only hope that when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes in the end. They did this for two years they never ran out of courage but in the end, they ran out of time.



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Bogsnot1 wrote...

RobotWalk wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

RobotWalk wrote...

I tell you how I'ma beat them Reapers.

I'ma blow one of them up. Get that eezo all smeared all over some animals. Spiders and junk like that.

Then I'ma get them animals to bite my squad and myself.

And then I'm gonna beat them Reapers with eezo-animal-superpowers.


I nearly hurt myself laughing.


My Shepard's gonna have him some sick eezo-lobster powers.

Gonna pinch him up some Reapers real good.  Pinch 'em up til they die.

It's a pretty ironclad plan, lemme tell you what.


I think a parrot or budgie would be your best bet. Tear the Reapers shell apart with your claws, and then you can sharpen your beak on its backbone.


Gonna give Garrus some sweet burrowing owl powers, actually.  He's gonna dig him a deep burrow, then come out and glare at the Reapers, real angry like.

The Reapers theys just gonna crumble.

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Yakko77 wrote...

100k wrote...

 AND -

Posted while half drunk. Tequila + orange juice. Hell yeah.

B)B)B)B)


Jim Beam Black and Dr. Pepper.  Just what the doctor ordered!

=]


A TOAST!!! To great minds!

 :wizard::wizard::wizard:

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100k wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

100k wrote...

 AND -

Posted while half drunk. Tequila + orange juice. Hell yeah.

B)B)B)B)


Jim Beam Black and Dr. Pepper.  Just what the doctor ordered!

=]


A TOAST!!! To great minds!

 :wizard::wizard::wizard:


Cheers!!!

*glug*

:wizard:

Modifié par Yakko77, 31 juillet 2011 - 05:19 .


#718
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Bogsnot1 wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...
Maybe we can't win but we're going to try anyways.

Humans are funny like that!


This quote from Babylon 5 sums it up best.

Londo Mollari said...
The War. The humans, I think, knew they were doomed. Where another race would surrender to despair, the humans fought back with greater strength. They made the Minbari fight for every inch of space. In my life, I have never seen anything like it; They would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones, and then throw themselves without fear or hesitation at the very face of death itself, never surrendering. No one who saw them fighting against the inevitable could help but be moved to tears by their courage. Their stubborn nobility. When they ran out of ships, they used guns, when they ran out guns they used knives and sticks and bare hands. They were magnificent. I only hope that when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes in the end. They did this for two years they never ran out of courage but in the end, they ran out of time.



Awesome!  I loved B5.  So sad to see it go to crap that last season and all those spin-offs.

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:whistle:"Why can't we be friends,why can't we be friends..."

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Hey 100, notice how my last post ( on the last page) and your last post have gone completely ignored?

Win.

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RobotWalk wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

RobotWalk wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

RobotWalk wrote...

I tell you how I'ma beat them Reapers.

I'ma blow one of them up. Get that eezo all smeared all over some animals. Spiders and junk like that.

Then I'ma get them animals to bite my squad and myself.

And then I'm gonna beat them Reapers with eezo-animal-superpowers.


I nearly hurt myself laughing.


My Shepard's gonna have him some sick eezo-lobster powers.

Gonna pinch him up some Reapers real good.  Pinch 'em up til they die.

It's a pretty ironclad plan, lemme tell you what.


I think a parrot or budgie would be your best bet. Tear the Reapers shell apart with your claws, and then you can sharpen your beak on its backbone.


Gonna give Garrus some sweet burrowing owl powers, actually.  He's gonna dig him a deep burrow, then come out and glare at the Reapers, real angry like.

The Reapers theys just gonna crumble.


Aww man!  The battle for Earth is going to be just EPIC!  March SOOOO can't come soon enough!

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Sisterofshane wrote...

Hey 100, notice how my last post ( on the last page) and your last post have gone completely ignored?

Win.

We have been in diplomatic talks.B)

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Sisterofshane wrote...

Hey 100, notice how my last post ( on the last page) and your last post have gone completely ignored?

Win.


OP is indoctrinated. Don't take it personally, buddy.
:):):)
My original quote, which also brought up a good point, went completely unnoticed as well. 

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Bogsnot1 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Once again, you resort to insults because you have been proven wrong.


No. I call you misiniformed because you are misinformed.


No, you said I "had no damned clue", which is quite different, and more insulting, than saying I am misinformed.

You have based your entire argument, on assumptions made from a few short codex entries.
We have made our arguments based on scientifically proven facts about how life exists, and how it evolves.

Your response was to call us stupid, dumb, idiots, and clueless.
When people raise the very valid question of "Why do you bother playing when its so hopeless", your reply is "Derp".

If you know so much, then you know ME3 and its alleged "OMG RETCONZ!" ending will just frustrate you completely, and make you rage even harder, so why do you bother? 


It's because Saphra loves the drama!  She doesn't really believe the game is un-winnable.  She just wants us to dance to her music!
And i'm ready with my two-step, baby!  BRING IT!

#725
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Sisterofshane wrote...

Hey 100, notice how my last post ( on the last page) and your last post have gone completely ignored?

Win.


Man I'm sorry, I was busy coming up with IRREFUTABLE PLANS for why we actually CAN beat the Reapers.