100k wrote...
Sisterofshane wrote...
Hey 100, notice how my last post ( on the last page) and your last post have gone completely ignored?
Win.
OP is indoctrinated. Don't take it personally, buddy.:)
My original quote, which also brought up a good point, went completely unnoticed as well.
RobotWalk wrote...
Sisterofshane wrote...
Hey 100, notice how my last post ( on the last page) and your last post have gone completely ignored?
Win.
Man I'm sorry, I was busy coming up with IRREFUTABLE PLANS for why we actually CAN beat the Reapers.
Remember how I said earlier I was ready with my two-step?Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
I still like my idea.
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
I still like my idea.
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
I still like my idea.
Modifié par Bogsnot1, 31 juillet 2011 - 05:40 .
The original saidBogsnot1 wrote...
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
I still like my idea.*snip*
I thought Shep was just teaching Mordin and Samara how to shake their tail feather?
Fata Morgana wrote...
Hey Saphra, I just wanted to say that I find your post fascinating, even though I disagree.
Specifically, I think that extinction is better than becoming a reaper. Yeah, that means that everyone I love dies, too, but all I have to do is look at the plight of a husk and say, "Do I want my mother to become something like that?" to know that death is preferable.
100k wrote...
@ Sisterofshane, well I guess we should have a toast to a plausible victory, then :-D
Oh, and reposted to effectively end the OPs argument.
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You can still fight it!
Yes, you bring up some excellent points. But ME1 and ME2 involved two key crippling strikes against the Reapers: preemptive planning is now almost completely out of the question.
In Mass Effect, Shepard managed to destroy two very powerful advantages that the Reapers had: Sovereign, their in-galaxy scout, and the Citadel (which Shepard gained control of), which gave the Reapers the ability to control the relays, along with uploading practically every bit of data on every species, world, and system.
In Mass Effect 2, Shepard managed to take out the Collectors, the Reaper's last eye into the galaxy they were planning to invade.
Their three biggest scout teams are gone! They don't have the Citadel to gather information on world locations, or control relays! They don't have Nazara to help them unite the geth! They don't have the Collectors to give them a run down on what makes a species tick!
If the Reapers are modern soldiers, then the rest of the galaxy are cave men wielding bows, spears, and poison darts. But the Reapers are entering our jungle! Despite the fact that the Old Machines have entered this forest many times, the long years in between have caused the brush and vegetation to overgrow their well known paths.
There is always hope."
Sisterofshane wrote...
Don't give up hope! There is still a chance!
Modifié par RobotWalk, 31 juillet 2011 - 05:51 .
Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 31 juillet 2011 - 05:54 .
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
100k wrote...
Its drive core is HEAVILY protected by armor in ME2, and god knows what other protections they have when fully active.
pablodurando wrote...
Fata Morgana wrote...
Hey Saphra, I just wanted to say that I find your post fascinating, even though I disagree.
Specifically, I think that extinction is better than becoming a reaper. Yeah, that means that everyone I love dies, too, but all I have to do is look at the plight of a husk and say, "Do I want my mother to become something like that?" to know that death is preferable.
Becoming a reaper is not the same as becoming a husk. A reaper contains the essence of a species, at least that's what we have gotten from me2. I would be very interested in seeing humanity become a Reaper just because the race has become immortalized and become just short of a god. I think it'd be very interesting for a human reaper to exist. Salvation through destruction and ascension to perfection(near).
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
"My brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart
of me! A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our
friends and break all bonds of fellowship. But it is not this day. An
hour of woes and shattered shields when the age of Men comes crashing
down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold
dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand!"
Saphra Deden wrote...
100k wrote...
Its drive core is HEAVILY protected by armor in ME2, and god knows what other protections they have when fully active.
...and when a Reaper is violently blown apart?
Considering we were able to disable that core on foot I'm not putting a lot of faith into that armor. It has a very large hole in it that opens up periodically. If the Reaper is being destroyed anything can happen. Power surges and the like which could force it open. A strike could even penetrate the hull and hit the core itself.
Another thing to remember (that I've pointed out dozens of times) is that it won't just be Reapers getting destroyed. Lots and lots of friendly ships are going to bite the dust as well. Their cores, as you pointed out, aren't as well shielded.
Modifié par 100k, 31 juillet 2011 - 05:58 .
Bogsnot1 wrote...
@robotwalk: So which team member will get worm powers, so they can infect the Reapers and be a constant distraction by giving them an itchy bum?
Modifié par RobotWalk, 31 juillet 2011 - 06:00 .
Sisterofshane wrote...
pablodurando wrote...
Fata Morgana wrote...
Hey Saphra, I just wanted to say that I find your post fascinating, even though I disagree.
Specifically, I think that extinction is better than becoming a reaper. Yeah, that means that everyone I love dies, too, but all I have to do is look at the plight of a husk and say, "Do I want my mother to become something like that?" to know that death is preferable.
Becoming a reaper is not the same as becoming a husk. A reaper contains the essence of a species, at least that's what we have gotten from me2. I would be very interested in seeing humanity become a Reaper just because the race has become immortalized and become just short of a god. I think it'd be very interesting for a human reaper to exist. Salvation through destruction and ascension to perfection(near).
Nope. Totally disagree. We would be reaching an impasse upon our evolutionary curve.
Legion even says it in game -- allowing someone else to determine your path for you only limits your opportunities. And he was an AI, closer to being a Reaper then you or I could ever dare (or dread) to imagine.
Who's to say that we couldn't achieve something greater as a species? Or that become a Reaper might ultimately lead us down the path to our complete destruction? ( Individual Reapers have been destroyed before).
So, becoming a Reaper means Game Over. Where's the fun in that?
pablodurando wrote...
You're right and I think your point will ring true after the series. I just thought it'd be an interesting experience for humanity to be captured in a Reaper.
Saphra Deden wrote...
100k wrote...
Its drive core is HEAVILY protected by armor in ME2, and god knows what other protections they have when fully active.
...and when a Reaper is violently blown apart?
Considering we were able to disable that core on foot I'm not putting a lot of faith into that armor. It has a very large hole in it that opens up periodically. If the Reaper is being destroyed anything can happen. Power surges and the like which could force it open. A strike could even penetrate the hull and hit the core itself.
Another thing to remember (that I've pointed out dozens of times) is that it won't just be Reapers getting destroyed. Lots and lots of friendly ships are going to bite the dust as well. Their cores, as you pointed out, aren't as well shielded.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
100k wrote...
Considering that a CAIN isn't able to shoot through the covered Reaper core
100k wrote...
Yes, but we are in control THESE ships. Alliance vessels, quarian ships, geth and turian dreadnoughts, they should all be fighting for us at the end. If they can lure the Reapers into space, then eezo might not spill over our planet.
Bogsnot1 wrote...
pablodurando wrote...
You're right and I think your point will ring true after the series. I just thought it'd be an interesting experience for humanity to be captured in a Reaper.
Go and get a frog. Put it in a blender. Drink it. Now ask the frog what it thinks of the experience.
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