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[Fata Morgana]

pablodurando wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

Hey Saphra, I just wanted to say that I find your post fascinating, even though I disagree.

Specifically, I think that extinction is better than becoming a reaper. Yeah, that means that everyone I love dies, too, but all I have to do is look at the plight of a husk and say, "Do I want my mother to become something like that?" to know that death is preferable.

Becoming a reaper is not the same as becoming a husk.  A reaper contains the essence of a species, at least that's what we have gotten from me2.  I would be very interested in seeing humanity become a Reaper just because the race has become immortalized and become just short of a god.  I think it'd be very interesting for a human reaper to exist.  Salvation through destruction and ascension to perfection(near).

Notice that 3 husks melded together is a Scion?  And 30 husks melded together is a Praetorian?

Husks are not reapers, but they do appear to be based on the same kind of "organic fusion" technology.  Sure the reapers tell us that if we just submit to becoming organic paste then we'lll be like a god.  That doesn't mean that they're right. For all we know, they think that the fate of becoming part of a praetorian is pretty cool for organics, too. 

[Praetor Knight]

RobotWalk wrote...

Incidentally, Zaeed is going to have frog powers that'll help him swim in a lake and snipe Reapers with a newly-awakened Jessie.

Thanks to the collaborative effort of Mordin, Jacob, Miranda and a favor from Powell.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Why is everyone assuming you could even hit the core? I went into that Reaper too,it was freakin' huge.

[pablodurando]

Fata Morgana wrote...

pablodurando wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

Hey Saphra, I just wanted to say that I find your post fascinating, even though I disagree.

Specifically, I think that extinction is better than becoming a reaper. Yeah, that means that everyone I love dies, too, but all I have to do is look at the plight of a husk and say, "Do I want my mother to become something like that?" to know that death is preferable.

Becoming a reaper is not the same as becoming a husk.  A reaper contains the essence of a species, at least that's what we have gotten from me2.  I would be very interested in seeing humanity become a Reaper just because the race has become immortalized and become just short of a god.  I think it'd be very interesting for a human reaper to exist.  Salvation through destruction and ascension to perfection(near).

Notice that 3 husks melded together is a Scion?  And 30 husks melded together is a Praetorian?

Husks are not reapers, but they do appear to be based on the same kind of "organic fusion" technology.  Sure the reapers tell us that if we just submit to becoming organic paste then we'lll be like a god.  That doesn't mean that they're right. For all we know, they think that the fate of becoming part of a praetorian is pretty cool for organics, too. 

Have you seen the praetorians, tell me you wouldn't want to be part of one of those.

[Praetor Knight]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Why is everyone assuming you could even hit the core? I went into that Reaper too,it was freakin' huge.

Did you try the Cain?

Or do you mean the path to get to that room?

[Bogsnot1]

RobotWalk wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

pablodurando wrote...
You're right and I think your point will ring true after the series.  I just thought it'd be an interesting experience for humanity to be captured in a Reaper.

Go and get a frog. Put it in a blender. Drink it. Now ask the frog what it thinks of the experience. 

Incidentally, Zaeed is going to have frog powers that'll help him swim in a lake and snipe Reapers with a newly-awakened Jessie.

I suppose it its too obvious to give the frog powers to either Thane or Mordin.
I do vote that Jacob gets hedgehog powers, on account of him being a ****** to everyone that you recruit.
We could give Kelly Black Widow powers. Then she can sleep with the Reapers, and bite their heads off while they are basking in the afterglow.

[Sisterofshane]

Saphra Deden wrote...

100k wrote...

Considering that a CAIN isn't able to shoot through the covered Reaper core

You know what else it can't shoot through? Any wall you encounter in the game.

Gameplay/story segregation.

A mass accelerator shot from a star ship or thanix cannon blast would be a hell of a lot more powerful. The CAIN isn't going to take out the Collector ship.

But the argument is not that it would take out the collectors, but the armor surrounding the mass effect core of a Reaper.
Which is exactly something a "mass accelerator round of considerable speed" ( to quote the wiki masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Derelict_Reaper ) failed to do.
So just how do you expect any of our weapons to do damage to the Reapers mass effect core?

Saphra Deden wrote...

100k wrote...

Yes, but we are in control THESE ships. Alliance vessels, quarian ships, geth and turian dreadnoughts, they should all be fighting for us at the end. If they can lure the Reapers into space, then eezo might not spill over our planet.

Oh but it will. Too many will be destroyed for you to ever be able to hope to salvage them all before they come crashing down onto the planet.

Bulldozer. Sand. Hand-shovel.

I'm pretty sure that humans stopped using hand-shovels as a primary tool once FTL drives were invented.


But at least you didn't say "Cancers, birth defects, waves of extinction"!

[BrotherCorvid]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

RobotWalk wrote...

Bogsnot1 wrote...

pablodurando wrote...
You're right and I think your point will ring true after the series.  I just thought it'd be an interesting experience for humanity to be captured in a Reaper.

Go and get a frog. Put it in a blender. Drink it. Now ask the frog what it thinks of the experience. 

Incidentally, Zaeed is going to have frog powers that'll help him swim in a lake and snipe Reapers with a newly-awakened Jessie.

I suppose it its too obvious to give the frog powers to either Thane or Mordin.
I do vote that Jacob gets hedgehog powers, on account of him being a ****** to everyone that you recruit.
We could give Kelly Black Widow powers. Then she can sleep with the Reapers, and bite their heads off while they are basking in the afterglow.

I concur on Kelly, but I think I'm gonna say that Jacob gets the hedgehog power because it's unpredictable.  Sure, he's a prickly dude, but he can be so smooth when stroked the right way. 

[100k]

Saphra Deden wrote...

100k wrote...

Considering that a CAIN isn't able to shoot through the covered Reaper core

You know what else it can't shoot through? Any wall you encounter in the game.

Gameplay/story segregation.

Not exactly. A CAIN can leave HEAVY scarring on walls, floor, and pillars in game. However, similar to most games, these visual effects go away after a few minutes, similar to the standard gaming "corpse disappearance" cliche in most games. Thus I can assume that the CAIN, while unable to crush a wall into dust, is able to at least melt a large chunk of wall. 

But some Reaper relics (like Rho) are indestructible, at least to modern weapons/tools. The Reaper core seems to be made of the same stuff.

A mass accelerator shot from a star ship or thanix cannon blast would be a hell of a lot more powerful. The CAIN isn't going to take out the Collector ship.

The Collector vessel seemed to be made out of rock, or some kind of spungie material. It is clearly not made of the same sleek and tight material that a Reaper is constructed of.

Now, one could argue that a Thanix cannon should still be able to punch through the Reaper core's armor. Fine. But how? Are you going to bring a portable Thanix cannon into a Reaper, fighting off husks and indoctrination (and probably internal organ - style defenses)? When Sovereign died, we don't know if it was hit directly in the Reaper drive core. But most of the time, ships don't have the luxury of that kind of precision. My guess is that when a Reaper is blown up in combat, it is because (like the Battle of the Citadel) it is pummeled by gunfire until it finally breaks. If this is the case, than not only would the core have a chance to shield itself from the blasts, but it wouldn't get the core force of the explosion.

100k wrote...

Yes, but we are in control THESE ships. Alliance vessels, quarian ships, geth and turian dreadnoughts, they should all be fighting for us at the end. If they can lure the Reapers into space, then eezo might not spill over our planet.

Oh but it will. Too many will be destroyed for you to ever be able to hope to salvage them all before they come crashing down onto the planet.

Bulldozer. Sand. Hand-shovel.

If we beat the Reapers, wouldn't it be logical for us to do what every great civilization does after a war: clean up?

Modifié par 100k, 31 juillet 2011 - 06:31 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Why is everyone assuming you could even hit the core? I went into that Reaper too,it was freakin' huge.

Did you try the Cain?

Or do you mean the path to get to that room?

Yeah I meant the reaper,sorry.

[Yakko77]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Why is everyone assuming you could even hit the core? I went into that Reaper too,it was freakin' huge.

Did you try the Cain?

Or do you mean the path to get to that room?

Yeah I meant the reaper,sorry.

Cain is awesome on the Core itself.  Arc Projector on the waves of husks is handy.  Whichever is your preference.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Yakko77 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Why is everyone assuming you could even hit the core? I went into that Reaper too,it was freakin' huge.

Did you try the Cain?

Or do you mean the path to get to that room?

Yeah I meant the reaper,sorry.

Cain is awesome on the Core itself.  Arc Projector on the waves of husks is handy.  Whichever is your preference.

Eh avalanche is good on husks,though a nutshot from the phalanx usually does the trick.I usually use the viper on the core.(when im not an infilitator)

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 31 juillet 2011 - 06:33 .

[BrotherCorvid]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Why is everyone assuming you could even hit the core? I went into that Reaper too,it was freakin' huge.

Did you try the Cain?

Or do you mean the path to get to that room?

Yeah I meant the reaper,sorry.

Cain is awesome on the Core itself.  Arc Projector on the waves of husks is handy.  Whichever is your preference.

Eh avalanche is good on husks,though a nutshot from the phalanx usually does the trick.I usually use the viper on the core.(when im not an infilitator)

You know what's good on husks?

Snake powers.  Which Miranda will have when I dump a bunch of eezo snakes on her.

Trust me-- you won't need a Cain or Avalanche or Arc Projector or Incinerate or anything by the time I get the Super-Eezo-Friends up and running.

[Bogsnot1]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...


But the argument is not that it would take out the collectors, but the armor surrounding the mass effect core of a Reaper.
Which is exactly something a "mass accelerator round of considerable speed" ( to quote the wiki masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Derelict_Reaper ) failed to do.
So just how do you expect any of our weapons to do damage to the Reapers mass effect core?

What makes you think that round hit anywhere near the core?

So you are agreeing that you can render a Reaper inoperable, without blowing up its core and sending horrible nasty and yucky eezo everywhere?
So, by the same token, the Reapers can disable and knock out our ships, again, without damaging the core in any way.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

RobotWalk wrote...

You know what's good on husks?

Snake powers.  Which Miranda will have when I dump a bunch of eezo snakes on her.

Trust me-- you won't need a Cain or Avalanche or Arc Projector or Incinerate or anything by the time I get the Super-Eezo-Friends up and running.

Oh yeah Power Rangers :Eezo

[Sisterofshane]

Saphra Deden wrote...

100k wrote...

Yes,
but we are in control THESE ships. Alliance vessels, quarian ships,
geth and turian dreadnoughts, they should all be fighting for us at the
end. If they can lure the Reapers into space, then eezo might not spill
over our planet.

Oh but it will. Too many will be
destroyed for you to ever be able to hope to salvage them all before
they come crashing down onto the planet.

Bulldozer. Sand. Hand-shovel.

Also, Saphra, if we can imagine for a moment (you do have an imagination, don't you?) that armor will prevent any eezo from the Reapers contaminating our planet, the entire Alliance Navy ( only around 200 ships) would have to be destroyed within our atmosphere or pretty darn close to our atmophere ( so the gravity well could pull any space debris back down to Earth)  for it to be close to reaching the numbers that "poisoned" Eingana.  Again, most of our colonies would be safe , and even if the Alliance fleet was sacrificied and our home planet was poisoned, it would be for the continuation of our species!
So why should we submit to the Reapers?

[Praetor Knight]

I was trying to find a clip on the Federation's new secret weapon... the Shovel.



But I thought this little number would be better for morale, ''it's a good day to die"...

[Sisterofshane]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...


But the argument is not that it would take out the collectors, but the armor surrounding the mass effect core of a Reaper.
Which is exactly something a "mass accelerator round of considerable speed" ( to quote the wiki masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Derelict_Reaper ) failed to do.
So just how do you expect any of our weapons to do damage to the Reapers mass effect core?

What makes you think that round hit anywhere near the core?

Again, proving our theory, that it is possible for a Reaper to be disabled without obliterating it's core and sending Eezo flying everywhere.
You're really making this easy.

[Praetor Knight]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Eh avalanche is good on husks,though a nutshot from the phalanx usually does the trick.I usually use the viper on the core.(when im not an infilitator)

Squad Cryo ammo is awesome on husks. Better with Mattocks, Eviscerators and sorta with Geth Plasma Shotguns.

Edit: Actually, any Shotgun will do.

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 31 juillet 2011 - 06:45 .

[BrotherCorvid]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

RobotWalk wrote...

You know what's good on husks?

Snake powers.  Which Miranda will have when I dump a bunch of eezo snakes on her.

Trust me-- you won't need a Cain or Avalanche or Arc Projector or Incinerate or anything by the time I get the Super-Eezo-Friends up and running.

Oh yeah Power Rangers :Eezo

Eezo- Eezo- Eezo-- EezoGuys-- HOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

lol saprha is flowing like water,you can't argue something that constantly changes.